Talk:List of YouTubers

A significant portion of this article is a list of notable YouTube celebrities who have been discussed in reliable sources. Entries without reliable sources will be removed.

Makemebad35, Kylemonkey, and Boburnham

Why are these 3 not on here? They are youtube gold! Tons of subscribers, 5 stars all around, Bo even has his own album out now! And they put Fred on here? He doesn't even classify as a person compared to these 3! Right the injustice! Add these 3 now! —Preceding unsigned comment added by FOXGEAR (talk • contribs) 05:04, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

SXEPHIL

SXEPHIL should be in here! He's way more subscribers than most of these users. I tried to create DeFranco's profile about 2 months ago, but someone deleted it before I could even finish. I saved the page in case something happened to my computer and while I was collecting more information, the page was gone. All I'm saying is this guy deserves a profile. UncleBobby629 03:42, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Have you looked over WP:BIO? Ichormosquito (talk) 08:41, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Wow.. I thought I was the only one, who thought sXePhil should be added, and yes I agree he needs to be added, here is the NYT Reference for him, just in case someone needs a reference thing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/12/us/12florida.html --FallingDarkness (talk) 22:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Now where exactly is "sXePhil" name mentioned in the New York Time's article "Eight Teenagers Charged in Internet Beating Have Their Day on the Web"? We do actually check these links you know, so don't try to bullshit your way in with a fake reference. --  Netsnipe  ►  15:57, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Go to the page I linked, click "edit" then find in this page and in the "find" bar type Phillip then hit enter. It mentions Phillip Defranco's video about Dr. Phil and the Vicious Eight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FallingDarkness (talk • contribs) 17:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

He should totally be on here. He rocks. I love watching his videos, and he has enough subscribers to get get film sponsors in his videos.PokeHomsar (talk) 16:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

He was on the "Who's who on Youtube" segment of Attack of the show. Link here --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNuRRPyGxAw . I think this make him officially a Youtube celebrities. No discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Girot (talk • contribs) 23:29, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Fred

Somebody needs to put "Fred" on here. I think he is classified as a Youtube star now. Thanks. He also has a deal with some IM thing called Zipit. Hes in their commericals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.238.146.75 (talk) 14:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

He isn't notable outside of YouTube. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 14:23, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Fred really sucks. I really have no clue how he got so many subscribers... Maybe because Zip It advertises him on YouTube videos. Yeah, that's it.PokeHomsar (talk) 03:38, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

I have added him, and an article has been created about him also. He is under Lucas Cruikshank. Arigont (talk) 06:38, 04 July 2008 (UTC)

You added Fred!? NO! He sucks! He has no right to be on the page! He makes unimaginative, crappy vids(though I have no room to talk) yet he is one of the top subscribed? Jesus! —Preceding unsigned comment added by FOXGEAR (talk • contribs) 05:06, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

First set of comments

Mr. Saftey Corey Williams SMP Films

Where is mr saftey! come on man! they have Boh3m3,The Hill, and Lisa Nova! But No SMP!Shark64 02:12, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

• Well, hey Shark64, this is "the encyclopedia anyone can edit." I don't know of Mr. Safety, but if he's a notable subject, then you should start writing.--Absurdist 04:03, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

• Cory Williams requested his article be deleted, apparently after "haters" unhappy with his Wikipedia article called his house. He made a video about the incident, which he followed up with by making his phone number public. As the subject of two mainstream news articles; the creator of the "As One" YouTube gatherings, one of which was the subject of a mainstream news article; and host of The FIZZ, I think he's notable. If you want to get started, you'd need to go to Wikipedia:Deletion review and ask about this: Cory Williams. Although he probably wouldn't mind if his article came back, I'm not starting the process until he gets more coverage. Ichormosquito 05:06, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

This article is screaming, SCREAMING for protection. Ichormosquito 05:06, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

• I tried requesting semi-protection. I guess the anons aren't being disruptive enough.--aBSuRDiST -^T J ^C- 15:34, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

• I tried, too. It'll happen. All we need is a particularly feisty anon, and there's no short supply of those. Ichormosquito 18:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Neil Cicierega

Neil Cicierega was recently added to the list. I'm not sure if he qualifies as his prominance isn't a result of his presence on YouTube. He seems to have already been prominant without it. However, I'm not really familiar with his history, so I'm not removing him.--Absurdist 19:47, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

