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anyone good with graphics?

This leaf needs to be a nice cyan shade of blue

Is there anyone here good with graphics who might be able to recolour File:Leaf.png to a shade of blue similar to File:Fringe leaf.jpg? N.B. This isn't that important. It's for a userbox. But I'd appreciate it =) –xeno (talk) 18:49, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well I'm not good with graphics but my girlfriend is, maybe I can get her to do it. I don't know if she's that good, but she's an animator and computer programmer, so I'll see what she can do, we'll be even for all that you've done for me. Cheerio!--Ezekiel 7:19 †alk 19:31, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Cool...thanks. =) –xeno (talk) 19:36, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wait do you have an E-mail. Maybe if it works I can have her send it to you when it's done. Now I'm not positive if she can do it yet, so don't rely on me too much. See who else can do it as well, keep your options open.--Ezekiel 7:19 †alk 19:40, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, it's xenowiki (at) gmail (dot) com. But you or her could also just upload it to the commons under GFDL if you like. –xeno (talk) 19:46, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah the only thing is that I'm leaving for Philly in two hours so I won't have access to a computer till Tuesday at the latest so i want to give her the info to contact you so you'll get it first. That way you don't have to wait so long.--Ezekiel 7:19 †alk 19:54, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sure thing... =) Have a safe trip. –xeno (talk) 19:58, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hey thanks, I really just don't want to teach her how to do these things (especially in 2 hours) so I just mailed her your e-mail so if it turns out well she'll send it to you. See you later, I'm out. Cheerio!--Ezekiel 7:19 †alk 20:01, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Did you get anywhere with the blue leaf ? will take me about 10 mins if you still need it --Chaosdruid (talk) 23:47, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think Ezekiel's gf got around to it, so if you could, that would be awesome! =) Upload it to the commons or email it to the above address. Thanks =) –xeno (talk) 23:58, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sry - commons keeps messing up the GDFL licence so its taken me 20 mins to do the upload so far due to derivativeFX cocking up lol - be with you in 10 I hope --Chaosdruid (talk) 00:32, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No rush. I appreciate it =) –xeno (talk) 00:34, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You may need them a little more bright/metallic looking - if so will do that for you but need about 30 mins or so as would have to do major alterations for that--Chaosdruid (talk) 00:41, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
They're just for a userbox so it's not super important - these look fine =) If you have time, but otherwise, thanks a bunch! –xeno (talk) 00:43, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wow - just got your message ! thanks, my first ever barnstar ! - also a more blue one, it looks a bit flat tho..depends on how big ur going to have it...-Chaosdruid (talk) 01:00, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

← No problem, you deserve it. That latest one is perfect! =) Here is your work in all its glory. Thanks again. –xeno (talk) 01:03, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This user considers themself to be an observer of "the Pattern".
np - was a pleasure to do something constructive lol - good show btw ! --Chaosdruid (talk) 01:07, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
yea, i like it. did you know that Olivia Dunham (Anna Torv) was the model and voice for the Heavenly Sword heroine? the more you know =) –xeno (talk) 01:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Def a step up from Boston legal for Mr Valley ! and lucky man to have got her to the altar lol --Chaosdruid (talk) 01:14, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
lol i didn't eveen realize she married John Scott life imitating art, I guess? =) –xeno (talk) 01:18, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks for the userbox; I added it as soon as I saw it. :) And replying to the above users, Fringe is definitely one of the best shows right now, after Lost, of course. ;) Corn.u.co.pia • Disc.us.sion 04:20, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

hehe, no problem =) cheers, –xeno (talk) 06:20, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah you know, she never got around to it. I don't know why, she didn't check her mail yet. She must have gone some where as well and never told me about it. Oh well, as long as the jobs finished than I'm happy. I just like helping others, especially when the person is an admin. Those occasions are not as common. Cheerio!--Ezekiel 7:19 †alk 16:03, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But if you ever need anything else concerning graphics, just give me a buzz.--Ezekiel 7:19 †alk 16:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
She did eventually, she sent me like 5 different proofs. They're great. Thanks a bunch =) –xeno (talk) 18:14, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
See, I told you she was good. If only she checked her mail sooner.--Ezekiel 7:19 †alk 09:04, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Admin's Barnstar

