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In defence

Seriously, people in Canada should spend better time with "humanitarian causes". Lai Changxing is not a humanitarian cause. In twenty years the entirety of West Vancouver will be composed of mansions for fleeing Chinese officials.

Has anyone read Pierre Lemieux's piece at this website?. I won't even directly argue against it. It sums itself up pretty good:

What has Lai Changxing done? As a Chinese resident, he has, since 1996, smuggled in China many billions of dollars worth of goods, ranging from crude oil to vegetable oil, rubber, cars, cigarettes, electrical goods, etc. Not only has he evaded nearly billions in taxes, but he did other nasty things like selling oil at half the official price and “distorting national oil prices and thus production and overall energy policy” (Far Eastern Economic Review dated Nov. 30, 2000).

As the press suggests in veiled, self-righteous disapproval, the “smuggling kingpin” also engaged in “corruption.” He had to keep Leviathan at bay. So, he bought off a host of bureaucrats, at least up to the level of the deputy mayor, the local customs chief, and a provincial deputy police chief. He paid them millions in bribes, entertained them with girls, and gave jobs to their relatives. As a result of the anti-corruption repression campaign in China, many of these bureaucrats have been recently charged and condemned, including to the death penalty. The main suspect was still at large, hiding in Vancouver. Fortunately, the Canadian government came to the rescue in upholding morality and the Chinese rule of law.

Two wrongs don't make a right. The same logic applies to Falun Gong. Simply because the Chinese bureaucratic and economic system is screwed up does not justify a guy going around knowingly (and proudly and shamelessly) bribing officials, evading taxes that would otherwise be used as a relative equalization of wealth, and doing it all for personal gain. Smarten up. Or it may simply be a matter of time before Canada is filled with Chinese lowlifes who have gained their success through corrupt and shameless methods.

I have changed the tone of the article to an anti-Chinese government piece to a more neutral piece that takes an objective look at the article. Colipon+(T) 03:37, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To the OP: you are clearly missin ghte point. He broke laws in a certain country, so he deserves to be punished. It does not matter if we, as westerners, agree with these laws or not; the fact is that he broke them. Would you want someone in your country breaking your laws and then escaping to another country that doesn't "believe" in these laws? This man is a criminal. There is no question about that.

To the people of Canada

Lai is a cunning, wicked man. There are mountain piles of evidences against him. "Anti-Chinese government or not" aside, he needs to be bought back to justice. By not bringing him back to China, the Canadian government is sheltering him from the very thing that they advocate --- Freedom & Justice. "Fair trial?" I don't know if he will get one. But by sheltering him, there won't be a trial. TheAsianGURU 20:43, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]