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Stage Work
Keira's stage work is listed here as being "local amateur productions," but this source claims that Keira's After Juliet as at the Young Vic, which is a well-respected and not amateur theatre. Elbeonore 00:35, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- After Juliet was comissioned for NT Connections, a youth theatre festival. Youth groups put on one of the plays and then a regional heat is held (the base for London children is the Young Vic), then the final is held at the National Theatre itself. It was an amateur production. I'm not sure AF has ever been performed professionally - three plays from the 2005 Connections cycle were, and two of those will be revived this year though.Amo 00:46, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Skandar Keynes
Who is Skandar Keynes, why does the biography say she is married to him, and why can't it be edited out?
- Please, it is not funny to joke like this. Someone could have a heart attack. ;) —Viriditas | Talk 11:55, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Natalie not dubbed by Keira
Although Portman's voice while a "queen", was very deep and regal and slightly British, she's said in interviews that it was digitally altered from her own dialouge. Amo 12:51, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
- Having just seen the film for the first time, i think it's pretty obvious that Keira was in fact dubbed by Natalie. Amo 22:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Hey, this isn't a forum to discuss dubbing or not. We'd need a source for that info. BlackPearl14 03:17, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Age discrepancy
Five years ago, I recall that Keira Knightley was born in 1983. (A year younger than myself.) It is now widely publicized that she was born in 1985. (three years younger than me.) Fan websites carry both dates. cf. the old talkpage here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Keira_Knightley/Archive1#Self-contradictory indicating she was 11 in 1994, which would match my recollection. Can anyone think of a way to verify her age? --need to get a login
- there is a lot of discrepancy between reports. Her own statements have consistently supported the date most often referenced (26/03/85). The best thing i can think of, is that her leavers yearbook counts her as part of the class of 2001 (you leave school at 16 in the UK). Amo 16:58, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
- Not necessarily, not everyone quits after GCSEs. In fact, she stayed on to do A levels, but quit when offered a part in Dr Zhivago. Hazzjm 22:42, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
- Well, the one that's been on the net is a year 11 leavers book. Since she started her Alevels at a different institution to where she did GCSEs, i'd say it's likely her first school didn't even have a sixth form. and she's be unlikely featured in the AS yearbook, as she says she never completed her first year of AS. Amo 20:16, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- there's no ways she was only born in 85'. then she'd only be 17 or 18 in the first pirates movie. she definitely looks at least 20 and her voice doesn't sound like a 17/18 year old. - (havent got id yet)
She was 17 when she filmed POTC1. If you listen to the DVD commentaries they mention it, as well as that fact she finished her scenes a few days before her 18th, but that the crew thought it was her birthday and made her a cake. Amo 15:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- Problem is, that means she would have been 15 when she filmed the topless scene in [The Hole] - which wouldn't be possible under British Law.
She was 15. It was legal. Amo 20:16, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
According to the England & Wales birth index, Keira Christina Knightley was born in March/April 1985.[1] --Fallout boy 20:11, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
I went to school with the girl and can very much confirm she was borni in 1983 NOT 1985, it's common in TV / Film to lie about your age.
