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February 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on Talk:Defenders of the Hate. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. ~Matticus UC 09:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Becoming an editor

Hey, i just wanted to ask you how you become an editor, do i have to sign up anywhere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom.mevlie (talk • contribs) 07:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

There are no special requirements; by creating a user account you are already an editor (and in fact, even that's not necessary - anyone can edit regardless of whether they've created an identity here, it's just that having a user account has a few additional advantages over anonymous editors). If you're interested in directly contributing to articles, it's a good idea if you read through some of the help pages linked at the top of this talk page, especially in the "Getting Started" section. Remember that any changes and additions you make to articles need to be verified by citing sources so readers can tell where that information comes from. If you have any further questions, you are welcome to leave another request on my talk page and I'll do what I can to help. ~Matticus UC 09:19, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I guess this may be wishful thinking, but how does one become an administrator? I will pay if i have to, donate etc. --Tom.mevlie (talk) 09:41, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
The way to become an administrator is to prove your capabilities, understanding and trustworthiness by contributing in a positive and constructive way to many aspects of Wikipedia (not just editing articles, but interacting well with other users, participating in discussions on policy, deletions, etc, performing maintenance tasks like edit patrolling, and so on). Once you've built up a track record of good edits over months or years, then you submit your request for adminship. Read the pages WP:ADMIN and WP:GRFA for a more detailed breakdown of what adminship is and how to work towards it. ~Matticus UC 10:07, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I've noticed that you've been adding your signature to some of your article contributions, such as the edit you made to Woodstock nation (novel). This is a simple mistake to make and is easy to correct. For future reference, the need to associate edits with users is taken care of by an article's edit history. Therefore, you should use your signature only when contributing to talk pages, the Village Pump, or other such discussion pages. For a better understanding of what distinguishes articles from these type of pages, please see What is an article?. Again, thanks for contributing, and enjoy your Wikipedia experience! Thank you. Thanks so much for starting the article, by the way. скоморохъ 10:21, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yo, great work writing the article, but Wikipedia is a godless hive mind encyclopedia and so does not carry bylines. Check out the notice at the bottom of the page when you edit: "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed for profit by others, do not submit it." Regards, скоморохъ 12:08, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, it would get very messy indeed if you wrote a sentence such as "Woofy is an angry black-and-white dog with a mutilated tail (tom.melville)" edited to note that Woofy was a Dalmatian with my name credited - ""Woofy is an angry black-and-white (Tom.melville) Dalmatian (Skomorokh) with a mutilated tail (Tom.melville)" Some articles have tens of thousands of edits and it would be ridiculous to credit every single change in the article itself. That's why we have the history tab at the top of the page so you can see who's responsible for a change without screwing up the whole article. скоморохъ 12:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adoption

Sure, I'd be willing to adopt you (I see that you have asked several people about it, so let me know if you end up getting adopted by someone else). I moved your message from my user page to my user talk (that's where you leave messages, the user page is for presenting yourself).

Your wikiprojects idea sounds interesting, but perhaps it is a bit wide in scope. Did you ever consider working with an existing project like Wikipedia:WikiProject Ancient Near East, Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome, Wikipedia:WikiProject Norse history and culture or Wikipedia:WikiProject Ancient Egypt. It's probably best to use what is already there, if you think that a certain group needs more focus you can always start a taskforce within a project. Do you have a particular area within Ancient History that you are especially interested in? Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 23:31, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All history interests me, in school i study both ancient and modern history, which is why i commented on the cold war wikiproject. I might add that not many people do that. BUt with ancient history i would have to say that the Roman late republic and Ancient egypt. I Haven't however seen a project for Western and Northern Europe, and Norse history and culture wouldn't fall under the category of Ancient times. Tom.mevlie (talk) 23:36, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It would be great if you could adopt me, as we both share the same sort of interests, your knowledge could help me at school and on wikipedia, thanks Tom.mevlie (talk) 07:16, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I can coach you, but it seems Pax:Vobiscum might already have that covered. Nishkid64 (talk) 19:36, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

namespace vio

Wikipedia:WikiProject Ancient European History is in the correct namespace. -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 09:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You created WikiProject Ancient European History. This a) was in the "article" or "(Main)" namespace and b) had a trailing dot. I have moved it eventually to Wikipedia:WikiProject Ancient European history which is in the correct namespace. -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 19:39, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Getting started

