Talk:The Best of Both Worlds (Star Trek: The Next Generation)

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Clean up required

This article could do with a cleanup and re-write. The plot synopsis is far too reliant on quotes and, in my opinion, does not read well.--Crais459 12:04, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Votes for Deletion

Article listed on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion Feb 20 to Feb 26 2004. Discussion:

Best of Both Worlds - Is this legitimate? Regardless, it doesn't make any sense. Perl 21:52, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. It's a Star Trek: Next Generation episode. There is precedent for the eps having their own page. See Encounter at Farpoint. Admittedly, it needs work, though. RadicalBender 22:02, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. I'll add some to it when I have time... in an attempt to make it a better article. Perhaps best put on cleanup, instead of here. Lyellin 22:47, Feb 20, 2004 (UTC)
- I would suggest moving episodes of any given TV show to an article that reflects the show in the title of the article... ex "Star Trek TNG: Best of Both Worlds" A lot of TV show episodes are rather common phrases that could merit their own articles, it's important to keep fact separate from fiction. Alexwcovington 01:30, Feb 21, 2004 (CST)
- Delete: insignficant. Random episodes of TV shows get their own pages? So what if it's been done before; no need to repeat the mistake. Wile E. Heresiarch 09:41, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Probably the most significant and popular ST:TNG episode. Mrwojo 21:00, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. It was voted the most popular TNG episode. Jacob1207 21:25, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Keep, it's a particularly notable episode, but I agree with Alexwcovington that the title is bad. A common enough phrase that doesn't mention Star Trek at all will not do. Move content and turn into redirect? Cool Hand Luke 21:44, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. BL 10:32, Feb 22, 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Resistance is futile. -- Seth Ilys 16:43, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- I think this page should be kept, but I agree that naming should be consistent for all articles on television series episodes. This is an actual saying and the naming of this article could lead to confusion. -- Graham :) 19:05, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- The actual saying is best of both worlds, not The Best of Both Worlds. Keep at existing location. Morwen 19:06, Feb 22, 2004 (UTC)
  - Even though the capitalisation on the saying is different, I would still advocate moving the article. What happens when the title of a Star Trek episode is the same as another article on wikipedia? I kinda feel that wherever one would move that article to should be where the standard is set before all these articles get written. Naming conventions exist to stop confusion from happening in the first place -- Graham :) 20:33, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Move to a more relevant name, as Alexwcovington suggested. --Johnleemk 14:52, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- I think the way it is currently (@ 'Best of Both Worlds' with a clear note at the top linking to the phrase) is just fine. --Mrwojo 16:43, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)

It should be The Best of Both Worlds anyway. Montrealais

Huh. And now I see that already has its own page. I'll be merging them now. - Montrealais

Deflector Dish Beam

Why is it the ships in First Contact can damage the Borg Cube, but not the deflector dish beam, I know they upgraded thier weapons since then, but the beam channels almost all the energy in the Enterprise-D! That should be way more powerful. One explanation I've heard proposed is the beam isn't really that powerful, as in Night Terrors a hydrogen explosion in space liberates the Enterprise-D, "proving" whereas when they use the beam it doesn't, but again the beam channels all the energy in the ship, which uses dilithium crystals and anti-matter as fuel, much more powerful than a chemical explosion. I just don't understand. 66.189.90.207 15:48, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a case of the dish not being powerful enough: it is explained in the episode that the deflector dish does no damage because Picard had prior knowledge of the modifications. When he was assimilated, it allowed the Borg to adapt their shields ahead of time. In the ST:TNG novel Vendetta, another ship uses the same trick and, because they use a different method and frequency, the cube is not able to adapt its shielding ahead of time. The resulting beam blows a hole straight through the Borg ship--160.9.41.113 12:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, first of all, novels aren't canon in Star Trek. And besides frequency what about the pure raw power of the beam. It should be a case that they simply can't make a shield strong enough to resist it. It hits it way too hard. I'm not exactly sure how adjusting the frequency blocks something like this. Of course, I think I'd need more information about how a frequency stops phasers. but borg shield could adapt to photon torpedo's too, an M/AM explosion which is pure energy.

What is it the frequency of? Does the shield refresh itself so many times per second. Like how your monitor screen has a rate of how many times it redraws your screen? If so then perhaps the phaser is faster than the shield, and gets through in the split second intervals when the shield isn't up.

Some fans have extended that the Borg can adapt to anything, which is ludicrous, like being able to shrug off a death star superlaser hit, no matter how they adjusted thier shields, again they simply couldn't make a shield strong enough. The snare 05:04, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"so that Shelby could replace Riker"

I've pulled this:

It should be noted that the episode was originally written so that Shelby could replace Riker, because Johnathan Frakes, who played Riker, was planning to leave the show. However, after viewing the episode, Frakes was so impressed by the episode, he stayed with the show; thus, the plan to write him out was cancelled.

Anyone have a source to back this up? I don't think this is true. AlistairMcMillan 05:49, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Not a source, but my understanding is that Picard Patrick Stewart was supposed to be the one to leave the show, in a contract/money dispute. That's why he was the one captured. Shelby was probably supposed to replace Riker so that Riker could replace Picard. --Hires an editor 22:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Which in itself is odd, considering Data was third in command. Technically, he would have automatically become first officer.--Kross ^Talk 20:58, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's the same logic used in the episode as aired--Shelby, being established in the Command division of Starfleet (as noted by her uniform) and having focused her career on the study of the Borg, was a more suitable candidate for first officer at that point in time. - Pennyforth 03:40, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot 05:27, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"I put the Borg to sleep."

As far as the final sequence of the borg, They were are at 100% power. They were put into "sleep sequence" What does everyone do at sleep sequence? they build up energy and power. If the Borg were at 100% power, and built up power? Why shouldn't the article state they overloaded and exploaded? Griffiths1900 03:40, 12 October 2007 (UTC)griffiths1900[reply]

"Locutus of Borg"?

Does Picard/Locutus call himself "Locutus of Borg" or "Locutus, a Borg"? It sounded to me more like the latter. 84.71.43.87 (talk) 21:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]