The Admin's Barnstar
Just because. Enigmamsg 20:18, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
o, hot, i dont think i have this one yet. thanks =] –xeno (talk) 20:19, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I can't believe you really did this. And no problem. ;) Enigmamsg 20:22, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
lol... =) teh ironies... –xeno (talk) 20:23, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

THAT DAMN SPAM!

Is it just my computer that gets some stupid advert on it everytime you acess the Resi 5 talk page. If it is then what the hell! Can you please take a look at it.--'The Ninjalemming'' 21:41, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like you're running into some spyware/popups. Try running a spyware checker. I would reccomend Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/ –xeno (talk) 19:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, done that and it seems fixed; it was a Trojan Email-Worm. Hope it doesn't come back. --'The Ninjalemming'' 14:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Newcomer help page

I am considering doing a help page for new people, who need practise editing; by making a new page (possibly under User:Ninjalemming/New user/help) and giving them random information (about anything, even if it is untrue, this is just practise) that they can put in and practise their writing skills. Obversile this will take some time to start, but what do you think about this, is it a good idea or not? (remember I hought of this first) --'The Ninjalemming'' 14:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like something that would be conducted under the auspices of adopt-a-user. –xeno (talk) 15:33, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Does that mean I can't do it? --'The Ninjalemming'' 16:19, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Why dont you read up on the adopt-a-user project and decide if you're ready for that. –xeno (talk) 18:15, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Don't think I am able to properly adopt-a-user yet; maybe in a couple of months; or five. But I will do this page (as an example mind) and give it to the 'Adopt-a-user people' to use if they so wish. It may take me a few days but I will show you so you can judge it, arn't you the lucky person! (or not) ;P --'The Ninjalemming'' 18:22, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have finished the first draft of the New comer help page thingy, can you judge it so I can propose it to the Adopt-a-user group, please. Cheers also! --'The Ninjalemming'' 15:02, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Birthday

Cheers. 4 years is too long methinks. Definitely over the hill. ;) Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 12:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are no longer alone

My lastest nominee to pass at RfA failed to get my !support vote.---I'm Spartacus! The artist formerly known as Balloonman 20:03, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

lol, you forget again? =) –xeno (talk) 22:01, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Can I claim old age?---I'm Spartacus! The artist formerly known as Balloonman 22:37, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps plead the 5th? =) –xeno (talk) 15:05, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please help

Hello xeno i was wondering if you can help me out because i dont think this circumstance needs a user check or would be accepted. I believe i'm dealing with three sock puppets within the Olive skin article previously i edit warred with this user User:Novelaconto over a poorly re written section by him not in toe with the sources provided ,i myself unfortanately got so fraustrated with one of his possible sock accounts that i used my secondary account for sock purposes and he reported me for sock puppetry.So i was blocked for one week but decided to take a wiki break for over a month,so i started to edit again but stayed away from that article as per i did not want no problems but i came across some sources to which i wanted to add another picture of somebody with olive skin so i did though i did leave the part of the article alone that i was blocked for trying to avoid the 3rr and i added a source and pic of a person who happends to be from england who has olive skin but no sooner a day later some newly created account came and changed the picture from the one i added and than added another pic and added person of enlgish descend with olive skin from sun tanning when none of the sources say that so i reverted it once and added back the pic and the previous heading under the picture and added another source but he than changed it back again so i decided to get some admin assistance,now why i suspect that this three accounts are all the same person User:Novelaconto User:Dingdongacid User_Talk:Obahliskh. Now i susupect socks because all these accounts basicaly make controversial disruptive edits and disapear in other words if you check there history their accounts make edits for olive skin and barely anything else and some how always seem to clash with my edits in other words just being disrutpive and pov pushing under different accounts to avoid some sort of reputation ,if you check the talk page for olive skin i do have a history of trying to work out differences with other editors on this article and other established editors as well as some admins have agreed with my edits to the article if you could take the time out to investigate the matter for me there seems to be a pattern of people creating accounts just to duke it out on the olive skin article--Wikiscribe (talk) 18:33, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you suspect sockpuppetry the besy thing to do would be to file a report at WP:SPI. –xeno (talk) 18:43, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i made a case yesterday xeno can you have a look at this case for me this is my first time doing this i dont know if i did it right because no admin has commented on the case yet i dont know whether it needs a user check or what Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dingdongacid--Wikiscribe (talk) 17:21, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i'm not too familiar with it either (it's a new process compared to the old one) but it looks ok to me. SPI is usually fairly backlogged so just give it some time now. –xeno (talk) 17:31, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