I saw that you are starting up the wikiproject, good luck! I think it would be good to keep the project listed on the proposals page as a way to find other interested wikipedians. The ones that signed up under you were what we call single-purpose accounts, accounts made by someone to either make the project look "successful" or someone wanting to disrupt the process by making people not trust you (both things happen regularly). If you were the one who created the other accounts, read Wikipedia:Sock puppetry and don't do it again. If it wasn't you, lets move on and start the important task of improving wikipedia!

Since you can be a member of several wikiprojects I'd advise you to join a few of the ones we talked about earlier. Look at their lists of things that needs to be done and pick something that's not too daunting. Happy editing, and send me a message if you have any questions. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 14:56, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Shakespeare

I have since found out the project already exists, WP:WikiProject Shakespeare. George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp 15:28, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Long and beautiful

let's hope so, eh? Kind regards. Dan Beale-Cocks 11:24, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I really really don't think it's the swearing. I really really do think it was the personal attack. I do think there's a growing divide between admins and editors which is unfortunate, but Im sure people would have been just as annoyed if you'd mde that comment to a regular editor. In fact, they might have been more protective of a regular editor. I dunno, I guess it depend if you get one of the cabal clique or not. One of my gripes at the moment is that good faith editors can very quickly be blocked (or put up for discussion) because they choose the wrong name - Imagine you're called "Brian James Kim" and you were born in 1993 - "BJKim93" was a username reported as possibly lewd "I don't know if BJ refers to blowjob". The WP community sometimes seems to say Hello new editor, thanks for the useful contributions, but we don't like your user name so please fuck off. Here's a username block. Dan Beale-Cocks 11:37, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Answer

There isn't a specific topic you have to write about. Just write why you are proud to be a wikipedian. Signed, Nothing444 13:25, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject

Hi again! I have to agree with the guy who wrote on the project talk page, you should consider joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome or Wikipedia:WikiProject European history and creating a taskforce there. As it looks right now you will have to duplicate a lot of the work that they have already done (setting up the project, recruiting members and tagging articles). Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 18:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well i hope that everything that has happened recently hasn't lowered your opinion of me, it is all very regretible and it won't happen again, i am applying for an unblock as we speak. Thanks, and thanks for the help, Tom.mevlie (talk) 06:37, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

March 2008

This is your only warning.
The next time you make a personal attack as was detailed at :Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#New_user_User:Tom.mevlie, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. --VS talk 05:36, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


martyrdom

Well, there you have it folks, i have been blocked trying to prove a point, and my point was proven, you can't do anything unless action is taken quickly and directly, otherwise you just get a long discussion article, will i do it again? No, my point has been proven, no use flogging a dead horse, i just want to thank the user who took the action, i will see you in 23 hrs and 52 mins (4:34 PM my time). Goodbye. Oh, and if non action persists, i will have to leave wikipedia for good, and that may sound like a good thing, but it really isn't. Tom.mevlie (talk) 05:43, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You weren't blocked. I.want.to.tellyou (talk · contribs) is blocked, and seeing as you both share the same IP, it is less likely that you happen to live in the same building and instead you two are the same individual.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 05:48, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Tom, we like to assume good faith, but we're not stupid. So tell me, since you created that sock on February 29, is User:I.just.saw.a.face. also you? How about User:Teg.kcab? Antandrus (talk) 05:54, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
teg.kcab is me, but i just saw a face is my brother, he is laughing his head off that i was blocked too, i guess i'm sorry for tegkcab but you know, there are some problems with wikipedia that can only be solved by staunch facism, i could do it, i would run it a damn sight better than how it is being run now, i can tell you that. Tom.mevlie (talk) 06:00, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Brother

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It was my brother, i swear, not me, even though i probably deserve it, but not for this. Tom.mevlie (talk) 06:33, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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It was my brother, i swear, not me, even though i probably deserve it, but not for this. Tom.mevlie (talk) 06:33, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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