User talk:J Bar

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WikiProject Sydney

Join us at WikiProject Sydney, a collaborative effort to enhance wikipedia coverage of the Sydney area. Regards, ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 01:04, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Commons

Hi Jim - thanks again for all the photos. I have a suggestion that you might like to take up. With the large amount of photos you are uploading, you might at this stage want to sign up to Wikimedia Commons and upload your photos there. This enables your photos to be used in any Wikimedia project and not just Wikipedia - so people from other language projects, Wikitravel, etc. can all use the photos. You need to go here and sign up (as "J Bar") and then you click on "Upload file" on the left and upload your files as per normal. You can use categories like [[Category:Sydney]] for Sydney-related photos and [[Category:Train stations in Sydney]] for railway station pics. This will save those users who want to use them on other projects a lot of time having to download your photos and then reupload them in other projects. I have done all your photos on railway stations up until today, so you won't need to put them up. (JROBBO 06:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Thank you

Thank you for your recent report at the administrators' noticeboard about a vandal user. You did an excellent job reverting the vandalism and restoring the integrity of the articles. If you encounter a similar situation again, you should do a couple of things differently.

Instead of warning a user "by hand", as you did, you should provide a formal [[WP:WARN|user warning template such as {{subst:uw-vandalism1}}, which gives you the following message:

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although we invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia, at least one of your recent edit, such as the one you made to Punchbowl, New South Wales, was not constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.

If the user does not stop, you can escalate to {{subst:uw-vandalism2}}, 3, and 4, and after that you should file a report at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism to block the user. Sometimes you can start the warnings at a number higher than 1 if the vandalism is already severe for multiple edits. In rare cases it is appropriate to block vandals without any warning at all. The general advice is to use your judgment, don't bite the newcomers, and ask the administrators if you need any help (just like you did this time, though I'm actually not an administrator). Let me know if you have any questions. Shalom ^Hello 06:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Federation

If you're interested in more Fed. material, I've just started a Fed gallery at commons. I realized I had shots of all 12 styles, so I might as well go for it.Federation Do you remember the sydney architecture.com site I told you about? They've used all my shots of the Abbey and witches houses, without giving me a credit. Might have some of yours too. I emailed them, asking for a credit, but no response yet.Sardaka (talk) 09:38, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Harassment

I blocked the IP you listed at WP:AIV but I doubt this will have any effect as it was listed to the University of NSW. If this becomes a persistent problem, either list your page for protection at WP:RFPP or drop a note on my talk page. CIreland (talk) 02:45, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Per your request at WP:RFPP, your user page is semi-protected indefinitely. Your User talk page is semi-protected for one week (as we don't like to restrict user communication for long periods). CIreland (talk) 03:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article Hits

I found there's a site that keeps a record of the number of hits each article has had. The suburbs articles have had hundreds of hits per month. Nice to know. I was starting to wonder if anyone read them. The site is at [1] if you want to check it out. Sardaka (talk) 12:20, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Statistical evidence for Central Northern Sydney

Hello,

I hope this suffices to prove the existance of the Central North Region of Sydney.

http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/lookup/2223E45AA4489301CA256F19001460B0?opendocument

I have simply merged the lower and central northern Sydney region into one as there is no real finite boundary (like the boundary for the North shore being the Lane Cove river).

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tourombah (talk • contribs) 11:43, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here is one more source:

http://www.metrostrategy.nsw.gov.au/dev/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=81&languageId=1&contentId=556

I strongly feel that a name change to "Northern Sydney region" or the "Northern Suburbs (based on the train line)" is better.

Suburbs like Westleigh, Thornleigh etc are not Upper north shore. Ryde, Macquarie park etc are not Lower North shore- as you have also stated.

Thank you for your understanding and I hope we can get to a suitable outcome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tourombah (talk • contribs) 12:05, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi J Bar, you said on Tourombah's talk that you would like to get this right and get more input from WP Sydney. I wouldn't mind having two cents worth in a wider forum. I support your reversions of Tourombah's AGF edits until some consistency and notability have been established. I might also draw your attention to Tourombah's edits of Lower North Shore (Sydney). In general there might be two needs to be met. One is a popular, colloquial, ill-defined notion of regions (eg Lower North Shore) and the other being regions defined on ABS statistical regions of Sydney which could form the basis of many good (perhaps even featured) articles of the demographics of Sydney based on easily verifiable data from the ABS, not a mish-mash. Again we should get this right, because it has been mucked up so far. Many thanks. Bleakcomb (talk) 22:41, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ferry wharves

Heading formats - please help if you can...

