Talk:GameFAQs/Archive 1

"GameSpot (Sister Site to GameFAQs)"

Really? I didn't know that - I always thought they just paid GameFAQs to put text links. - Bulbaboy 23:19, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)

C|Net owns both of them.

I think that the LUE History section needs to be expanded to include previous events/its creation/whatever, as it is somewhat strange to have whole section about one event. I would have added this info myself, but since I didn't actually go to LUE before it was closed, I don't know anything about it. - Gallavant from GameFAQs forums, 9th Feb, 2004

If you checked the history of this page, you would see that this article was nothing but an entry for the History of LUE. Otacon2009

Well, I'm glad someone did that. :) - Gallavant

Future date in history section

the history bit mentions "August 30th, 2009" - I assume it's a typo for 2005, and have edited it to reflect that... but not knowing anything about events on the GameFAQs message boards, I'm not sure if thats the case or if it was someone's attempt to predict a RIot, as it were.

Vandalism

This page has come under heavy repeated vandalism. It is currently protected.

Sorry about that... I'm from GameFAQs, too, LUE in particular, and it's just scary what these people can do sometimes. I saw the link to this page posted there and thought there would be damage... F. Delpierre

For anyone who has access to LUE (you know if you can) this is the topic that links here. I don't think it was malicious in intent but the edit this page button was just too tempting for some. BesigedB

Yes, obviously it wasn't malicious, but as you say, it's much too tempting for a certain class of morons on LUE. F. Delpierre

Same here, Delpierre... not surprised that vandalism is occuring =\. ugen64 21:25, Mar 9, 2004 (UTC)

I just fixed a bit of vandalism. Is it just me, or do most vandals have IPs for names instead of usernames? --Evice 03:12, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC)

LUE is a powerful force. The LUEsers come in great numbers and leave a trail of destruction. Try not to get on their bad side, especially if you run a web site with forums or a guestbook. ~Just another LUEser

Minor problem

As the article is currently protected from editing, I must point out that there's a typo in the first paragraph under "LUE History". It should read "occurrence", not "occurence". Please fix it when you get the chance. Chris Roy 03:01, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Work required

Links to ToS violation and lots of other jargon-busters (some still to be written). At the moment parts of this page would be unintelligible to anyone new to the culture of sites such as this one. Andrewa 20:13, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Please remove the neo nazi reference, cjayc is actually a nice guy

Understandable by Newbies?

One thing I've noticed about most Wikipedia articles as they are understandable by those not normally familiar with the subject matter- however, this contains much slang and references that even I, a veteran of net boards, do not understand. Perhaps it could be made a bit more accessible?

Another one

[1]: I am afraid that this will cause another invasion from LUE... :-\ ugen64 22:34, Mar 23, 2004 (UTC)

Wikification

A large bit of the LUE history needs to be wikified, and a lot of the slang and POV has to be edited.

What's wikification and POV?

Wikification is needed when a large amount of text has been copied from another source (presumably with permission) but needs to be edited (wikified) to follow style rules (links, proper headings, and other conventions). POV = point of view --204.210.27.239

Quotes?

By the by, is the quotes section really needed? It seems to be just a collection of funny things, and not very encyclopedia-like. --204.210.27.239

I think it would be better to move the quotes to a seperate article if they are to be kept at all. They clutter this page up to much. RadioYeti

This article isn't very wiki-ish at all

Hmm ... does this article seem too much like the rest of the wiki? Say World Wide Web?

I think we need to clean up the article, wikify it, and remove the "Credits" section (although it was mostly written by etaonish and 24.*, eventually, it'll get edited beyond comprehension — page history is here for a reason!)

Just my 1.414² cents. [ alerante 20:25, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC) ]

Meh

Wikification is fine...but credits is actually important I feel. not too many will invest effort to edit it.