okay i just thought maybe i did something wrong ie it's malformed or something, i just want it farily looked out whether im right or wrong--Wikiscribe (talk) 17:41, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, I won't be deleting Wikipedia in 15 seconds... wouldn't know how to in the first place

The Barnstar of Diligence
Although you chose to abstain during my RfA, I have to say that I was impressed with your question here, even if I didn't quite answer it to your liking. Its very well thought out and presented; I found it to be the highest quality question in the RfA. I hope other admin candidates will continue to benefit from it. -- Sabre (talk) 21:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OH! thanks =) I'm glad you like it. P.S. In your quest to delete all of Wikipedia, this may help: Wikipedia:Twinkle/doc#Batch deletion ;> –xeno (talk) 21:29, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Underground economy

Why have you protected this page (Underground economy)? It doesn't seem to have been vandalized.

SimonTrew (talk) 06:57, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I actually unprotected it (leaving move protection in place, if consensus finds for a rename, let me know), prior to that it was indefinitely semi-protected (as was Nawlin's past procedure after some page move vandalism). See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Underground_economy –xeno (talk) 13:29, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK I must have misunderstood the automatic wikipedia comment. It's not a bad article, needs a bit of tidying I think, i've done a bit, you a lot more, but does not seem to be getting vandalised. Personally I would have to toss a coin over 'Black Market' vs 'Underground Economy', would have trouble deciding. I have a reproduction pamphlet here from RAF Duxord (Imperial War Museum) which includes a section on the spivs, would that be at all helpful? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SimonTrew (talk • contribs) 15:18, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The be honest, I don't know much at all about the article. I just unprotected it to let anons and new users edit it. Have at it =) –xeno (talk) 15:20, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK I do know and with a fair wind could probably become the kinda leading editor of this article. My mum currently is borrowing the pamphlet about spivs in WWII but I will get it back soon. So with your permission I will make a few more drastic-- but not vandalistic-- edits. I am just getting used to big edits, before done mostly just subbing, so I get tied up sometimes just with the technicalities (a bit stupid for a computer programmer really). I will get there, but a bit of guidance in the right direction will be more than welcome. SimonTrew (talk) 15:24, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
hehe, you don't need my permission to edit the article, and don't worry about messing things up because everything can be undone or fixed. Feel free to let me know if you have any specific questions about how to go about working on the article. Happy editing, –xeno (talk) 17:34, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New comer help page thing.2