Hey JBar. I’ve noticed in a few Sydney suburb articles the heading format is not quite correct. Ie, all words to be lower case except for the heading’s first word and any proper nouns. Eg, we don’t write “==Commercial Area==” but “==Commercial area==”. I note you seem to be the one who “gets around” the WP suburb articles the most so in your travels, please look out for any inconsistencies if you can. Cheers --Merbabu (talk) 21:54, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He he – my story is that I am also a format freak (drives my colleagues mad). I used to fight with the wikipedia headings. But, in apparent contrast to you, I now really like the heading formats, and I find my work writing following wikipedia! Indeed, my work writing has become very dry with the NPOV stanard, and even cites! I cannot write the word "large" for example - I actually am compelled to provide a measurement. WP has infected my blood and consciousness. Sad i know. --Merbabu (talk) 23:19, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

4 Sept

I probably need to get this book. Is it commonly available? Expensive? --Merbabu (talk) 23:38, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chatty

Not in "my circles"? lol :-). Well, my circles are fairly broad, quite Sydney-centric at least on a daily basis, and have spanned some years. I have never come across it. My google search - “Chatswood Chatty” - didn’t pick up anything but a few apparent forums. Sorry.

A good rule of thumb on notability that I’ve read a few times (I’ll find it one time), is that if it can’t be referenced to reliable sources, then it quite likely isn’t notable. I'm glad you're not suggesting forums are reliable or a sign notability to wikipedia. Further, the corollary of it not being in “my circle” is that it might indeed be in other circles, but are these circles representative (teens on a forum isn't) and is it (a) notable for the article and (b) notable enough for the lead?

Cheers--Merbabu (talk) 06:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

White Bay Hotel

Hi, J Bar, I noticed that you've been adding a huge amount of material about Sydney to Wikipedia, well done.

However, I am curious as to why you keep changing the description of the White Bay Hotel from

"Until recently, it served as a platform for billboards"

to the incorrect:

"It served as a platform for billboards advertising to traffic on the Western Distributor until it was destroyed"

It hasn't had a billboard on it for years!? cojoco (talk) 05:31, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Cojoco, The reason I removed 'recently' is that in practice using that word can lead to errors. It's fine for that article today but if that article doesn't get updated it will say recently forever. Because I monitor the Sydney articles, I have seen many that were written 3 or 4 years ago that state a fact as recent but a lot has changed but nobody has bothered to go back and change the information so it is incorrect. I've found when editing articles it's better if you state the actual year or date than say recently. I hope that explains it for you. Cheers. J Bar (talk) 05:43, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I see, thanks. I've added the dates from the Heritage Report. cojoco (talk) 06:06, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Parramatta, Liverpool, Campbelltown, Penrith

You are mistaken. When I changed the articles to reflect their status as a city this wholly reflected this status separately from their LGAs. Why did you not check the citations? Why did you not check List of Australian cities? If you did you would have clearly seen this. —VerseDoorPlace (talk) 02:00, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To further add to this: the aforementioned article says:

New South Wales, therefore, has two types of "city": cities which are acknowledged on the register of the Geographical Names Board of New South Wales,[4] and Local Government Areas which have been proclaimed as cities, either before or after 1993, which are not acknowledged on the NSW Geographical Names Register.

Parramatta, Liverpool, Campbelltown, Penrith are of the former type -- they are CITIES of themselves, and are recognised by the Geographical Names Board of New South Wales and not merely 'cities' by virtue of their LGAs. They are as much cities as all the other names on the list (Albury, Armidale, ...). The only difference is that they are within the Sydney metro area.

Please get your facts straight before simply reverting the extensive work I have conducted here. —VerseDoorPlace (talk) 02:05, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You could have at least had the courtesy to only change the lines which pertain to Parramatta as a city (i.e. the first few lines), rather than revert the whole damn thing! The reorganisation of the article I have done is COMPLETELY CONSTRUCTIVE and is making it more consistent with Wikipedia! It is unrelated to this 'dispute'. Geez. I still believe you are completely wrong here, though. VerseDoorPlace (talk) 03:07, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Timotheos Evangelinidis

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Hi!

Remember Me?.....

--767-294ER (talk) 06:43, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Your Abuse

Ha Ha

I bet you thought you were very funny, well SUCK SHIT

I am reporting you to an administrator dur to your vandalism. Please refrain from partaking in vandalism.