My first exposure to him was through YouTube. If there's evidence his fame significantly increased because of YouTube, I don't mind his being listed. He's on the Most Subscribed list. Ichormosquito 21:00, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I found it odd that he was here. He'd long been famous for his animutations (I first came into contact with his name about 4 years ago), and even Potter Puppet Pals was long before that, so I'd suggest that any YouTube success he's had is simply building upon his older name recognition. AOEU Warrior 19:36, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm removing him. Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny is at List of Internet phenomena, anyway. Ichormosquito 02:50, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Tay Zonday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA&mode=related&search= I'd say he IS a YouTube celeb. He gets at least 10 comments per hour with Chocolate Rain. Sometimes 30! He should be on the list. Almost eveyone on YouTube has been RainRoll'd!!! YouTube even had it featured!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ladder4321 (talk • contribs)

• Not everything YouTube features is notable, and neither are heavily commented YouTube videos. Third-party sources (not YouTube or sites related to the subject) are needed to establish notability. Anyway, lets see how the speedy deletion of Tay Zonday goes before adding to this list.--aBSuRDiST -^T ☺ ^C- 16:52, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
• That article had a lot of false starts, and vandalism. His notability seems to have been established, and was added to this list a few days ago. --aBSuRDiST -^T ☺ ^C- 02:37, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

SWEET. He has a page now lol. I knew he'd be here eventually. That's kool. Ladder4321 19:34, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Ryan Wieber

How come Ryan Wieber isn't on there because of Ryan vs. Dorkman?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jm479 (talk • contribs)

• I'm surprised that Ryan Wieber hasn't been through afd. The article doesn't cite any third-party stories on the subject. All the footnotes and external links are primary sources.--aBSuRDiST -^T ☺ ^C- 17:00, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

DaxFlame

He has over 100 blog videos and is recognized by a lot of people as a Youtube celebrity. Which get thousands of views and comments with each video. So can somebody please make an article for him and add him to the list. I don't know why he isn't on there. (not signed)

Daxflame is definitely a phenomenon on sites such as 4chan, having spawned many an image macro with his quotes and images from videos such as tapeface and the 'block and swipe' video regarding G4. I think he should be included on this page. 63.197.134.209 19:32, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

You need to make an article about daxflame before he can be listed. To do that, you will need to take your case of daxflame's notability to WP:Deletion review, as his page has already been deleted on more than one occasion and, as of now, cannot be recreated. I would wait until he gets more attention outside of YouTube first, however, so that his article can satisfy the guidelines at WP:NOTE. Ichormosquito 22:05, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Can you do that? Wikipedia confuses me in so many ways. I personally don't know how do those kinds of things.

I want to, seeing as how his videos take less than a week to get over 100,000 views; but his article would still need sources. As soon as he turns up enough Google news hits, I or someone else will be sure to get one up. Ichormosquito 07:53, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

It would also be hard to write the article, as it's hard to know if he's faking it or not. But still, he has 55,000 subscribers, so I think he deserves an article. He's a lot more famous than most of the people that already are on the list.--The monkeyhate 21:03, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

It's been proven that it's fake, his name is Madison, there are pictures of when he was younger, and if you watch his earlier stuff his "Mom" calls him Bernice, but later ones he tells people his name isn't Bernice, meaning his mom would've been told to say Bernice, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.60.101.245 (talk) 03:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

DCLugi?

He Should be on here? Bobo6balde66 15:40, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

He needs an article first. I can't find any secondary sources to his name, so creating a verifiable article will be difficult. He might fulfill WP:WEB enough for a stub, given that Super Deluxe hosts his content; but this argument would be a tough sell at AfD. And if his notability will only hinge on Super Deluxe, I'm not sure he could be classified as a YouTube celebrity. Ichormosquito 18:13, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

But he could be on that list couldnt he? Bobo6balde66 14:45, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Move?

I suggest moving this list to List of articles about YouTube celebrities or List of Wikipedia articles about YouTube celebrities. As a list of Wikipedia articles it might discourage the addition of redlinks etc. What does everybody think?--aBSuRDiST -^T ☺ ^C- 02:13, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I would not support such a move. I don't think this is intended to be a list of YouTube celebs with Wikipedia articles but a list of notable YouTube celebs. We're using the existence of a Wikipedia article as a proxy for notability. If someone were to add a new person to this list with several good sources, I'd argue for retaining the addition despite the header and practice of only accepting those with articles.

