Talk:Psych

Elements of Parody

Psych seems half-born from elements of another USA Network original series, The Dead Zone. Instead of copping to his eidetic memory as the source of his abilities to solve complex crimes, Spencer instead uses the information he gains through observation to initiate faked "visions", claiming himself to be a psychic.

--note: I moved this here not because it is not an excellent point, but because perhaps it could be developed into a mini-essay about parallells with other series and points of parody as a theme in the show, assuming that this is a viable and continuing theme. For now, it seems more trivia than something of a theme yet. Please feel free to move it back if you disagree strenuouslyTranscendentalstate 20:10, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

To me, it suspiciously sounds like original research, as there's no way to cite or prove this. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 20:28, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

There was a commercial in which the guy from the Dead Zone and Shawn were in a diner arguing who were better, and then they both agree that at least they weren't Monk after they notice him counting out exactly 100 corn and returning like 6 back to the waitress. That's the only thing I could think of that could serve as any sort of comparison.24.96.200.232 —Preceding comment was added at 02:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Song

On USA Network, a song plays in the background of a commercial for Psych... can someone help me and tell me what the song is. It's an old song I think... but I forgot the name of the song. EMAIL ME @ RAYARTPEREZ@yahoo.com

Try this website: http://www.friendlyindians.com/ click on sound download 151.196.27.15 02:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Consensus Request about formatting

In my opinion, the change of font size for the newspaper names in the critical reaction area is unnecessary, and not in keeping with encyclopedic format; it could be considered advertising. I request a consensus prior to changing it back to normal font, however, to avoid editing war. I've never requested a consensus before, so if this is not the way to do it, please let me know. Transcendentalstate 21:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

This is fine, though I don't know how effective it will be, as the article is fairly new, and I'm not sure how many editors are actively watching the page. The formation of individual sections for individual reviews is indeed unorthodox. I'm just going to go ahead and just change it. If there is an actual dispute, I'm sure it will reemerge sooner or later. Dancter 21:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Excellent. It looks much better now.Transcendentalstate 22:33, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Psych categories

I've created a category for the series. Robert Moore 01:27, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Psyche and Monk

I have noticed a lot of similarities between Adrian Monk and Shawn from Psyche. Ex. They both notice details, they both are witty (though in different ways), etc. However this is original research, therefore not suitable for Wikipedia. If anyone has found a website or media source that supports my claim, that would be interesting. Eirra 03:33, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

It probably is original research, but there was a commercial about the two shows in which their similarities were touched on. Like they had the screen split with a close-up of each saying "Here's the thing" at the same time. Just sayin' that the network noticed it too. 66.87.91.36 05:31, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Differences from the Pilot

It'd be awesome if the trivia section noted some differences from the pilot, especially regarding the casting change. --67.168.0.155 18:40, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

    I'll get on that.

Lassiter

In his entry he's described as 'clean' and 'by the book', however, in his new partner's entry, he's described as the 'bad cop' to her 'good cop'. I haven't seen the show and maybe the two descriptions aren't mutually exclusive, but they seem to me to be in contradition with each other.--Anchoress 00:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

There's no contradiction. He is a by-the-book guy who plays the "bad cop" role to get confessions from suspects.EleCambria 18:28, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

That cops ex-partner/girlfriend

wtf happend to her?me > you 02:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)Malik1

She didn't return after shooting the pilot. I heard the test audience didn't like her character. You have to realize that there is a significant time span from shooting the pilot to shooting the rest of the season because there is no guarantee the show will take off. After USA picked up the show, a lot of changes were in the set and the lineup.--67.168.0.155 19:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

But I thought I saw her in episode 2 and 3 me > you 07:14, 6 August 2006 (UTC)Malik1

Maybe you're mistaking her for the new partner or the chief. They're all blondes. Zagsa 21:38, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Original research

I'm moving two sections of trivia over here as original research:

• The concept pokes fun at Johnny Smith, the authentically-psychic protagonist of another USA Network series, The Dead Zone. USA Network ran an advertisement starring Anthony Michael Hall and James Roday as their respective characters, comparing the merits of their respective talents, only to realize that their lot could be worse when they overhear Adrian Monk counting out 100 individual kernels of corn (and returning the excess three). Spencer's partner and comic foil Gus also seems very much like a mirror to Johnny's friend and confidant Bruce, and Shawn's working relationship with the Santa Barbara Police Department mimicks Johnny's involvement with the Cleaves Mill PD.

