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Retirement

Look at your first contribution, and then look at your several last.

You are destroying my work. ;0)

At least promise that you'll be returning one day? --PaxEquilibrium 07:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edit conflict between me and you

I was just reverting the anon at the same time. ;)

Cheers!

P.S. Did you hear that Nebojsa Medojevic will run for President? --PaxEquilibrium 19:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I heard that Filip Vujanovic might not be the DPS representer. I also heard that Milo Djukanovic is going to make a re-run for President again (that's why he resigned, he's coming back). He was just reelected as DPS leader.

If Milo runs instead of Filip, Nebojsa is bound to win. However if he Filip runs again, I think there will be a truly Montenegrin-style epic clash (50%-55% for one) between the two...

Well considering that in several days they'll bring up the Constitution, I think there will be strong grounds for a Montenegrin-language Wikipedia. However it has come to my attention the Wikimedia committee's mention that the not a single Serbo-Croat Wikipedia will be created (any more; and that includes the non-existent Montenegrin). That doesn't mean of course that after the language's proclamation and officialization the project won't have my wholesome support.

Cheers! Mh, no biggy. I have "wiki-enemies" with Serbian, Croatian, Bosniak and even Montenegrin (I've had Albanian, but they're all banned now) nationalists, and I guess it's hard to fight them all (many see me as traitors - supporting them on one thing, than totally opposing them on another; because I try to stay in the middle). --PaxEquilibrium 19:23, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I know. Time passes so quickly (it feels to me like the night was in the streets was yesterday). ;) --PaxEquilibrium 19:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do you consider Filip Vujanovic a Serbian nationalist because of the Ecclesiastic thing? --PaxEquilibrium 19:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Serbian List will not have a candidate. It itself adopted a policy of marginalism, accepting that the Serbs are a numerous nation in Montenegro (a bad thing to myself, further divisions), which would be insane for it to give President, giving up from NS's aims. And I think if there's a clash between Filip/Milo and Nebojsa, it's obvious they'll support Nebojsa - most probably *giving that necessary 50%+ push*.

That should not come as a shock. If you see my comments just prior to the referendum (between me and CrnaGora e.g.), when Serbian nationalists (User:Bormalagurski) mass-insulted me, you wouldn't be shocked.

I was (and AFAIK am still) a strong proponent of the razdruzenje of the dying non-functional 'mutant'. Svetozar Marovic was its practical dictator for God's sake! A restructuring of the state into a more functional one might've been interesting, but was far from the political reality. IMHO I've been urging the Montenegrin community in Serbia (~300,000) to drop the demands for rights to vote (since it would obviously fail then, duh). I myself had an incident with Slavenko Terzic (er, please don't ask).

Of course I wholesomely supported the independence of the Republics of Montenegro and Serbia, and my opinion has not changed one bit since the referendum. :) I have only afterwards remained harshly overcritic regarding how it was conducted... but now you get why I am a supporter of the Movement for Changes... right? :D Cheers. --PaxEquilibrium 20:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My general attitudes belong to neither side. The moment most Montenegrins realize like me that they must STOP constantly dividing into two *sides* (artificial non-useful creation) in the past 100 years, only then will Montenegro enter a stage of progress. My opinions are not ideological, but based on rationale. I noted that because Montenegro was already independent the moment I asked. E.g. you might've noticed that I wholesomely supported independence of Montenegro, I am neutral on the nationality and language issue - but I personally think it's foolish for those Serbs to identify themselves as such and can't really understand the Montenegrin language *need* (although basically do) and am practically allergic to the Montenegrin Orthodox Church. And those are all because of specific and individualized reasons - not because of any "aim".

Terzic is one of the leading Serbian Montenegrins. He's an academic, a very professed one - but a fierce Serb nationalist.

I never mentioned any opposition bloc - just the obvious fact that they'll all support a PzP candidate, rather than DPS. (duh) :) Cheers! --PaxEquilibrium 14:36, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

SNP

I have absolutely no personal bonds/sympathies with the Socialist People's Party. This has only got to do with my disappointment of the so-called "democratic" regime in Montenegro after 2000 and the evident fact that it became the better choice. However with the Movement for Changes at the scene, there is no place for any other right now. --PaxEquilibrium 09:28, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Racism

I know, I've read it before. :)))

Was it supplemented to you by Critika1 too?