If we just wanted a list of YouTube celebs *only* with articles, then it would be far easier to just add them all to a category and be done with it. --ElKevbo 03:13, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree with ElKevbo on this one. List of Wikipedia articles about YouTube celebrities = Category:YouTube video producers. See List of Internet phenomena for an example of what ElKevbo's talking about: though they're all sourced, not all the entries on that list have corresponding articles. What I'm wondering is if a page about YouTube celebrity in general could exist separately from List of YouTube celebrities, like how Internet memes does from List of internet phenomena. Ichormosquito 03:39, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Brotherhood 2.0

I suggest adding Hank Green, the writer of "Accio Deathly Hallows," which has over 700,000 views and was featured on youtube. He and his brother, author John Green, have a system where they alternate posting a video blog every weekday to each other as their only means of communication during 2007. Called Brotherhood 2.0, it has gotten to be very popular, especially after Accio Deathly Hallows, and thus made the two, and particularly Hank, overnight internet--and specifically YouTube--celebrities. Hank was even asked to contribute to a Harry Potter article in the New York Times because of his vlog. I'm working on a wiki for Hank, trying to make sure it is worth adding, but in the meantime I want to add him on here, if there are no objections. Comments? Jax

Please cite some very good sources or create a Wikipedia article (with very good sources) before adding anyone to this list. In other words, establish that the person(s) is notable. --ElKevbo 04:29, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

If you want to make an article, look over WP:NOTE to see what kind of sources you will need. If you decide the subject doesn't fit the guidelines listed, show us what sources the subject does have; and we might be able to list him without a corresponding article. Ichormosquito 09:18, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

This list is absurd

• how does wikipedia measure the notable of any of these vloggers ? i am interested to hear discussion over why this list means standards Apelike 19:58, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

• I'm not 100% sure, but I would say by either total views, subscribers, or channel views. ÇɧĭДfrĪĔпd12 02:44, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
• The notability of each vlogger is determined by the amount of non-trivial coverage of the subject in reliable third-party sources (see WP:BIO and WP:RS). If the subject has little or no third-party coverage then the articles are deleted, and/or they aren't included in this list. This is done on a case-by-case basis, as with all Wikipedia articles.--aBSuRDiST -^T ☺ ^C- 16:11, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

• which is complete BS; the whole point of YouTube is that 'unknown' people can broadcast their creations, and if enough people watch, they become 'known'. Using outside sources to signify the notability of YouTube people is completely hypocritical. The only way that this page can be legitimate is if it is determined by total views, subscribers, and channel views. Jpq21 (talk) 21:03, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I am amused that Absurdist replied in this particular thread. :) --ElKevbo 16:13, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

The Turks

There is a theesome, Volkan Öge, Tansu Tunçel and Ömür Cedimağar by name, who made two videos and have appeared in famous talk shows (like Beyaz Show) and newspapers like Radikal [1] or even Hürriyet [2] wrote about them ([3], [4]) . the three guys transformed French songs into something different: Sütü seven kamyoncu (The milk loving truck driver) - originally si tu savais combien, and Bana kitap al (Buy me a book) - originally Ne me quitee pa. Funny thingies, if you know turkish. What I wanted to say is that there is not a single young turk who wouldn't know these YouTube celebs, so they might deserve an article - but how shall i do it? It's a group but they don't have a name. --Teemeah Gül Bahçesi 12:55, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Very interesting. Maybe you can call it "Bates Motel Productions"? From what I can tell from their YouTube channel, it's what they call themselves. I can't read Turkish, though, so I can't speak to their notability. The sources seem legit enough. Ichormosquito 04:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Edgar's Fall (la caida de edgar)

Edgar was a world phenomenon in early YouTube, he appeared on CNN, BBS, became one of the most watched videos in Japan, Russia, England, China, Brazil, appearing later in interviews, commercials, YouTube users made their own versions, remixes. Why this little boy became so famous? it's a mistery. but we cannot deny his famous breakthrough because of YouTube.

You're right, it is a mystery. 4 million views because some hapless 7-year-old has a sadistic friend? But the video seems to have received coverage: [5] [6] [7] Here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b89CnP0Iq30. Its demonstrable effect on the YouTube community: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=la+caida+de+edgar&search=Search The obvious Star Wars themed parody: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0Y5sTchMYs. See what they say at Talk:List of Internet phenomena. If we don't make an article about it, we can always list it with a few of the sources. Ichormosquito 04:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Google Mexico recenty featured Edgar, referring to him as " El famoso Edgar le da la Bienvenida a Youtube México!!". Here's the link: http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=3oVSlNf0unI I think we should list him. Ichormosquito 22:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Natalie a.k.a. Communitychannel ?

