Talk:The Sims 3/Archive 1

If you're going to use that citation for the developer, it needs to be EA Redwood Shores

I have seen the name of the developer changed many times, but they still use the same source, a record from gamestop listing the developer as EA Redwood Shores. Either the name or the source needs to be changed, because they don't match up.

False Citations

Someone put that sims could go barefoot, with a citation so people would think it is true. The citation goes the the official site, where it says nothing of this. Please remember that placing these false-citations in order to prove a point is a form of vandalism, and I will report the next user or IP to do this. Johnnywalterboy (talk) 04:46, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

When the citation was added there was a page on the site which clearly showed a barefooted sim. That page has since been changed when the site was updated. The citation was merely out of date rather than an act of vandalism. 196.209.202.105 (talk) 19:11, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Spelling and grammar issues

There are some issues with this page. People are putting "gameplay", when gameplay is not a word. Please put game play or game-play.

Gameplay is spelled correctly, or at the very least, it's commonly known and acceptable. -- Lyverbe (talk) 13:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Massive lack of sources, Please Delete

... Even though you reverted it, its still going to need sources. Otherwise it's going to be deleted anyway. Carlo V. Sexron 01:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Please fix the references. Baaaaw 14:56 12 March 2008 (GMT)

Page Crash

Every time I try to get onto this page, my IE window crashes. 80.43.38.108 14:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

IE, lol. 58.165.27.1 (talk) 08:54, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Criterion Software?

The article says that Criterion is developing the game. I found several web sites that mentioned this, but their own website is totally silent about this. So it seems unlikely that they are really developing it. Maxis itself is a development studio and The Sims is their flagship product. It seems more likely that they are developing it and Criterion is providing some technical support (if, for example, they are using RenderWare as their graphics engine). Can someone find a verifiable (and accurate) reference for this statement? Otherwise I say it needs to be removed and it should be assumed that Maxis is developing the game. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 14:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I only get ONE real hit for "Criterion" and "The Sims 3" (the rest are for "The Sims 3" and "criteria"). It is a Sims fansite, here, totally unreliable. No press releases, nothing on Criterion's website, nada. Therefore, I'm removing it and changing it to Maxis. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 14:30, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Some editors keep coming in and adding Criterion and RenderWare back into the article without references. Without verifiable references, it didn't happen. Leave it out until it has a reference. Like I said above, I can't find any reliable reference that supports either RenderWare or Criterion. If you have a reference for either, great. Add it back in, but include the reference. Until then, I will keep reverting the changes. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 19:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Maxis is hard at work on Spore. It's highly unlikely that they will be working on The Sims 3 as well. All "The Sims" games are now made by "The Sims Division", which is a department created within EA and headed by Rod Humble. I'll try and find a source for that... -- JayTee

Actually we don't know who is working in The Sims 3, it is better put "TBA" in the developer line. Razor 18:00 Brazilian time, march 22, 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.207.145.101 (talk) 21:00, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Great, all we need is a reference. Last time I talked to Virg, she said she had transferred from The Sims to Spore, so it's possible they outsourced this product ("outsourced" to another EA studio). But without a ref, it's just a rumor. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 18:44, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

The Site is Down...

...has anyone noticed? It is down! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.238.88.55 (talk) 14:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

No it's not. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 16:45, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

There were a lot of technical issues on the first couple days. The site crashed for lots of people. It seems to be fixed for the most part. Phoenix1304 (talk) 18:23, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

For me, it just wouldn't display, but reloading would fix it. -- Noneofyourbusiness (talk) 22:23, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Maxis or Redwood Shores?

Yes, i previouslly here Maxis was on the development of The Sims 3, and now i see EA Redwood Shores, i don't understand. who is developing, EA Redwood Shores or Maxis? help me please! (i think it is better put TBA.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.207.145.101 (talk • contribs)

Maxis is the part of EA Redwood Shores. (look here - Maxis) --Monthstay (talk) 12:11, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

While they were acquired Maxis refers to the team who works with Will Wright, in most cases, rather than an actual developer. The official developer most game sites have is EA Redwood Shores, which is the Sims division of EA. Maxis, the name, is not used at all and is not the developer. Source: http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=company&mode=79643&sort=title&letter=T&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc 71.96.70.197 (talk) 19:07, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Console release?