Quotes is essential....it defines what GameFAQs is like. --Etaonish 23:36, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)

EDIT: ok, ok fine

Does this page really need an extensive history of posters to, and threads on, the GameFAQs boards? Honestly, deleting everything from ==LUE History== onwards would only improve the article from my perspective. -Sean 23:44, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)

YES! GameFAQs is described early on and if you're simply looking for general info stop there. IMHO, GameFAQs has a very unique history that ought to be included.

Are you a LUEser? If so, you'd understand.--Etaonish 01:16, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Perhaps it would be better to move the LUE/gamefaqs history to a seperate article like History of GameFAQs boards and the quotes to something like Quotes from GameFAQs boards or perhaps to Wikiquote (q:GameFAQs) -Shoecream

I agree with Shoecream - the LUE history stuff is easily big enough to be put in a seperate article. And it would solve the problem with the enormous size of the article - how the heck did it get to 86 KB without anyone reducing the size? - Bulbaboy 04:23, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Is this a go-ahead to move? Shall we do it right now? Shoecream 04:24, Mar 28, 2004 (UTC)

Moved Quotes as well.--Etaonish 14:29, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

This page is nonencyclopedic and should be deleted.

If you think a page should be deleted, use the proper channels: list it at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion. -Sean 00:26, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Karma

What is it? There doesn't seem to be much explanation... --Erik Garrison 06:20, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

Done. --Etaonish 13:09, May 28, 2004 (UTC)

Page protected after yet another massive vandalism attack. —No-One Jones 08:30, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Expand the section on RI!

The section on Random Insanity really needs to be expanded. There is nothing on Wayneold's Rants, Sonic Boom's Royal Rankings or the infamous "lolli" fad topic created Salamander from HECK. These were all very important parts of RI's history, and should all be noted here.

There is a separate article on the history of GameFAQs boards. -Sean Curtin 02:46, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

There isn't, but all the same this article is supposed to be only major official events. --Etaonish 14:35, Jun 29, 2004 (UTC)

There was. Fortunately, it's gone now. -Sean Curtin 16:34, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Well, good thing it's gone, it was summer 1999 for crying out loud,... I mean... what was a kid in heat had to do?

Add a P/C section

The P/C (Paranormal and Conspiracy) board has long been one of my most favorite boards on Gamefaqs and I would really like to see its history in print.

I don't have enough information personally to write this: I'm primarily a LUEser now. If you can get in contact with a PC vet, he can write and I'd edit it.

Pssh. It's a haven for trolls. Rarely does it have a real topic about the paranormal or conspiracies. I don't see it as worthy for its own section. --Evice 03:16, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC)

C'mon, Turkeys

Can't you accept the perfectly NPOV position that you're claiming not to have been hacked? We're not saying you're liars, we're just saying that you said it! ~ FriedMilk 05:43, 2004 Sep 1 (UTC)

Christopher McDonald/Kao Megura

In announcing Chris' death, CJayC said that "without him, there probably wouldn't be a GameFAQs" (I'm paraphrasing). Surely there is some way to fit him in this article? --Feitclub 20:08, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)

Wonderful idea. I'll get to it. --Etaonish 00:47, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)

I found the full text of CJayC's update:

5/19/04 12:30PM Truly A Legend.

It's with a very heavy heart that I must tell you that Chris MacDonald, known to most of you as Kao Megura, passed away earlier this week well before his time.

Chris wasn't just a contributor to GameFAQs, he was the contributor. Still one of the most prolific and well-respected contributors to this site, he created probably the most well-known and well-read (and not to mention well-written) FAQs on the whole of the Internet back in 1997 for Final Fantasy VII. That guide alone is still used and credited today as the inspiration for countless authors to follow. From my own correspondence with him, I can also tell you that he was a great guy to get to know.

Not merely GameFAQs, not just the Internet, but the world as a whole has lost someone special, and he will be truly missed. I truly believe that GameFAQs as we know it today would not have existed without him.