Hi, I noticed that Natalie, username communitychannel wasn't on this list, but I think she should be. She is both a director and a partner on YouTube and her video blogs have received a ton of honors. What are your thoughts? --Drenched 06:03, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I say add her and add WHATTHEBUCKSHOW/Peron75 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.176.132.95 (talk) 13:28, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Add her. She plays different characters like Christine Gambito, a.k.a. HappySlip and do it very good. She is #31 - Most Subscribed (All Time) and #23 - Most Subscribed (All Time) - Directors. --Adler 71 16:54, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

No mention of Chris Crocker or Michael Buckley?

These guys are pretty well known, from It's Chris Croker and the What the Buck? Show. Seems strange that there should be no mention of them. McLarenJAB 17:30, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

The Stranger (newspaper) ran a fairly comprehensive piece on Crocker recently, but one source isn't enough for an article. There needs to be evidence of sustained coverage. Ichormosquito 00:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

OK, folks

If this article is going to stay, I think it needs a radical change. There needs to be more information about YouTube celebrity in general. Ichormosquito 03:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

We should probably categorize the celebs, as well. 3 categories I can think of are "serials", "musicians", and some basic vlogger category. Ichormosquito 03:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

GiR2007 (James Provan)

James needs a page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.224.144.241 (talk) 20:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

If you want to bring it back, first look over this page: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Provan. If you find fault with the arguments presented, take your case to WP:Deletion review. Your luck there will depend on how many reliable sources you can find. Ichormosquito 02:13, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Name Change

I'm sorry, maybe I'm missing something, but why exactly was the page moved from List of YouTube celebrities to YouTube celebriries? Calgary 19:57, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Editors suggested we do so at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of YouTube celebrities, probably to hit home the argument that "YouTube celebrity" is a sourced phenomenon and can sustain its own article. I could go either way. Ichormosquito 23:46, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Smosh

Smosh is obvious and should be on the list. They have the most subscribed to channel on youtube. http://youtube.com/members?s=ms&t=a&g=0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.60.148.133 (talk) 04:07, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you know who are Ian Hecox and Anthony Padilla? Onur T^contribs 22:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

OK WOW BUTTCRACK,smosh is on,THY LIST! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.11.200.147 (talk) 19:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Communitychannel

Hey I noticed that Natalie aka Communitychannel isn't on the list and I think that with 35,737 subscribers & #31 Most subscribed of all time & #22 Most subscribed Directors that she deserves to be on the list of Youtube Celebrities, what do you guys think?--67.174.128.249 01:38, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I love her. Can you find citations about her in the Australian press? Ichormosquito 01:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

i add her yesterday some one delete it, i just re-added her --Dillio411 23:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

And until you provide references we'll continue to delete her; please see WP:V. --ElKevbo 23:56, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately even though she is clearly a Youtube Celebrity she hasn't been cited in any Australian Press and so she can't be on the list, which is unfortunate.--67.174.128.249 00:08, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

she was mentioned on nbc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gg-UeOZ0co&feature=related and australia pc http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;1822699123;img;1397 ? Scissorsnjam (talk) 11:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Charlieissocoollike

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/somerset/7022544.stm in 5 month's he's had over 14,000 subscribers

he's been featured on BBC, he's going to be on the View in ABC

What do you think?

04:36, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

I guess we could list him. Where's the media love for paperlilies?! Ichormosquito 09:17, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

i think with the whole internet zombie movie (http://www.bbc.co.uk/zombies/) paperlilies deserves a spot on the list.Ehsteve23 (talk) 22:53, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Kevjumba!