• The series also borrows elements from the Sherlock Holmes mythos; Shawn's ability to deduce whole crimes from the most obscure details puts him firmly in the Sherlock role, with Gus as his Watson, with Lassiter, O'Hara, and Vick in the roles of the various Scotland Yard inspectors that approached Holmes for help. Lassiter's name is very close to the most well-known Scotland Yard detective in the Holmes canon, Inspector Lestrade; like Lestrade with Holmes, Lassiter is exasperated by Shawn's effectiveness because he does not understand Shawn's methods.

--TorriTorri 04:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

• The first example is one of the commercials to advertise USA's various shows. 74.137.230.39 23:40, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Episode list

The USA Network says "Shawn vs. The Red Phantom" is the season finale. But I don't know about the episodes after that one. Anybody have a clue what's going on with those? -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 01:20, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

The episode Shawn vs. the Red Phantom is indeed the season finale of Psych. Episodes 9 and 10 (as it said on the Wikipedia page a few days) are now part of Season 2 and that has now been corrected. --Nishkid64 23:43, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Possible Psych WikiProject?

I think, with the show's renewal and increased popularity, that a Psych WikiProject is a possibility. I've started a draft here. Feel free to edit and improve upon it if you think this WikiProject is feasible. :) -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 18:55, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I was thinking of starting a WikiProject, but it seems too early right now. No new episodes until January, so I guess we should wait until then to start a WikiProject. OR...you could start one now and get a bunch of people to join, so that in January we will have a force of people ready to edit. --Nishkid64 16:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay. That's more or less the same thing I was thinking. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 17:49, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't the draft be posted over at Wikipedia:WikiProject/List_of_proposed_projects? --TorriTorri^{Talk to me!} 03:50, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, I don't want to officially propose it yet. I want to see the general reaction first before taking any action at all. EDIT: On second thought, posting it there might not be a bad idea at this point. -→Buchanan-Hermit™/?! 04:27, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Critique excerpts

These seem a little unnecessary, not to mention POV. Maybe the article would be better without them? Twin Bird 19:03, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Timothy Omundson

Not sure if it will go anywhere, but Timothy Omundson who plays the skeptical Det. Lassiter, played a Psychic in Starship Troopers. Hackwrench 02:45, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

disambig?

Why is a disambig "needed here"? Psych is not often used for "Psychology." I've only ever heard it sometimes in a university setting. Nobody actually refers to the field as "Psych." The field is "psychology." The only thing I think of for psych is "tricked you." Disambig is not needed. 141.151.3.195 08:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. "Psych" is a very much used as a shortening of "psychology". Imagine someone watching a movie or TV and seeing a character who says, "I flunked Pysch 101." The person has no idea what the heck "Pysch" is. They turn to Wikipedia, the bestest reference in all the galaxy. Without the disambig, they'll think the character failed a TV show.  :-) --Nélson Ricardo 17:57, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

New noticeboard

A new noticeboard, Wikipedia:Fiction noticeboard, has been created. - Peregrine Fisher 18:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

This noticeboard has been deleted per Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Fiction noticeboard. Please disregard the above post. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 11:27, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Paste-bin

Trivia

Trivia

{{trivia|date=May 2007}}

• The theme song, "I Know, You Know", is performed by series creator Steve Franks and his band, The Friendly Indians .

• The name of the eponymous detective agency derives from multiple applicable meanings. "Psych" was used as a shorthand slang by students of psychology as early as 1895, and Shawn's observational abilities and memory are as psychologically based as they are environmentally. As Shawn points out, "psych" also serves as a less-commonly used shorthand for psychic, which he uses his flawless recall to pretend to be. As Gus points out, the term "psych," by itself, is most commonly used in reference to the 1980's interjection, meaning "gotcha" or "just kidding," and which seems to stem from the "to outsmart" meaning of "psych out" first attested in 1934.

• Gus drives a five-door Toyota Echo hatchback (now known as the Toyota Yaris). While popular in Canada (where the series is shot), this model is not available in the United States (where the series is fictionally set), although the other cars in the Yaris family are.

• Shawn rides a Norton 750 Commando motorcycle. The exact year of the classic model is unknown, as there were several 750 Commandos released in the 1970s.

• After departing from The West Wing, Dulé Hill joined the cast just in time.