Did EA specify if this game will be released for consoles yet or not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sage1989 (talk • contribs) 17:12, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

The best place to check for this type of information is The Sims 3 website linked to in the article. That being said, no. But, FWIW, the site doesn't say anything about what platform the game will be released for, but generally everyone assumes Windows, I guess. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 17:19, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Engine and Developer?

Wait, TS3 is using RenderWare as the graphics engine? Since when?? Also, has nobody read the Games For Windows article on TS3 and could possibly tell us who is developing TS3? Presumably it would be Maxis but it could be EA redwood or some other studio, unverified report gives it as being Criterion (which makes no sense whatsoever) and rampant speculation has given way to the possibility that TS3 is being developed by a 3rd party. I'm guessing the game magazine coverage of TS3 would clear up who the developer actually is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.215.187.40 (talk) 18:47, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Umm... the developer is Maxis! and... i think it is really the RenderWare. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.92.89.171 (talk) 19:56, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Maxis refers to the team who works with Will Wright, in most cases, rather than an actual developer. The official developer most game sites have is EA Redwood Shores, which is the Sims division of EA. Maxis, the name, is not used at all and is not the developer. Source: http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=company&mode=79643&sort=title&letter=T&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc 71.96.70.197 (talk) 19:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Can Maxis really be considered the developer?

This is to add to 74.215.187.40's concern.

Maxis.com now only redirects to the Spore website. No articles about this game even mention that Maxis is developing it, including this article's references.[1][2] Not to mention that none of the recent Sim games have the Maxis symbol either. I do not feel that this article should assume that the Maxis subsidiary, specifically, is working on this game. Given the available public information, we only know that some part of EA is working on it, and nothing more. To assume that the same developer who made previous games in the series has been shown incorrect in cases such as SimCity Societies.

Therefore, I feel that the Developer box should not specify a subsidiary, whether that means to simply have it say "Electronic Arts" or have it ommitted until more solid evidence of the developer is made publically available. --C. Raleigh (talk) 19:06, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Sure, as I mentioned above. I feel more comfortable leaving it blank until we hear specifically who worked on it. But EA isn't exactly forthcoming about who develops their individual products (for example, do you know who developed Rise of the Witch King and Kane's Wrath? It wasn't EA-Los Angeles, but they take the credit). If you feel obligated to put in a developer, I'm fine with EA Games. I won't touch it, but it would be nice to find out who really developed it. EA is a big entity and just saying "EA Games" is about as specific as saying you live in "America" as opposed to "123 Maple Tree Way, Gable Groves, CA". — Frecklefσσt | Talk 12:27, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Maxis refers to the team who works with Will Wright, in most cases, rather than an actual developer. The official developer most game sites have is EA Redwood Shores, which is the Sims division of EA. Maxis, the name, is not used at all and is not the developer. Source: http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=company&mode=79643&sort=title&letter=T&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc 71.96.70.197 (talk) 19:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Wrong company infos !

Maxis is dead since they are in EA, since 2007 the Maxis logo was removed from The Sims franchise ! It's no longer Maxis but it's EA Games only. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.52.208.241 (talk) 13:12, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I am completely aware of this, as pointed out in my comment below. If EA themselves no longer consider Maxis as the developer, so should this article. I am not certain why Frecklefoot is insistant on reverting the developer entry, as there is clearly not enough evidence supporting the current implication that Maxis is being credited as its own entity. I may discuss this issue with Frecklefoot or the Sims WikiProject later on. --C. Raleigh (talk) 03:02, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Pssh. Okay, I guess I miss the idea of Maxis getting credit for their own products, even though they are now a wholly-owned subsidiary of EA (and have been for a long time). I thought they still got separate development credit for the Sim products (and MobyGames says they do too). But go ahead and put the EA Games stuff back in, I won't touch it. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 12:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I understand what Frecklefoot is saying. I myself wish the original Maxis was still the one responsible for the Sims series, but now the Sims team is completely assimilated with EA. At least we still have Will Wright's Spore team, which does still have some degree of autonomous control from EA. I also think EA is now crediting the Spore team as the new Maxis (since Wright is in it), though I cannot say for sure. --C. Raleigh (talk) 17:16, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