And fake the birth index? Iorek85 00:09, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Could you explain how it was legal for her topless scene at age 15? I thought the UK age of consent is 16? This: http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_21276829.shtml says she was 16 at the time... 212.1.157.72 13:12, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
- That link doesn't work for me. It was legal bacause it wasn't an erotic scene, and her parent's gave consent. Amo 18:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Keira was born on March 26, 1985. Flamingtorch372 18:00, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Latest Vogue magazine
There's some interesting information here if someone wants to add it: [2]. Incredible photos, too. :) —Viriditas | Talk 09:19, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Keira Knightley
I would like to add keirachristinaknightley.com for Keira Knightley as external link. It is allowed to have one fansite for Keira Knightley . John Der 04:01, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
The Best Time Of Our Lives
Is this movie actually varified yet? Cause there is no sign at all anywhere for this movie. FANSTAR 21:25, 2 July 2006 {CEST}
Hmmm
Does anyone think this [4] is worth noting in the article? It seems to be more of a "I'm not" thing than "I am", and we could have a lot of "I'm not"'s in the article, but still. Thoughts appreciated. Mad Jack 16:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- not really. A lot has been written about her figure in the past, and today in the wake of the POTC2 UK premiere. She's repeatedly said she's not ill. If she is, it's been going on since before she was famous, as she's always looked like that, even if that unflattering dress does happen to accentuate it. Amo 16:36, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- hmm... true... but if a lot has been written on her figure, maybe we should have something in there? I dunno, something along the lines of "Knightley has denied speculation that she is anorexic, citing that she...", etc. Just a line or something? Mad Jack 17:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Talking about her dyslexia, a friend's wife went to the same school as Keira/Kiera and said that she was not dyslexic and consistently produced good grades. Perhaps the dyslexia story is one that was created for publicity reasons? This should be checked out!
- Unfortunately this is a problem of supposed anorexia and not dyslexia but as the article is about Keira, and she herself has said that she is not anorexic, it is appropriate to believe her. BlackPearl14 03:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
We need a new picture
The most recent one was removed for copyright reasons. Can anyone find another? TheKillerAngel 17:39, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- Well, I dunno. Can we use a screenshot? The last one was removed because it was a screenshot. I can easily find a screenshot if we are allowed to use one. I'm sure there are good stills of Knightley from the new Pirates movie here.[5] Mad Jack 18:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- According to Wikipedia:Fair use, screenshots can only be used to illustrate a critical commentary on the movie/tv program. --Abu Badali 18:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- Great, I'm sure I can add a ton of critical commentary to the picture. Mad Jack 02:31, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- According to Wikipedia:Fair use, screenshots can only be used to illustrate a critical commentary on the movie/tv program. --Abu Badali 18:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Pirates of the Caribbean 3
It says she finished filming 2 and 3, but the cast actually took a break until August. Film 3 should be done filming in October. Not sure how to incoporate that into the page, so I will just let someone else do it. DJKingpin 09:16, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
"I before e" name change?
A revert has been made to this article [6] removing the sentence: Her name was originally spelled as Kiera, but she changed the spelling to 'ei' to make it easier for the public to spell. as it was unsourced. I've been trying to find a source for the information but have only come up with this one which contains the phrase: She was born Kiera Knightley on the 22nd of March, 1985, in Teddington, south-west London. Her name would become Keira as her Hollywood career took off, the change shamelessly breaking the golden rule of "I before E except after C" but making the name more easily pronounceable on a worldwide basis. I've looked further but have only found 2 other websites who make the claim. What's important to note is that all of them appear to be verbatim copies of the same single website. Does anyone know of a quote from Keira in an interview or the like where she has verified this? Is this supposed name change official? Yay unto the Chicken 14:28, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- I just checked IMDB and it says nothing of the name change. It says she was born Keira not Kiera. DJKingpin 06:39, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- That means she probably was born "Kiera" :) Remember this important life lesson - if IMDB says something, the opposite is likely true. Seriously though (well, I was serious, in a sense, do not trust the IMDB), I think the IMDB started the "Kiera" thing. I am 99% sure that was listed as her birth name over the IMDB for the longest time, before someone alerted them that they are, once again, wrong Mad Jack 06:46, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- You just contradicted yourself. You say they are always wrong, so it must be Kiera. Then you say it used to say Kiera, but they found out that they were wrong, so it must be Keira. -DJKingpin 10:02, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
That quote is from a fan bio (i think written by the guy who runs Keiraweb) that used to be on IMDb too. But recently, he's had contact with her agency, so i always assumed this was taken down because he was informed that this wasn't true. I reckon it was a simple clerical error in the "Oliver Twist" credits. Amo 09:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
I've just looked at the Birth registers at Ancestry.co.uk, and she was registered Keira. See this link. --Berks105 10:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't contradict myself. I said they are usually very wrong, and they were the ones that started the "Kiera" story, which, of course, is wrong. :) Thanks for looking up the Ancestry records. I was sure that "Kiera" was just another IMDB wrong-o. Mad Jack 16:26, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Barefooter?
