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This article was nominated for deletion on 20 February 2007. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

The OVW Triple Crown

SilentRage decided to blank the OVW section, stating "OVW is irrellivant". I applaud him for being bold but I do't feel that blanking a section without discussion is constructive and if there is one thing the TCC talk page is renowned for it's long discussions. I would rather not have to keep reverting so I will state what I think. I have never seen any OVW wrestling, but I know that it breeds a good deal of the current WWE roster, so if OVW by itself is notable and we have pages for all three titles then a table to inform those who have an interest of who has won the three titles should be kept. Maybe it should be moved from the TCC page to the OVW page. But if SilentRage feels that OVW is "irrellivant" then maybe he should find some sources to improve its "rellivance". I slapped an OR tag on it before the AfD debate but that was a flag for others to find sources, not an invite to blank the section. Darrenhusted 14:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Simply put, OVW isn't a major promotion. If we put OVW, then we'll have to put DSW, and a bunch of other mid-level federations. The list would be way too long. I actually would like to question you on why you would actually think that OVW is on the level of national promotions like WWE or TNA and why you think it is greater than, let's say, DSW or ROH. In fact, I think there was already a discussion and consensus on leaving-out the non-major promotions off the list. Check the archives. ^---SilentRAGE! 17:16, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The page says Triple Crown, but is it really.

Hi! everyone. Okay I have a question why does the page say Triple Crown when we only accept WWE and TNA triple Crown records? Why not ECW, WCW, or OVW? What about indy promotions? We need to change the page to include everything. Not just TNA and WWE. If we don't change the page then change the name. It says Triple Crown and it should say TNA and WWE Triple Crown Championship. Or Triple Crown Championship in Major Professional Wrestling.--WillC 07:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It did have OVW and WCW listed, but they were unreferenced. I moved the OVW to the OVW page. Darrenhusted (talk) 08:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was just at the OVW page. Where did it go?--WillC 08:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, check the history. It was there, but as it has no refs it could have been removed, it has been a year or so since I moved it. Darrenhusted (talk) 08:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I believe you but I just don't understand how come certain stuff gets taken down but I've seen other stuff with no source at all be kept than something that is easier to believe.--WillC 19:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with your logic is that it is, well, logic :P. When dealing with human beings, the logical course of action is usually the course that isn't taken. Don't try to understand it; if something seems stupid at first glance it probably is. Cheers, The Hybrid 03:20, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I didn't even understand what you meant. Whatever. But why don't we add the OVW and ECW Triple Crowns to the page as well. It is the Triple Crown Championship page and there is more Triple Crowns than the WWE and TNA Crowns.--WillC 06:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because there are no sources. Just because other stuff without sources is kept doesn't mean we have to keep this. Other mistakes don't justify more. Cheers, The Hybrid 07:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay if I can find a source for the OVW and ECW Triple Crowns can I add them then?--WillC 07:56, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If it's reliable, yes. Cheers, The Hybrid 17:21, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay.--WillC 19:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple Triple Crowns

The lead states that there is a Multiple Triple Crown. If so, why aren't the multiple triple crown winners in WWE listed? Chris Jericho, The Rock, Steve Austin and Bret Hart are each 2-time Triple Crown winners, Shawn Michaels is a 3-time Triple Crown winner and Edge is an astounding 5-time Triple Crown winner. I think they should be listed. Alex ^T/_C Guest Book 14:51, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That only applies to TNA. Tenay and West often make reference to Styles being a "three time Triple Crown Champion." WWE never makes any such mention. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 14:54, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but WWE never makes any mention that the Triple Crown even exists. So, I think that argument isn't really consistent with the rest of the article. Because, apparently, I thought that the Triple Crown championship was something invented by the fans. But, if it's something WWE invented, and they don't mention it anymore, then I think that the last Triple Crown champion mentioned on TV is in fact the last triple crown champion. Who was this? Alex ^T/_C Guest Book 19:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WWE.com occasionally mentions the Triple Crown. It's sourced in the article, check the links. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 00:10, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The only source from WWE is that Pedro Morales is a Triple Crown Champion. Basically, there is absoulutely no other source. I challenge this as WP:OR. Alex ^T/_C Guest Book 19:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

US Championship title?

Isn't the US Championship equal in level to the Intercontinental Championship? By extension couldn't it be held as a proxy for the Intercontinental Championship, much like the WHC and the WWE titles?

Long answer: This has been discussed before. It assumed that they are of equal level, but doing so is original research which is not permitted on Wikipedia. WWE.com has pages that confirm WWE tag titles and WHC as proxies for the World tag and WWE titles, but so for the US title. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 18:35, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Short answer: No. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 18:35, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't matt hardy close to a triple crown or is he a triple crown because he was the tag team champion ( world and wwe) The Usa title and the Ecw championship

signed turtle —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.72.38.16 (talk) 03:13, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, a former Tag champion needs an IC and World/WWE title reign. Matt has neither. Darrenhusted (talk) 14:05, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I definitely don't consider the ECW Title a surrogate for the World Heavyweight or the WWE championships, especially since PWI and other organizations don't recognize it as a world title anymore. The US Championship SHOULD substitute the Intercontinental Title, but until we get clear confirmation, we can't say that it does. So Matt with the PRESENT state of the Triple Crown must have an Intercontinental Title and WWE/World Heavyweight title reign. So in short, I agree with Darren. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.151.84.17 (talk) 16:22, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think i understand why the US title and ECW title are not included. This is because the ECW title of course was from ECW and brought over by the WWE , the same with the US title from WCW. All the other titles are founded and the history began with WWE. -- Sion.