So you wrote wrong infos, why you don't put the name all the companies bought by EA ;) ? Actually the original Maxis team doesn't completely work on the Sims series, I think most of them works on Spore so it's mainly the EA team who works on the Sims franchise, it's more logical to put the EA Games name instead of Maxis, don't you think ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.247.125.69 (talk) 22:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Maxis refers to the team who works with Will Wright, in most cases, rather than an actual developer. The official developer most game sites have is EA Redwood Shores, which is the Sims division of EA. Maxis, the name, is not used at all and is not the developer. Source: http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=company&mode=79643&sort=title&letter=T&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc 71.96.70.197 (talk) 19:12, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

The Sims 3 on PS3

An anonymous user keeps on adding PlayStation 3 to the platforms that the game will be released on. I've been reverting the edits because the user doesn't provide a proper source for this information (well, no source at all) but has anyone actually heard any specific info about this? All I've heard is that the "franchise" is being released on Wii and PS3 though didn't specifically state "The Sims 3". Swanny92 (talk) 12:09, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I remember reading an interview of the game concerning multiple platforms, and the interviewee stated that at this point the developer is focusing on making the game "the best it can be," so that implies that they are only concerned with the PC version at the moment. --C. Raleigh (talk) 20:32, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I doubt the game can be ported verbatim to any game consoles. The game is really designed for use with a mouse. As can be seen with the current console titles, they use the same brand, but are different games. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 16:29, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Now there's a proof the game will also be Released on PS3 and X360.
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/strategy/thesims3/index.html and http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/strategy/thesims3/index.html. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.68.8.165 (talk) 16:22, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I hardly call that "proof", but rather assumptions on GameSpot's part. There is no reliable evidence that it is slated for either platform. I'd wait for a press release or some other official announcement by EA. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 16:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. I just removed it from the platform list, as further information and less assumption is needed.Sage1989 (talk) 16:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Good external source

Lots of juicy info here: http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/sims-3/307400-latest-sims-3-news.htmlAutonova (talk) 13:32, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Release date

December 15th, 2009 is the release date for The Sims 3, you can found it here: http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager.offset=3&cId=3168651 -- Iblis Trigger (talk) 11:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I rather have an official statement from EA than something coming out of some unknown editor. -- Lyverbe (talk) 11:35, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. There is far too much speculation with these kinds of articles. Gamesites and shops like gamestop, etc generally don't get that much of a heads up that a game is coming, not before it is announced by the company. Let's not forget how many times amazon and the rest revised their release date of TS2 before it was out.--221.143.25.19 (talk) 07:08, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Just a bit of Stuff

When I say a bit, I mean a lot... :D http://www.snootysims.com/thesims3index.php?id=info Look at it - it has tons of information... :) 21:15, 25 July 2008 (UTC) Also, Here is some news on the "TRAIT" system... Adverserial Artistic Athletic Brave Charismatic

Childish  Clumsy  Commitment Issues  Conversationalist  Creative 
Cursed  Daredevil  Dreamer  Easily Bored  EVIL 
Excitable  Family-Oriented  Flirty  Fortunate  Friendly 
Frugal  Genius  Gloomy  Good Sense of Humor  Good  
Green Thumbs   Gourmet  Grumpy  Handy  Hot-Headed 
Hydrophobic  Idealistic
 Inappropriate  Insensitive  Kleptomaniac 
Light Sleeper  Loner  Lucky  Mooch  Natural Cook 
Neat  Nice  Nosy  Outdoorsperson  Over-Emotional 
Paranoid  Partier  Perfectionist  Pizza Lover  Playful 
Romantic  Rude  Schmoozer  Shy  Slob 
Socialite  Tramp  Unforgiving  Unlucky  Vegeterian 
Whiney
 Workaholic  Worrywart 