Personally i wouldn't call Keira a barefooter. there is one set of pictures of her walking barefoot, i think taken near her home. She's never spoken out about any philosophy she might hold behind this. However, if we're going to keep the category, then i think it's a good excuse to head over to barefoot and edit what is a pretty incomplete and POV article. Amo 13:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- Don't worry, I've nominated it for deletion. This is a very pointless category Mad Jack 16:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Deleting it from this article? or deleting the barefoot article itself?! Amo 15:31, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- The category itself, of course! I always go straight to the source with these things Mad Jack 17:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Did you really delete the category?! that's not what i was suggesting, you know. it is a way of life for a lot of ppl. It's not something i agree with personally, and when i read the article, it had obvously been written by a complete flake, but i'm retty sure it deserves to be there. Amo 18:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
- I appreciate that it's a way of life, but the people included in the category were not really people who were actual "barefooters", just mostly people who, say, went barefoot at a concert they performed once. Anyway, I nominated it for deletion and last time I checked it was all "Delete"s. I gotta say that I didn't stick around and see, but I presume it was deleted. Mad Jack 01:17, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Career milestone
I think that Bend It Like Beckham should be added as one of Keira's career milestones. I understand that this was her first starring role in a major film, and that afterward she began to get noticed. What do you think? --Canadian Joeldude 01:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- Go for it. Mad Jack 04:16, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, i agree that it's milestone, but it's only a starring role depending on your view. she was playing the "best freind" role. Personally i think milestones are Episode1, The Hole, BILB, POTC, P&P. I don't think DMC is a particular milestone for her. her role and performance are both unremarkable, she's just been blitzed with publicity for the "anorexia" comments, and once again being the onyl girl on the promotional circuit. Amo 09:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- I agree with you on DMC not being included. I'm going to remove it until the possible event that it could turn into a career milestone. --Canadian Joeldude 20:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- Well, it does have the highest grossing opening weekend ever. :) Mad Jack 20:48, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I know about the figures, and that would seem to suggest it's a milestone, but as i said it's not really a "keira knightley" film. I guess IMO it's more of a "Keira was in the highest grossing film..." factoid, rather than a "this achieved x for her in her career" moment. Either way, i don't disagree with it staying - i can see the logic. Amo 22:27, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I suppose on this one we'll just have to wait and see. It is hard to tell now what the effect of Dead Man's Chest is on her career, as it only opened recently. Perhaps in the future we can count the whole POTC series as a career milestone, or not. I'm content to let this lie for now. --Canadian Joeldude 07:17, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to be bold and remove DMC from the list....other than it having the highest-grossing 1st weekend, it's not really a career milestone. The first POTC really made her a household name, and Pride and Prejudice got her an Oscar nom....DMC wasn't really that remarkable for her career, it's just continuing a trend. But, I could be wrong. GrahameS 17:55, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- Excellent work, i had just plucked up the courage to do thatmyself. You've saved me a job. Amo 19:35, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Problem with Image:Yxa.blod.Keira.Knightley.JPG
Again, someone is claiming there is a problem with the copyright for Image:Yxa.blod.Keira.Knightley.JPG. If someone wants to save this image feel free to help me. Bronks 12:27, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Career/Personal Life
I've moved some stuff (magazine covers, fashion, etc) from the career section to the personal life section, I think it helps the focus of the article better. Comments? GrahameS 19:59, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Kabbalah
I removed this reference to her joining Kabbalah.