Friends, acquaintances, and even those who were just inspired or helped without ever even knowing him personally who wish to send comments and rememberances may send them to kao@gamefaqs.com. This mail will go to his family, not to me, so please use it appropriately. Charitable donations can be made to UNICEF. - Vague Rant 07:27, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)

So...what do we do with this? Include it in the article? Make an article on Chris and link to it? --Feitclub 18:09, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)

Spinoffs

Just did some major editing on the Spinoff Boards section, so there's a chance I might've messed something up. Looks OK to me, but if I've screwed up somewhere like deleted a whole section of it let me know, thanks. - Ant 01:04, 2004 Nov 8 (UTC)

(P.S. I really think it needs a new page, there's tons of info out there that could end up in it)

Maybe we should add some stuff to cover major events. For instance, the Joako incident. That could be interesting and give us something to write about. - lancelott

Please elaborate for non GameFAQ people as to what that is... Krupo 02:28, Nov 9, 2004 (UTC)

Basically what happened was a bunch of GF users had several websites including spinoff boards, all with the same hosting company on the same servers. One of them found out about this and started messing around, found out the servers were completely unsecured, and stole the source code and entire database for one of the spinoffs. there have been cases before where unsecure code in the boards on some sites led to their database and stuff being taken (whitefyre) but this time the hosting service was at fault. It caused at least 2 of the sites to dump the host and move elsewhere. Ant 21:37, 2004 Nov 9 (UTC)

I think the spinoff lists would be better as one nested list so it's more clear which ones are based off what. Right now everything's either GFH or Not GFH, but it'd make more sense to show e.g. that Outboards is based on Mediarchive code. Anyone agree? Ant 18:48, 2004 Nov 29 (UTC)

Vandalism

I just reverted this page. The entire page was deleted by 203.12.164.5, and made to simply read "anal jizz loole."

Yeah, this page is a steady target of juvenile vandalism by GameFAQs members. Speaks volumes about their maturity level. Rhobite 14:30, Nov 12, 2004 (UTC)

Actually, it's not always GameFAQs members. I know a dozen SA members that regularly vandalize this for some reason. Why, I don't know. --Etaonish 18:21, Nov 12, 2004 (UTC)

I just checked the IP to see if some known GF user was responsible for it. It's a proxy server in australia. Ant 22:00, 2004 Nov 12 (UTC)

I wouldn't be surprised if a LUEser was responsible for it. --Ixfd64 05:35, 2004 Dec 24 (UTC)

Next-Gen Gaming

Should Next-Gen Gaming be mentioned under the boards? Granted, it's not one of the most popular boards, but GameFAQs is a gaming-related site, and NGG is its closest thing to a "general gaming" board.

How recent is recent?

I removed that "recent" line on the bit about Conan O Brian since it is becomming old. Otacon2009

Survivor

Read through the entry. Not even a mention of the survivor board. I'll put in a word, see if I can't at least get a small write up from some of the others on there.

Someone can't count...

"Review Contributors is the board for all the review writers to talk about common interests. This board has been split to better categorize the discussions on it. It is now composed out of three boards: General, Help and Critiques, and Social."

I don't see what the problem is. The three boards are here, here and here. Unless there's a fourth board which nobody else here knows about, in which case feel free to point it out. 80.65.242.104 00:24, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Minor Change

The Flux Network's link is essentially dead, as ns1987 (or the patrons) got tired of that source. The correct link is www.thefluxnet.com, and the boards have reverted back to anotherFyre. The site is run by Mike "EpsilonX" Lasater.

Seperate article for the Gamefaqs boards. Yay or Nay?

I think what I did was good as the article was getting past the limit. Should I vfd the seperate article so it can remerge or was that a good idea?--203.29.151.3 04:46, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I say go for it. --Golbez 05:35, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC)

Indeed. Andre (talk) 16:36, Jan 6, 2005 (UTC)

I concur. However, the article for LUElinks is locked if I remember correctly. Typhlosion 18:18, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Special Ops biased against IE?

