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"Tribal" and metals

"he is, however, fairly solely responsible for delivering the ‘tribal’ impulse and esthetic into the Western/European cultural milieu developing between the years 1978-1984."

A rather dubious and vague statement. I have my doubts that Malcolm McLaren and Adam Ant (to name but two) were necessarily taking their cues from him.

"In Nov./Dec. 1980 he introduced intense metal based percussion music to the UK and Europe while opening for Bauhaus on their first headlining tours there."

And another, since Einsturzende Neubauten were already a going concern at this point.


I am Z'EV and I added both these sentences. taken in order> In an article in the NME in late 1981 or 1982 Chris Bohn [current editor of The Wire] did in fact write words to that effect - and in fact, in regard to Adam Ant and Bow Wow Wow's use of Burundi style drumming. Unfortunately i can not longer find the clipping, otherwise there would be a quote with a citation

Yes, Neubauten were already in existence at that point, though they had not played outside of Berlin yet, and were not at that point the band they became after F.M.Einheit joined the band in 1981. Besides that, they're a rock and roll band [for want of a better term] and not 'percussion music' which is the genre i am specifically referring to, no? --Rhythmajik (talk) 14:01, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weisser

Why is z'ev referred to in the article as Weisser? Hyacinth (talk) 04:26, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

YES!!! Hyacinth!!! That is what i would like to know!!!! I almost sh-t the first time i saw it. However i did look at other Wiki bio pages and that does seem to be the 'style'. Have been wondering if i should just change it back to how you originally wrote the page ,o --Rhythmajik (talk) 14:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rhythmajik (Z'EV) and Hyacinth, Maybe "Sting" might be a reference? "Sumner" is used for the time of his life before he started using his alias "Sting"... Je VH (talk) 21:25, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion of this article on other talk pages

Does anyone remember the location of discussions regarding this article on other talk pages such as user talk pages? Hyacinth (talk) 04:29, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changes or modifications on 2 February 2008

Why were these necessary? For example: “he developed a personal technique utilizing self-developed instruments” was changed into ”Weisser began creating his own percussion instruments”. Edits like this seem to "reduce the data" and can’t be called “constructive”, so I’ll be glad to replace the original writings! Je VH (talk) 21:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Z'EV requests that people...

Originally this was written in the main article, also on 02/02/2008 it was adapted as a "reference" on the name "Z'EV". In my opinion this belongs in the article or in a footnote, not as a reference? Je VH (talk) 21:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why does the article list his time of birth?

Does it have some special significance? Most if not all of the biography articles I've seen list only the birth date.