Contact Music isn't known for journalistic integrity, and I couldn't find any other verifiable sources. Also wearing a red string isn't exactly a public declaration that you're in Kabbalah. If there's better evidence it could be readded. GrahameS 19:59, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Anorexia
She denies being anorexic by claiming that her family has a history of anorexia (how this helps her claim, I have no idea), but what else could cause someone so young to be so devoid of any fat and muscle? Looking at photos of her from a month ago, I think she needs to be forcefed. [8] Dionyseus 06:55, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
- No, she denies being anorexic by denying that she’s anorexic: “I can safely say that I'm not.” And, lest people question her qualification to make that claim, she proceeds to mention that she is familiar with the disease through family and friends. Thanks for replacing the broken Yahoo link. --Rob Kennedy 07:54, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
If you have seen the Pirates movies than you should have seen a significant difference in her weight. All of a sudden, she has no body and her face looks like it keeps getting smaller. I think this would prove she DOES have anorexia. And plus, she said it runs in her family so why shouldn't it be true for her too.MissOrange12 21:10, 24 May 2007 (UTC)MissOrange12
- I honestly believe she's a naturally small girl. I've been asked a lot if I was anorexic, because I'm five foot and weight nothing at all. But that's because I am tiny. I fluctuate between weights, but she strikes me as a smart girl and if she was anorexic, would seek treatment. Otherwise, people are fishing for reasons to discredit her. And as for it running in her family, she's indicating that her family knows the symptoms, as does she, and can keep an eye out for it. Losing weight does not prove anorexia. It simply proves someone is losing weight. The only people capable to suspecting, diagnosing and treating anorexia are health care professionals. Not arm chair psychologists on Wikipedia. Vaguely 15:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
- I completely agree. She must say herself that "I am anorexic" or some other firm, verifiable source. I'm so big on that source thing :) BlackPearl14 03:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- I honestly believe she's a naturally small girl. I've been asked a lot if I was anorexic, because I'm five foot and weight nothing at all. But that's because I am tiny. I fluctuate between weights, but she strikes me as a smart girl and if she was anorexic, would seek treatment. Otherwise, people are fishing for reasons to discredit her. And as for it running in her family, she's indicating that her family knows the symptoms, as does she, and can keep an eye out for it. Losing weight does not prove anorexia. It simply proves someone is losing weight. The only people capable to suspecting, diagnosing and treating anorexia are health care professionals. Not arm chair psychologists on Wikipedia. Vaguely 15:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Vanity Fair cover
In this article, the Vanity Fair cover featuring Scarlett Johansson and Keira Knightley is dated "March 2006", while in the article about Scarlett Johansson it is dated "February 2006". What's the right one? --Daĉjoпочта 18:06, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
External link
Hi, i added an external link yesterday that links to a site called Celebrity Spotlight, and it features news, a profile and images for Keira Knightley. But it was removed and i recieved a message saying it was spam. The link is Keira Knightley at Celebrity Spotlight. I just thought it would be a relevant link, and thought it needed to be discussed. I don't know properly how wikipedia works out these things, so thanks anyway. --Rikardo69 14:32, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
- This site is completely inappropriate for the Wikipedia. Yet again, please read WP:EL. --Yamla 16:52, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
personal life?
i suspect some vandalism, could someone familiar with this page please check: 1) in the celebrity section, it says keira is famously open with media re personal life, then at the end of the section quotes keira saying that she doesnt talk about her personal life. if this isnt vandalism then someone isn't very smart/has written a contradictory article. at least explain the comments if both are valid and one is 'more right'. 2) under trivia: raindrops on her teeth? could this be elaborated on? is this by tapping her teeth? or playing the piano with her teeth? could someone cite a source?
- well, the source doesn't specifiy that she's open about her personal life. I've edited it so it's slightly better IMO. Amo 17:31, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
There was also a claim made on the page that she is engaged, but no sources were named. I took it off because I haven't heard anything like that, but if someone has a source I'll change it back.Lebroyl 16:01, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
British or English?