Funny. When a site uses W3C standards correctly, they're biased against IE. Shouldn't someone with more editorial savvy (and less love for the Evil Empire) fix that?

Done. 郵便箱 22:07, Jan 7, 2005 (UTC)

rv'ing. Don't add false information (the "crashing" comment) unless you have facts to back it up. Ant 23:15, 2005 Jan 8 (UTC)

You're very dirty I see. You removed the code to crash Internet Explorer from your site. 郵便箱 09:44, Jan 19, 2005 (UTC)

I suggest changing the referernce of Jeff Veasley as a "Neo-Nazi" its funny yes, but why LUE/LUE2/LUElinks refers him to him as one is beyond me.

Jeff never sold-out he took what he made from the ground up and cashed in on it end of story

Error.

Someone change that "GameFAQs spinoff/clone wars" heading back the way it was (GameFAQs spinoff/clone boards). Whatever it was changed for doesn't make any sense.

Updating the spinoff wars

I added most of the spinoff wars (LUE2, JunkieZnat, and Darkside Legion) but a lot of it is incomplete and probably not correct. I don't know much about the DSL situation (espeically the conflicts) or what really happened with Tsi's LUE2 (who pulled it?). The JZN thing is correct - I was there for all its ups and downs.

"It was started and is maintained by Neo-Nazi Jeff "CJayC" Veasey."

So...after locking the page against vandalism, why is that part still as it is? --Evice 22:22, Jan 25, 2005 (UTC)

Fixed. Andre (talk) 03:18, Jan 26, 2005 (UTC)

Added a new spinoff board.

Added LUEFAQs to the original source section.

Concerning cleanup

Do we really need this much text about every spinoff board? And their feuds? Perhaps the feuds and stuff could be moved to a seperate page, say, GameFAQs message boards spinoffs. And, uh, does anyone have any idea who added the cleanup notice? Maybe the person who added it could specify what exactly is lacking in this article. It would be nice if we could get this up to featured article status. =D

On a side note, someone needs to take a new screenie of the main page. This one is saved as JPG for some reason and it would be better to use a PNG file. --Shoecream 05:44, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)

Sections GameFAQs spinoff/clone boards and GameFAQs spinoff/clone feuds could be deleted. They have little value. Vanity. Philip Nilsson 10:35, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Since these sections have been completely deleted from Wikipedia now, I'll go put them up on my site instead. Perhaps there people will have a bit more respect for the site's subculture and history. Ant 20:55, 2005 Feb 17 (UTC)

And I supppose NGG (NGG?!?!) and LUE are more important? Please. Whoever put those up seriously needs to rethink the importance and impact on GameFAQs.

They have an impact on the FORUMS, maybe. But to the site as a whole? Probably not. Most users of GameFAQs don't go anywhere near the forums, myself included. Just because it involved the forums doesn't mean it belongs in the GameFAQs article. Perhaps a GameFAQs boards article is in order? Mo0[talk] 00:53, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Major spnioff updating

I gave the spinoffs bit a real history, although not by any means complete nor completely accurate. Cna someone fix it up and confirm its accuracy? Thanks - hbdragon88

Yeah, here's the deal...

The grammar and spelling are still at a low. I'll do what I can but I know I am not knowledgable enough to make all these corrections assuredly, but someone with skills in English should take up the bane.

Remerged boards page

I remerged the message boards page into this page, because there's no reason to have two pages and the article is still just under 32kb. Andre (talk) 05:09, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

Maybe you should've discussed this change before unilaterally moving it. A consensus was reached a while ago to keep these as seperate pages.