If half of those are YouTube celebrities, then comedian Kevin Wu, a.k.a. KevJumba definitely should be on here. He is the number one subscribed comedian all time - http://www.youtube.com/members?s=ms&t=a&g=2--172.215.99.177 19:12, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

You might find this interesting: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kevjumba. So far as I know, Kevjumba hasn't been mentioned in the mainstream media. Ever. He even has his own website Articles need reliable sources. As things stand right now, you'd have better luck petitioning the New York Times to write a feature about Kevjumba than you would pushing an unsourced Wikipedia article about him. Find reliable sources and we'll be in business. Ichormosquito 20:29, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

You can't find half of the users on this page in any media outside YouTube. m w 04:39, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Matthew Lush (GayGod)

Is he notable enough for Wikipedia? Onur T^contribs 23:40, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Common sense says yes, but we really shouldn't list someone as a YouTube celebrity until a reliable source has referred to him as such. The list would spiral out of control. Ichormosquito 02:57, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

What about his ranking on Stickam and photo with Jeffree Star? Onur T^contribs 15:59, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

I still think we should hold out for reliable sources. Ichormosquito 15:33, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I might have found one. Ichormosquito 19:17, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

need references

the fallowing need references: Yousef Abu-Taleb a.k.a. danielbeast from lonelygirl15, The Whogasm girls, Wei Wei of the Back Dormitory Boys, Smosh, Sam Norman, a.k.a. Samwell, creator and performer of "What What (In the Butt)", Rhett McLaughlin of Rhett and Link, Olde English, Luke Johnson, of the Luke Johnson Phone Experiment, Andy McKee, Liam Kyle Sullivan, a.k.a. liamkylesullivan, a.k.a. "Kelly" (The Shoes Song), James Rolfe, a.k.a. the Angry Video Game Nerd, Erik Mongrain, and Andy McKee --Dillio411 18:03, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Most of them have references in their respective articles, but we should make the effort to import. There might be one or two we'll have to remove from the list. Ichormosquito 09:55, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Youtube Partners

Since partners all seem to have a large amount of subscribers or be well known does anybody else think they might deserve to be added to the list? Just an idea.--67.174.128.249 (talk) 22:39, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Whogasm

Are they really "celebrities"? There was only one video, (at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLnk-A1OkKk) which received less than 22,000 views, two orders of magnitude less than some of the others, and their notability seems to have been extremely temporary, limited to June 2007. • Anakin ^{(contribs • complaints)} 00:25, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

They're probably not celebrities. Ichormosquito (talk) 21:50, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

gaydiamond

wouldnt user gaydiamond be a notable celeberty? she has hundreds of thousands of veiws and many parodys about her  Sub!  01:49, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Does she have sources? Ichormosquito (talk) 21:51, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

MRirian

MRirian 10,288 Suscribers 760,789 Channel views Most of her videos gain at least 200,000 views. Over half of her videos have at least 800 comments.

I would say this YouTube user, although a bit strange, qualifies to have her name on the list.SacredX (talk) 23:03, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

This is my favorite YouTuber after TheHill88, but we can't list her without sources. Ichormosquito (talk) 08:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I would say that MRirian is now due to an entry in the list. A lot of things have changed since the last entry here. She has now become a Youtube Partner and there are different reliable sources outside of Youtube. (Printmedia) She had two interviews with the japanese edition of weekly playboy, the first on 02/09/2008 and the second in the april edition. There are 2 videos on Youtube who let you browse in this edition. More info about it in my MRirian FAQ: http://home.arcor.de/firithfenion/faq.html (TV) MRirian was also invited by the japanese TV-Staion GYAO to japan and had an appearance on the TV-Show. There are videos about this show on Youtube. Here is a website on GYAO: http://www.gyao.jp/news/magibon/ Subtitled versions of this japanese TV-Show with MRirian as guest are available at the YT Channel of Forryga: http://www.youtube.com/user/forryga --Firithfenion (talk) 22:42, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Corey, Melbourne party-boy

Not sure we should list him, as his article has already been deleted over BLP concerns. I hesitate even giving his last name. Here's a valid source, though: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article3198418.ece Ichormosquito (talk) 04:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

He did not gain attention due to videos posted on youtube. It may have helped, but that wasn't the main reason he got attention.--Seriousspender (talk) 16:20, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

davedays Should Be In Here

Davedays should be on this page, and he has a pretty good case in favor of adding him to it. To start, he's a youtube partner. He over 19,000 subscribers and 629,314 channel views. His "I've Got A Crush On Hillary" video has been seen by almost 600,000 people in just one week.His most viewed video has been seen 3,178,789 times. He has no videos under 3 1/2 stars and the majority of his videos range from 4-5 stars. Not to mention, his multiple appearences on National tv. His video appeared on MSNBC when it was discovered and a few days following that he appeared again on MSNBC to give an interview.Then theres the talent he possesses,most of his videos are songs and the mastery of his guitar playing and singing actually in my opinion and in the opinion of the many users who comment on his videos should be utilized in an actual band not just for comedic songs. However he truly has a gift for composing great lyrics and the rhetoric in his songs)whether intentional or not)is nothing short of mind blowing.Davedays is truly a youtube celebrity and he's only gonna get better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.163.165.92 (talk) 02:46, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

How did Pat Condell get added?