P.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Administrative_divisions_of_Montenegro&diff=prev&oldid=135878797 What do you mean by bad faith term? --PaxEquilibrium 10:19, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Err... bad faith means not that it's a bad term, but that I intentionally, out of bad faith, put it there. ;( Do you really think that?
Who was it (the racist theory), if I may know? --PaxEquilibrium 11:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please inform me of the forums in question? --PaxEquilibrium 19:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Montenegrin First League 2006-07

No problem, don't mention it. And please, feel free to expand the article. I'm not Montenegrin myself as you probably knew from my user page, so I have very few sources for information, and thus I literally don't know what else to put up there. But I felt it was important to put it up there, anyway.

By the way, does the First League have a specific logo (seperate from the Football Association logo)? I was looking for one for the main First League page infobox, but a quick google search only found the FA logo. Or maybe you'd like to put up that yourself?

Either way, glad to oblige, and I'll be interested to read the other stuff you add later. Falastur2 19:45, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Milo Djukanovic

I believe he was wrong about one thing.

If memory serves me well, Milo's straight (heterosexual). ;) --PaxEquilibrium 22:16, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Piece of nationalistic crap on Montenegrin articles

Wow there. ;) Remember the civility.

Don't let stupid dumb little things annoy, ever; no matter what they are. Cheers! :) --PaxEquilibrium 15:00, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well I'll just tell you a single (or better, two) cunning words: don't.

Cheer. ;) --PaxEquilibrium 20:53, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unified opposition?

The only thing that divided them was the statehood question... which is no longer here...

LSCG in 2001 supported Predrag Bulatovic for Prime Minister, but had to withdraw support because Bulatovic said he won't propose an independent Montenegro. They said that they supported Filip Vujanovic with a very grave heart...

I know some of the constitutional questions (language, religion) pose a still dividing problem, but they're no strong as this one - and they're about to end too. ;) --PaxEquilibrium 21:30, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Serbs will never make a government, that's sure - but I think that no "Milo in the opposition" gov cannot be made without 'em, at least their support.
With SNP operating itself from NS & DSS, the two latter don't stand a chance because of the small number of supporters. I personally doubt that NS and DSS would alone in a coalition stand at the next election, so they might probably align with the Serbian List. In that case (and taking to granted strengthening of Mandic's cause), no government could be made without SL - they would be something like the Liberals (although far from it ;) in the beginning of the 21st century.
Though unlike SNS, the two have a good history of cooperation with LSCG - I see no reason that if PzP, LP and SNP form a coalition they might join it as well (although with just guaranteed one seat, they gotta admit their weakness). --PaxEquilibrium 12:04, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bob

What's wrong with the picture? Can you make a better one? If so, please do tell.

Well first off only one is semi-anonymous(filip), but how can you call Anto Gvozdenovic anonymous? He was a very important montenegrin in history and should always be remembered.

I agree that Njegos or King Nikola would be more appropriate, but that would give license to serbs to shut the whole thing down, and start saying njegos was serb not montenegrin, and King Nikola, although he never once said he was serb, they'd do the same thing

This picture right now is appropriate for ethnic montes because there is no conflict with the serbs over it, until you can get pass the above it will have to do. Critikal1 06:15, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If I recall, a thing like that already happened - the Montenegrin image was deleted on the argument that it doesn't represent true Montenegrins (it had just two people, Petar I Petrovic-Njegos and Milo Djukanovic ;). --PaxEquilibrium 12:10, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I was just talking about it with someone. Ranko Krivokapic said that he accepts PzP's demand for immediate elections after the constitution's proclamation. Milo has himself criticized the event calling him to rethink. He used the word "treachery". ;))) Then again these're politics, who knows. --PaxEquilibrium 19:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Govt. of Montenegro Template

You sure saved me a lot of time trying to find the party each minister belongs to. I've been going nuts trying to find their parties but I could only find those that I had placed already. Thank you so much for your help! --CrnaGora 00:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Albania-veneta nonsense

Sorry, I just saw it for the first time (missed it during multiple-messages to me).

Since it's a new subject, you could've opened a new thread at the bottom - I would've most definitely noticed then. ;)