Looks like the only consensus was someone saying "maybe a GameFAQs boards page is in order." This isn't really a consensus. Andre (talk) 16:28, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)

It is a lot more organized on a seperate page. Although I was against it initially, I see how much better the article is with a seperate link. Re-merge please... Hbdragon88 05:19, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The reason why the boards had a seperate page was because it was aproaching the limit and because the Something Awful Forums is a seperate article from it's main article, I thought that the GF community is active and divided enough to warrant a seperate article. Sure, not much will grow but it's abit like the spinoff descriptions but more useful as it's describing what the various communities have been since their foundation in late 1999 up until now as well as in the future.

Having it in the main article will do what the spinoff link section did: Be the spot where the mouse wheel clicks and the mouse being held towards the bottom of the screen. If it was just a single line linking to it, it'll leave the reader with the option of seeing the board's histories insteaad of "Oh oh, big space of the boards I've seen for the thousandth time. I'll hold it untill I pass that."

I know this as I do it and I bet some other people feel the same way. Re-inserting the board on a different page would remove the waffling on the main article and thus, making the article a higher standard.

Also in future, can you at least notify us prior so we can reach a consensus? Even if the article was in need of a cleanup, it still doesn't mean come in and bulldoze it and ask questions later.While I too should of asked before the creation of the board article, what I did get from it was a invisible agreement when I did notify this talk page. If you notified us before the merge we could of reached a proper and visible consensus- --203.29.151.4 14:19, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Anyone can merge or unmerge a page. You don't need a consensus to do it. Andre (talk) 00:12, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)

Factionism

While I'm slightly flattered by my mention as a board "loyalist" in recent edits, I don't think this is the place to promote factionism. Many loaded words were used to present a skewed view of events on MBH, and thus the site in general. I'd like to remind that particular editor that this is a place for facts, not opinions. Please keep editorials off the wiki.

Addendum: In addition, the "ridicule" that new users asking obvious questions recieve is usually a) not by MBH regulars or b) deserved, as known users make joke accounts for joke questions. Again, I ask that the wiki be kept as unbiased as possible.

-The23rdMagus

Seperating the message boards?

I think it's time to sepearte the message boards list from the main GameFAQs article Hbdragon88 05:22, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I concur. Wanderer 00:01, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)

Rawr!!!

KOS user? I don't know what this is referring to...Kill on Sight?--Frosteey 02:39, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

LUELinks

LUELinks is a completely separate site from GameFAQs. It should not redirect. They are two different sites run by two different people.

Perhaps if someone could write an actual article about the site instead of "doesn't exist lolol", you could make a better case for its inclusion. However, the community has decided that Luelinks isn't sufficiently notable for an encyclopedia article. The decision is available at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Luelinks 2. Rhobite 20:37, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

I read said page, and a comment is that maybe if the LUELinkers were actually noted or represented, they wouldn't troll so much. A lot of it, I feel, is out of a feeling that they're being neglected or shafted.

Dude, have you been around? LLers (or someone, at least) keeps adding LUELinks to the spinoffs section, linking to the stupid .tk website and saying that it doesn't exist. Hunt back in the GameFAQs WIki history; you'll see it there. LL isn't taking it very seriously. Hbdragon88 22:05, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

GameFAQs is well-represented by articles here (too much, IMO) yet they still seem to add nonsense to this article all the time. I don't think it's correct to say that LUELinks people would stop trolling if only they had an article. Rhobite 22:17, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Small gripe

In the "Special Social Boards" section:

"Also noteworthy, the Zelda Social Board (also called ZSB), an enemy of LUE, is part of the Special Social Boards."

It's a bit redundant (as that board is alread mentioned), and a little inflammatory as well. Should it be deleted or rewritten?

Sashanan

After recent events, should the article be updated to reveal what hapenned?

Not notable. No. TheCoffee 2 July 2005 11:45 (UTC)

What happened involving Sashanan? He is one of the most senior moderators on Gamefaqs. Rdysn5

An Apology

Sorry about the inclusion of three insults. I had introduced this article on a message board I go to, and one person was unable to control his impulses and made the edit. Thanks for getting rid of it so soon. Ron Stoppable 10:02, August 1, 2005 (UTC)