How did he get on here without any discussion? Just about every other name on that list was discussed yet he wasn't? I mean, compared to Chris Crocker, kevjumba, WHATTHEBUCKSHOW, and DAXFlame, he's pretty low on the subscribers list, or world-news sources discussing him. Despite the lack of popularity, hype (as in number of news sources talking about him), or even number of videos (all compared to the above), he made the list. It doesn't make much sense that he gets onto the list when the rest of the pack, outrunning him, doesn't. Anyone know what the deal is? Paladin Hammer (talk) 19:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Another note, his entry was added: 15:37, 15 December 2007 76.20.226.239 . So we are letting non-wiki members not only edit youtube, but avoid discussion altogether? All I'm saying is that the article doesn't make a lot of sense if we aren't applying some kind of rules to how someone on youtube is considered a "celebrity". Paladin Hammer (talk) 19:40, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Page protection

I'm locking down this page for one year. Hopefully it'll make keeping this list free of every wanna-be celebrity spam easier. Wikipedia IS NOT a soapbox for you to increase your channel views. It's an encyclopaedia. If your YouTube video or channel hasn't been mentioned by a major news or media outlet, then it's simply NOT NOTABLE and has no place on this list. Our Wikipedia:Reliable sources and Wikipedia:Notability (web) policies are very strict on this. --  Netsnipe   ►  10:13, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Needs some Turkish users I think

Without batesmotelpro, Mehmet Kurt is famous with his Lost parody featured others called "Höst" and also Öykü-Berk Gürman siblings are featured on Mainstream Turkish Media with a flamenco style türkü[8]. Plus Toaana (Actually, She's from Germany but she claims that she is Turkish like de:Grup Tekkan). What about copyrighted videos of Turkish TV series? OnurT^contribs 18:16, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Rhett and Link?

Why aren't Rhett and Link listed here? They seem like famous people to me.

Why is Gary Brolsma listed?

As it says in his own damn article, the Numa Numa video was created (and thus gained acclaim from) NewGrounds years before YouTube itself existed. This is -not- a place to list anyone from anywhere who has become popular via videos, but through YouTube's publicity! Gary was only featured once on YouTube - and that was from his new (highly unpopular!) new video. I sense idiocy afoot. Melaisis (talk) 16:11, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Now where's NigaHiga?

Nigahiga, or Ryan Higa, is the 2nd most subscribed comedian on Youtube (originally the first but pushed down by Smosh who changed category to Comedian) and the third most subscribed of all time. He is most noted for his "How to be" videos together with Sean Fujiyoshi (Fujiboi) and his Soulja Boi parodies (in particular Yank Dat Cameltoe). Somebody oughta put him in here, even though he doesn't have any magazine articles about him as far as I know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alebeska (talk • contribs) 15:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Notability (web) is very strict about references. We simply make NO EXCEPTIONS on this or else everyone and their dog will be adding themselves to this list. --  Netsnipe  ►  16:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Do these youtube awards count for anything?

1. 3 - Most Subscribed (All Time)
2. 2 - Most Subscribed (All Time) - Comedians
3. 3 - Most Subscribed (All Time)
4. 2 - Most Subscribed (All Time) - Comedians
5. 22 - Most Viewed (All Time)
6. 2 - Most Viewed (All Time) - Comedians

64.136.181.98 (talk) 20:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

sXephil has been added

I added sXe Phil along with the reference and the reference is a reliable source. On the reference page (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/12/us/12florida.html) on your top tool bar click "edit" then click "find in this page" and type "Phil" in the find bar. Hit enter and it should bring you to the paragraph where Defranco is mentioned.