• Dulé Hill, Kirsten Nelson and Corbin Bernsen all worked on NBC's The West Wing: Hill as Charlie Young, Personal Aide to President Bartlet (main cast); Nelson as the young Mrs. Delores Landingham, (then) secretary to Bartlet's father (Two Cathedrals); and Bernsen as Henry Shallick, Deputy House Majority Whip (R) (The Leadership Breakfast & Bartlet's Third State of the Union).

I've moved the section to the discussion page per WP:TRIVIA. I personally think only #1 can be integrated. Matthew 22:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Phych in New Zealand

Phych is no longer aired in New Zealand. it finished season one (with the exception of episodes 10 11 and 14 which were not aired for some reason.) and has been replaced by 'are you smarter than a fifth grader?'

Notice of Psych episode article review

The individual episode articles for Psych are now being reviewed according to episode notability guidelines. Please contribute to the discussion on Talk:List of Psych episodes#Episode article review. Thanks. -- Jack Merridew 11:10, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

pineapple

does anyone know the deal with the pineapple?

• It's a Hawaiian welcoming gift. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.166.225.191 (talk) 22:16, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

• I have noticed the pineapple in a couple of episodes, usually hidden in the background such as in a the pattern of Shawn's father's hawaiian shirt, sitting in a fruit basket, or Shawn holding it during the pilot episode. I consider it a funny thing to try and find. But I have not spotted it in every episode yet. In Spellingg Bee, I did not see it but Chinese food was shown (which is also shown on the insert for the Season One box set). Coincidence? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.58.250.198 (talk) 03:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

• The pineapple is definitely are running gag on the show. The NBC/Universal store is actually selling merchandise featuring the pineapple here -> http://www.nbcuniversalstore.com/detail.php?p=52635&v=nbuusa. A pineapple can often be seen in their office or at a restaurant they are eating at. It is part of Shawn's larger love of fruit and food in general. During the Spelling Bee episode Shawn gives the contestants "Banana" and "Onion" as words to spell. Then in the Soap Opera episode Shawn wants to know if the sandwiches on set are for everyone or just the cast. With more references it might be justifiable to give the pineapple it's own section on the page, but we'd need more than NBC's merchandise store.

Unnecessary pages

While I appreciate what is apparently a ton of enthusiasm directed toward Psych's Wikipedia page and all related character pages, I think some users have gone a bit over the top lately. Just as an example, if you go to the Carlton Lassiter page, you'll notice that there's a link to a full article that was written about a peripheral character who has never appeared on the show. On a similar note, Buzz McNab -- who is a cool character, don't get me wrong -- also has his own page, even though he's extremely far from a main or even secondary show character. Same goes for Lucinda Barry, who appeared in one episode yet has her own full Wikipedia article.

Any thoughts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.187.28.210 (talk) 17:41, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I love McNab, but he really doesn't have a significant enough role on the show to warrant his own Wikipedia article. And as for Lucinda Barry and John Fenich - no question, they don't belong here. Shoemoney2night (talk) 03:32, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

I have nominated Lucinda Barry and John Fenich for deletion. You can give your two cents on the discussion pages here and here, respectively. Shoemoney2night (talk) 03:48, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Fanfiction link

I removed the link to the Psych fanfiction site. While I can see a detailed fansite (i.e. one that has lots of screenshots, character/actor info, trivia, etc.) being linked as justifiable, the fanfiction site is just full of non-canonical stories. It doesn't belong here. 70.234.1.188 03:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

How many seasons?

Info box says three seasons, episode listing only shows two (with unaired episodes). How many seasons are there? Eudoxie (talk) 19:10, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Unless I'm missing some odd way of defining 'seasons', there are only two at the moment. I've made the correction to the infobox. Thanks. Kuru ^talk 19:13, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I think it was changed due to the announcement of the series being renewed for a third season. Since the episodes have not yet been produced, I'm not sure which number should go in the box. Not much guidance at Template:Infobox Television on the subject that I can find. Kuru ^talk 19:20, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

You were correct to revert back to 2 seasons. Just because the 3rd season was OK'd doesn't mean that it will be made. For example, look at season 7 of 24. Another reason they may have labeled it as 3 seasons is they thought that this second part of season 2 was actually a new 3rd season. Flash176 (talk) 20:06, 2 February 2008 (UTC)