Just incase you didn't receive my last thing I decided to put it here also. Can you please check this page and see wheather it is up to your satisfaction before I propose it the Adopt-a-user group. Thank you! 'The Ninjalemming'' —Preceding undated comment was added on 14:23, 19 February 2009 (UTC).[reply]

so the newcomer is supposed to take what you wrote and improve upon it? –xeno (talk) 14:28, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hurm, actually that could be part of it, but before you said that they were only meant to put on of the templates I am going to make (as I am not done yet), and put it on the pages talk page; then I/some one would give them some info (even if it is completely made up, which it proably will be) so they could put it on. It says at the beginning remember? But I will ow also put on somethings for them to improve on some ow. 'The Ninjalemming'' 14:32, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I just don't understand what you're planning on doing with it. I also think it's best if newcomers just go out into the mainspace and get their feet wet (i.e. as instructed at User:Xeno/wikiadopt#Cleanup patrol). (And I think you should be spending more time getting acquainted with editing the wiki yourself, before trying to help newcomers. Your addition to EndWar at the beginning of the month was great, but since then you've made a grand total of 2 edits to the mainspace). –xeno (talk) 15:22, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Cough" "cough" yeah "cough", I know I should but I can't find anything that hasn't been written that I don't know, there may be stuff that I know but can't find so can you give me some thing to do. I will keep the help thing on hold for several mounths before proposing it and just edit mainspace. By the way can you use books as references, if you can I maybe able to edit more. 'The Ninjalemming'' 16:07, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you can use books as references. See {{cite book}}. You don't need to write new stuff, you could just improve grammar on old stuff, etc. See the lesson I linked above to find articles needing work. –xeno (talk) 16:15, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It didn't work citng the book, I have put my attemp under my sandbox, can you please check it out and see what has gone wrong; sorry for troubling you. 'The Ninjalemming'' 17:09, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Cheer xeno, that was very helpful. Why didn't you stand for stewardship? you could easily do it. :) 'The Ninjalemming'' 17:49, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think stewards are meant to have some significant experience on more than 1 wiki and typically expected to have a working grasp of more than one language. thanks though =) –xeno (talk) 17:51, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Be careful that you don't have experience on too many wikis. Not that I'm bitter or anything. ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:58, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, the 'ole "too many hats" argument =) –xeno (talk) 18:01, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The funniest thing is that that argument would make no sense to my real-life friends; I'm quite well-known for wearing my black fedora everywhere I go. "Too many hats? What the hell, he's only got the one!" EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:07, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, I need a hat like that. But I have no idea where to get one. That picture made me wonder what you were doing, it looks like you were playing a harmonica or something, but then I realized you were just holding a camera. Useight (talk) 18:10, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea what you guys are on about, but oh well, from were I am standing it is still quite funny, please continue! yup, oh xeno I now have some more mainspace articles so don't worry that I don't do much for the Wide World of the Wikis as I am now trying to start again. 'The Ninjalemming'' 20:18, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I have more for xeno, how do you welcome some one as User:Daymeeee is new and hasn't been welcomed yet. Just saying, yo and out! 'The Ninjalemming'' 20:22, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just edit their talk page and type {{subst:welcomeh|Ninjalemming}} –xeno (talk) 20:28, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Er, where did I have to stop typing? 'The Ninjalemming'' 20:30, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Start at the first { and end at the last } –xeno (talk) 20:32, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, just when I first saw it, it was all messed up; I have welcomed him by the way. 'The Ninjalemming'' 21:13, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, can you cite magazines like you cite books or is it slightly different? wup 'The Ninjalemming'' 21:33, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, for ones I actually found out by myself, no need to try and help I di it myself; maybe I should tell the news this could be a big story! what do you think? 'The Ninjalemming'' 21:35, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

IRC

I need to talk to you about something, but it isn't appropriate to post it here, and I fear email may be a little in the way of slow business. If possible could you contact me on IRC, preferably at ##neurolysis? Thanks. — neuro(talk) 17:07, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and by the way, when you come in there could you please say the word 'neuro' or 'neurolysis' - that way it will notify me that you are there. Thanks. — neuro(talk) 17:11, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

EB

Check your mail. Cheers, yandman 17:12, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please delete/oversight this, too. --64.85.214.45 (talk) 17:26, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Replied. yandman 17:58, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