--FallingDarkness (talk) 22:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Removed because a simple mention in an article nothing to do with the user is not real coverage. You need an article on the user, not a 1 sentence mention.--YooTuba (talk) 11:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, in that case I'm done with trying to add sXephil, I gave it my best shot, but there doesn't seem to be enough to add him I guess.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FallingDarkness (talk • contribs) 16:54, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Found an article ON sXephil: http://www.adaeveningnews.com/editorials/local_story_112204047.html?keyword=topstory -- It is about the same topic he gained fame for in the New York Times article, except the whole article is about him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PokeHomsar (talk • contribs) 03:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

So, apparently, Lisa Nova gets to be on the list without references, but the 11th most subscribed member on YouTube can't. How does that make sense? By saying they need references, and Lisa Nova doesn't have references, you're making an exception. Why not for sXephil? Because he wasn't in a Smosh video?PokeHomsar (talk) 08:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Found another article: http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/10/06/is-philip-defranco-the-heir-to-the-zefrank-crown/ PokeHomsar (talk) 11:29, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

He shouldn't be on here. He is only known by some YouTuber users. The articles he is in only mention quotes from his show. The articles are not about him or what he has done on YouTube. I think he should be removed from the list. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 18:49, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

He's not only known by a few... He has over 130,000 subscribers... Also Kelly does not have any references, and she's only known by a few as well.PokeHomsar (talk) 20:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

He was on the "Who's who on Youtube" segment of Attack of the show. Link here --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNuRRPyGxAw . I think this make him officially a Youtube celebrities. Just add him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Girot (talk • contribs) 23:34, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Öykü-Berk Gürman Siblings

I started an article about them in Turkish wiki. Should they be added to there? OnurT^contribs 18:42, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Added OnurT^contribs 20:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Tourettes Guy

This guy has is in alot of videos in a series by the same name. Seems to be filmed by son, but up by a friend. All the videos have more than 2 million view. Not on Youtube anymore, died 2 years ago in a car accidnet, was in the national news. Im busy right now so Id like someone to look into it. He also might be on the list, but I wasnt paying attention. He has sources, and his kid is has a website dedicate to him. 20:26, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Judson laipply?!?!

Only about the most famous youtuber ever... he made evolution of dance which has the most views of any video on youtube. Why isnt he on the list????????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bosox38schilling (talk • contribs) 05:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC) I definately agree he should be on the list —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bosox38schilling (talk • contribs) 05:36, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I can't believe no1 even mentioned him yet! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bosox38schilling (talk • contribs) 16:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

The point of this list.

Is the idea of this article to list users who have gained fame outside of YouTube? If that is the case then names without their own pages should be removed because they are not notable enough. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 14:29, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

duncan construction prank phone calls

Frank Garrett is a construction worker used for prank phone calls. his voice was taken from some prank phone calls, and has somewhat of a cult following. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.96.113 (talk) 19:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:CITE? Also see: WP:WEB. --TwentiethApril1986 19:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

hey

someone needs to put "rtdancingqueen" in she is so famous--Fmrtw (talk) 22:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC) source:rtdancingqueen herself

She only has 21 subscribers and only YouTube links come up in results from Google search.. So no, she isn't famous. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 22:36, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

James Rolfe

James Rolfe, or, the Angry Video Game Nerd, needs to be mentioned. He has his own wikipedia page, his site is cinnemassacre and he's affiliated with screwattack and gametrailers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.160.234.21 (talk) 14:48, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

sXephl Removed Again...

Why does someone keep removing Philip DeFranco? He's a YouTube celebrity, we have 3-4 references, he was even quoted in the New York Times (no matter how much I hate it, the most read newspaper in America,) and there's many that want him on the list. Just add him already.PokeHomsar (talk) 05:57, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I put him back on the page with four references. I think that should suffice. PokeHomsar (talk) 07:05, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

The NY Times just quote him from one of his videos, the article doesn't mention what he does and if he is big on YT. Again with the Ada Evening News link, just quotes him. The "AOTS - Sxephil Bio" video has been taken down. I'm not really sure about the TechCrunch link.

"YouTube celebrities are those persons or groups who have grown to prominence and become Internet phenomena on the basis of their appearance in YouTube videos." Phil isn't really an Internet phenomena. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 13:42, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

He's the ninth most subscribed person on YouTube, having more subscribers than most on this list. To be quoted in the New York Times is something... And the AOTS thing is still up. He's better than most.PokeHomsar (talk) 03:34, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes it's all good being notable inside YT but outside of that no one knows about him. Yeah quoted in the NY Times about what he was saying in his video but he didn't have a whole section about him. Just because you got your name mentioned in a paper, doesn't make you notable. People would have forgot his name by now. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 04:21, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Shay Carl and Clip Critics

Well, both of them have gone to As One YouTube gatherings, so they're obviously somewhat big...PokeHomsar (talk) 03:35, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you understand what the list is about. Just because they went to 'As One' that doesn't make them notable. --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 04:18, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

They're both YouTube partners, i.e. they get advertising money from YouTube. That makes them notable in it of itself.PokeHomsar (talk) 05:39, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Only if you can show how Youtube's criteria for such involves a high degree of notability or implied notability. Analogously, not everyone in a TV commercial gets on Wikipedia, because you don't need to be notable to get on a TV commercial. Getting advertising money does not imply notability by itself. --149.4.211.210 (talk) 21:23, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I really think that Mikey Davis, mooshinana77661991, really should be added to this list!!!!!!!!!!