Those are all the currently confirmed Traits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eurotom1234567890 (talk • contribs) 20:26, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I can easily create a similar page saying "They will have the ability to kidnap you and eat you". My point is: If it's not official from EA, it can only be rumours. Anyone can build such a "trait" list. -- Lyverbe (talk) 02:21, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh... Sorry... :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eurotom1234567890 (talk • contribs) 10:54, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I heard that Vain or vanity would be one of them. In an interview with one of the creators, he said his wife was helping him create him, and she picked a whole bunch of nice stuff and then 'vain'. I was laughing. We know EVIL, klepto, workaholic, over-emotional for sure right? Like in videos and interviews and such. There's that same sorta list here too: http://www.thesims3.fangree.co.uk/articles.php?article_id=7 Pretty much the same. Thanks for the site btw! (LadyCakeage (talk) 02:30, 1 September 2008 (UTC))

Music

People who are adding songs to the list along with "Citation needed" don't understand what it means. "Citation needed" = "Where did you get that info?". Don't add the song *WITH* "Citation needed", but specify where you got the info. If you don't, your addition to the article will be considered unsourced and removed. -- Lyverbe (talk) 21:03, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I've removed it entirely. It's pure drivel when every song has the tag next to it. I'll watchlist it and remove any more additions. hbdragon88 (talk) 04:24, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Multiplayer and Blu-ray format?

The article on The Sims 3 says that their might be online multiplayer and also says TS3 may be released on Blu-ray. Yet neither are given a citation. Where's the citation or source for this information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.215.120.106 (talk) 22:17, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

C-Class

Theres a discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sims/The_Sims_3#C-Class to move this article to C-Class.HereFord 01:11, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

World wide release

The release date has indeed been confirmed, but this releasedate is not really a world wide release. North America gets the game on February 20th, whereas (some countries in) Europe will get it 1 day earlier, on the 19th. This is confirmed on the official Dutch EA Sims 2 site. This is because game releases in The Netherlands generally happen on a Thursday! -Jort227 (talk) 19:43, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, one is an official press release from EA stating "worldwide" release and the other one from an official EA website. Hard to say who's right and who's wrong, but still, we're talking about a possible 1 day difference. No need to sound the alarm :) -- Lyverbe (talk) 01:53, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

The Sims 2 local sites says February 19, 2009 for : Netherlands, Sweden, Finland & Norway ! -- Iblis Trigger (talk) 03:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

About Australia, just there is the EB Games Australia announcement which said February 12, 2009. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iblis Trigger (talk • contribs) 20:07, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Game editions

First, I hate that table :) Second, it's confusing. It now says the release date is Feb 19 at Netherlands, Sweden, Finland and Norway... "Except: Netherlands, Sweden, Finland & Norway". Huh? -- Lyverbe (talk) 12:53, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

With this table getting more confusing than anything else, I decided to clean it up by sorting out the release dates. This made me realize that the two set of dates were the same, so I put them in a single column instead of two. I then realize that the dates were identical to the already mentionned dates in the infobox, so I removed the "Windows Release Date" column completely to be left out with almost nothing. I converted the table to text. -- Lyverbe (talk) 16:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, maybe it's too early to use a table, but it looks good on the TS2 wiki page -- Iblis Trigger (talk) 20:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for discussing about this Hereford *sigh* The first row is regarding the standard version which is already defined in the article's infobox, and that leaves the second row by itself. I'd say this table is useless and should be removed. -- Lyverbe (talk) 19:50, 31 August 2008 (UTC)