I'm on it. Frankly, the article's title needs to be changed, and about 90% of its content rewritten/deleted... that's why I'm outright thinking 'bout deleting the whole article, but I wanna keep up good faith and contact its author... --PaxEquilibrium 22:32, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, remember our (very old) news? See this. They already have an article in Wikipedia... --PaxEquilibrium 23:53, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
He's a bit uncivil for a university professor... geez.
I am moving it to Venetian Albania. --PaxEquilibrium 13:34, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes there is: WP:RFCU. However it is not for fishing, which means that we'll need a good reason before request it (like Dalmata editing while Brunodam is blocked, or vice versa). --PaxEquilibrium 14:28, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
.and... ...now we have one. ;) --PaxEquilibrium 18:56, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'd reckon we do. 3RR violation evasion falls down under the E code letter.
However I'm afraid your report will be ignored and just archived - he did not violate 3RR. Read WP:3RR, it refers to reverting more than three times in a day. That's why I filed the RFCU, if Dalmata's him - he did. --PaxEquilibrium 19:13, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
..and... now he did. ;0) --PaxEquilibrium 19:21, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Because three reverts is the limit for reverting within 24h. --PaxEquilibrium 19:32, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Dalmata is a confirmed sockpuppet of Brunodam. --PaxEquilibrium 21:27, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sideshow Bob, I think you're having the same/similar problem as I do. I had problems with ...persons... ("likovi") who italianize Croatian toponyms, as well as Croat personalities (mostly from Littoral area).
I see you have problems with Brunodam, though, I haven't looked deeper, and saw his "dictionary". I had similar problems with user Giovanni Giove. They both use similar language, phrases. And as I see, they have same behaviour (sockpuppets?), at least by criticizing and throwing mud (they use "heavy words"), without listening/reading what opposers have said, wrote, gave arguments. You should see problems I had on article Jakov Mikalja and Republic of Dubrovnik; I gave Giovanni Giove the links to scanned pages of historical documents, and, in return, after all that, Giovanni Giove, as well as Brunodam, call me as distributor of desinformations and as a nationalist [1]??? (besides some other users).
I write you this message, because I saw that message (see link above). Kubura 07:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

What? But he did not violate 3RR. --PaxEquilibrium 21:25, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
checkY

Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s):

Yes you're right... so sorry about that. I mistakenly thought some of the edits that occurred two days ago actually occurred yesterday. I was not expecting the disruption involving Brunodam to go on hiatus for a day, and there were very few edits to the article yesterday (my time zone). Again, sorry about that.

Request handled by: -- tariqabjotu 21:51, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Pitanje

Izvini,da ne znas mozda ko je napisao ovu strofu:

Онамо, 'намо... за брда она Милошев, кажу, пребива гроб! Онамо покој добићу души, кад Србин више не буде роб


I jel mozes da mi kazes kako su buducnost Kraljevine Jugoslavije videli Zelenasi sve do 1941. godine?


I ako mozes da mi kazes kako se izjasnjavao Sekula Drljevic kada se vratio iz emigracije? Kao Srbin ili kao crnogorac?


E i jos samo ovo: Da li je Kralj Nikola u svom proglasu iz emigracije 1920. godine sebe nazivao crnogorskim ili Svesrpskim carem?


Hvala ti mnogo,ja sam siguran da mozes da mi pomognes,ovo su neke osnovne stvari,ja da sam crnogorac bih znao odgovore,ali posto nisam voleo bih da mi ti pomognes. ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTU 19:11, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear Sideshow Bob! Are there currently any specific Governmental flags or Military flags in Montenegro? --Camptown 21:53, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sideshow Bob! Are you sure that the State flag was undefaced - a tricolor with no arms or cypher? I added to the list an undefaced tricolor (flag of 1881), for this flag is only mentioned in the German Flag book as an "unofficial" merchant flag (civil ensign). The book doesn't mention the use of traditional "state flags" along with the royal flags during the time of the Kindom of Montenegro, and the "long" tricolor (ratio 1:3) is clained to be an invention of a later date, which is actually strange as the light "bluish" color in that flag is claimed to be a "traditional" color in Montenegro... Was the 3:1 flag ratio established in recent years in order to distinguish the Montenegrin flag from the Serbian tricolor? --Camptown 21:40, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You're right. I mixed up. It's the DPS party coat-of-arms. --PaxEquilibrium 11:52, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Milo Djukanovic

Milo kaput!!! ;) --PaxEquilibrium 00:17, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Did you hear what Stanko Subotić Cane said? He said that the whole farce is a global anti-Montenegrin conspiracy launched by Nebojsa Medojevic. And the DPS officials supported him. ;))) --PaxEquilibrium 19:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: Welcome Back

I never left, mate. I just stopped editing. And indeed, Pax was useful. He got blocked a few days after I left for Montenegro, some coincidence. I'm glad you're back, though. Actually, I'm overjoyed, finally an old friend :). BTW, I've created the Who See? article before but they deleted it, so don't be surprised if your version is deleted :(.

BTW, I've always wanted to know whether you were affiliated with Rotacija.net. And do you by any chance know who that "Prevalis" character is here on Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Црна Гора (talkcontribs) 02:48, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]