I have got reliable sources right here telling me he is popular on youtube, I typed in his name on youtube and actually found two videos of girls saying they are in love with him, also he has I think 120 videos or so, of original funny content that gets thousands of views, and are still being viewed, every time i go to his Bored Emo Guy video there's more and more comments and views, other videos are Mr. Smilez, The Emo Love For A Resse's Peanut Butter Cup, The Emo Food Competition, and there are others too, he is really funny and has ALOT of talent, everyone I know watches his videos and are in love with him, you NEED to put him on here, he's great! Also from what I have heard, he has ALOT of obsessive girls writing to him everyday, they say they want his babies, you should really add him to this he's pretty popular with teenagers and girls, and your insane if you don't add him, because he is an inspiration and a hero to people, even read his comments on Bored Emo Guy, they all say he's their hero! I also found out that he had a guy offer him a sponsorship deal or something, to do stand up comedy around Illinois, because of his videos. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.203.121.129 (talk) 14:36, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Are you having a laugh? --TwentiethApril1986 (talk) 15:13, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

What are you talking about? Having a laugh????? He is really awesome! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.203.121.129 (talk) 15:19, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Show some sources, and he may be added. Because I've never heard of him.72.92.93.216 (talk) 15:31, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

YES!! ok....so this guy is pretty much like an obsessive girl magnet, like, girls really don't think he's hott, alot do but on this video they are kind of obsessed with his comedy more, you do not have to be hott to be a youtube celeb. so here it is...http://youtube.com/watch?v=LFlmSOSmn4s, also another one, this one is a little bit stalkerish, but hey i guess I'm a stalker too cuz i knew about this video by typing his name in so whatever, but it's some girl, don't know who, just filming his bored emo guy video...http://youtube.com/watch?v=7n59KZXPwbw, Now in these videos, they don't have millions or even thousands of views, but you can tell, he's liked by alot! And if he was not liked by alot, why would somebody(me) be fighting for him to be put on wikipedia, there's a thought right there. He also plays bass in a band, I know that isn't helping him to be on this list, but I wanted mention that cuz I think it is sexy hahaha, his comedy on youtube is so original and amazing though!

Mark Day

Mark Day is a hilarious blogger that talks about stuff. He is a YouTube partner (gets paid for his videos.) MarkDayComedy is his YouTube name.72.92.93.216 (talk) 18:40, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Chadwardenn

Chadwardenn is a wannabe gangster who uses false facts about the Playstation 3 (which he calls the PSTriple which is sometimes used to mock the system beecause of him). He deleted his account a few months ago after 200+ video responses and joke videoes insulting him. He is also a common theme in "Youtube Poops". I think Chadwardenn should be added to this list. SmroWofnaC (talk) 09:39, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Magibon

Magibon, a.k.a Mririan should be added to the list. -76.88.241.101 (talk) 07:41, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

What happens on religion?

What happens when you've got a really popular character everyone knows but no mass media wants to talk about him due to his religion attack oriented videos and nickname? Is he less popular because of that? Then why you deleted his article when it actually had one reliable source? Are you afraid of satanizing Wikipedia then? Or is it because he's Mexican and non-notable as all non-US citizen are? That's how you see it isn't it? Now seems everyone with no other talent that sleeping with their eyes closed will have an article on Wikipedia. Seems he's right about all this then. You should watch El Anticristo's video about Bush then. It describes you perfectly. --Fluence (talk) 03:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Judson Laipply

I do not understand why the creator of the most viewed Youtube video is on here. He really has achieved celebrity status by now.

Mamaluigi86 (talk) 23:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)Mamaluigi86Mamaluigi86 (talk) 23:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

sXephil Removed Again?

Why did you remove sXephil again? He's been added and removed multiple times. Just let him stay on the list already.71.175.197.100 (talk) 15:54, 29 July 2008 (UTC)