From what I see at the talkpage, am I to assume we're letting him/her/them stick around as long as they rename?? GJC 18:29, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, I took their positive contributions into consideration as a mitigating factor. A mistake? –xeno (talk) 18:32, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure, leaning toward "absolutely". My gut says RUN AWAY!, but I can't deny -some- positive contributions (mostly vandalism reverts, but then again, I'm one to talk, lately.) I just think it sets a bad precedent; positive contributions or not, the "it's not me, it's my mom (/brother/sister/roommate/frenemy/dog/alternate personality)" excuse is worn so thin you can read a novella through it, and I hate to see it legitimized, even "just this once". Good contributions or not, the fact remains: this user was deceiving the community, pretending to be someone they're not, and how do we know they're not STILL pretending? And I find this especially irksome because of the user's obsession with banned user User:Simulation12, who was doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING. It's your call; I've got my concerns, is all. GJC 19:01, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
yea, i don't really buy it either. i've no prejudice to you blocking if you think that's the best course of action. but most of us use personas, the problem here is that it was an actual person. –xeno (talk) 19:07, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not going to block...not now, anyway. As for "personas"...well, same could be said for me. Somewhere in the world, I'm sure there is an actual "Gladys J Cortez" (I know there is, b/c I Googled her) but it ain't me. The difference is, I make that crystal clear from my first post in any new environment--and other than the name, I don't invent or borrow other characteristics for myself. This person didn't tell anyone--in fact, I'm pretty sure he/she denied being anyone other than who she claimed to be--and either borrowed or invented characteristics for this persona. Like I said, I'm not blocking....but I will be watching the renamed one verrrry closely. Which is no reflection on you, incidentally; you're showing more good faith than I am, which is a good thing.GJC 19:23, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
sometimes a little too much, perhaps. But I will watch as well. thanks for the input. –xeno (talk) 19:24, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(undent, my glasses are lost and I can't count the correct number of colons) GJC pointed me to this thread, sorry if I'm sticking my nose in where it isn't welcome or needed. I've been concerned about this user for a while; in addition to the now-documented impersonation games, I'm concerned about their frequent participation in drama for the sake of drama on ANI threads, on article talk pages, and on the user talk pages of problem editors, frequently making things worse. They've also felt a little "stalky"; at one point I was called out on their talk page, and they certainly have tended to show up frequently in situations I've been involved in. GJC and I have discussed this user a few times before, and decided there was nothing we could really do, and agreed to keep an occasional eye on them (GJC more than me). However, I was quite surprised just now to see someone making preliminary RFA noises on their talk page, that motivates me to try to nip this in the bud if it isn't too late.

I know exactly where GJC is coming from, but I don't believe a block is appropriate or justifiable; they do make some legit edits, and there's no policy against being young, and you can't swing a dead cat around here without hitting half a dozen dramalovers. But this has been, IMHO, a borderline problem user that has now crossed over the border, if only slightly. At the risk of appearing Machiavellian, I wonder if we could take this opportunity to steer the user to a more productive editing style, insistently if necessary. Before, it would have been "something about you just seems a little off; I insist you get a mentor and back away from the drama". Now it can be "you've been impersonating someone in a somewhat disruptive manner; I insist you get a mentor and back away from the drama".

I know this is going to sound like wimping out, but I promise, it's the truth: In spite of the fact that I'm not great with kids and have been a bit annoyed by this person's behavior, I would have been willing to try to help guide them a little. But I'm hardly going to be online for a few weeks, and I've started weaning myself from daily participation even if/when I come back. I think someone else who is actually around more often would be better as a mentor. If anyone here wants to try (seems like it would be a lot of work), I think we have here a user who could benefit from a somewhat tighter leash for a while.

If y'all agree, I suggest we try to have some kind of control over who the mentor is. Someone has independently volunteered to do so on their talk page already, and I don't think that particular volunteer is a suitable mentor. I had in mind someone a bit older and wiser.

I'll try to check back in on this thread once or twice today in case you'd all like further unsolicited drive-by suggestions that complicate your lives. --barneca (talk) 21:08, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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