I am usually a big fan of citing sources, but citing a source for something as simple as a person's nationality seems silly. Too many footnotes make an article hard to read. I've gone back to the archive, and understand the argument. Can we take out the footnote and just put something like <!---Please do NOT change Keira's nationality to British. Since she was born and raised in London she is both British and English, but she refers to herself as English. (see the archived discussion on the discussion page)---> to make it more readable? --In Defense of the Artist 05:14, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good to me - i've just never learned how to add those little notes, so you'd better do it!07:05, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- She is a British Actress, so it says here. [9] as well as other articles, such as here [10] (see opening paragraph), [11] (under nationality). Any other questions regarding it? BlackPearl14 03:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Position in 100 Sexiest List
I apologise if the link was unwarrented. When I saw the other links to positions in various top lists, I thought I would add it. I thought that the whole point of Wikipedia was that people added information to pages to improve the quality and quantity of information, I was unaware that there was any kind of hoops to jump through before adding content.
- It's not so much an issue of jumping through hoops, but you might like to read this: Wikipedia:Article development :) Amo 01:47, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Sexy List
I think the article should say more about Keira's alleged eating disorder, which gets coverage in the tabloids and in gossip magazines practically every week, and less about how 'sexy' she is. Besides, she's too try-hard to be sexy... though that has nothing to do with the improvement of the article. 212.139.171.139 17:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
She does not have an eating disorder, see other related (now updated) topics here. BlackPearl14 03:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Mother Is Irish?
I've never seen anyone suggest that Sharman is Irish. Has someone just confused that with the fact that Keira refers to herself as "Black Scottish", persumably a variation on black Irish?Amo 16:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well we're gonna have to find a better source then, right? I think someone just confused it. BlackPearl14 03:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Pirates of the Caribbean Reference
In the first paragraph of this article, it is mentioned that, in 2003, Keira Knightley became very well known because of two films. The issue I have is that the Pirates of the Caribbean is referred to as a trilogy at this point in the article. Now, I'm not saying that PotC is not a trilogy, but that the first movie should be referred to in this instance because it was the first movie that made her famous, not the trilogy. I wanted to mention it before I made any action to change the sentence in the article itself. (talk to)SailorAlphaCentauri 15:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Pronunciation
Isn't Keira pronounced /ˈkɪəɹə/ rather than /ˈkiɹə/? i.e. it rhymes with nearer. AlexOUK 13:54, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Over-use of rotten tomatoes
There seems to be quite a few references to Rotten Tomatoes film ratings in the article. I wonder if we're giving the site undue prominence and thus perhaps not such a balanced article? Kevin Judson 23:13, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Two things
Why is Bend it like Beckham noted in the filmography list as her American breakthrough. As far as I am aware it was her breakthrough everywhere and fail to so see why America is mentioned. This was her breakthrough film, full stop. I'm taking the word America out, if anyone has a reasonable reason to add it reply here.
Second, next to the reference part about her supporting West Ham there is an unreference statement saying her favourite footballer is formet Liverpool player Igor Biscan. If this had said Steven Gerrard, David Beckham, Ronaldihio, Zinadine Zidane etc I might not have battered an eyelid, but to say her fave footballer was a gangly, slightly usless, Croatian bit part player at Liverpool and not reference it is a little dodgy. JimmyMac82 22:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- We need a source for all this, but in America, Bend it like Beckham was a major hit, and how she was best known (first) here. BlackPearl14 03:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
(Can) Someone (Please) take these (I mean these () ) things away?!
While she is "not planning to have children at the moment... everyone changes, and [Knightley is] sure there will be a time [when she will] want to do something different. [She] could completely see [her]self moving away [from acting]."[20]
Seriously, all those brackets just look silly. Also, the '...' doesn't make this part look very professional. I would change it myself but I don't know the original quote (if it even is one) and I know hardly anything about Keira Knightley at all, so I think I'll mess it up. Could somebody who actually knows how to do that properly do it? Allthecoolnamesweretaken 15:56, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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