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re: Moving from the archive

Perhaps you should read the bullet points at the top of that page, namely:

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It shouldn't have been archived, because instead of having the common courtesy of returning to the thread and at least responding to my other query, you ignored it completely. I didn't flog a dead horse. I showed how deep the problematic edits had gone, and it's pathetic to think this type of stuff is allowed to go unpunished. You failed to read and understand the problem, which was quite obvious, and then didn't return when an even bigger problem arose.

You also told me to take it to a talk page, or to WP:DR, which is nothing more than a bunch of guidelines, and is not a place where I can take the problem to be solved. Maybe you linked me to the wrong page? Who knows. Regardless, the conversation continued on the other user's talk page anyway, but I guess you must've missed that. As for WP:VAND, his edits would at least fall under 'Sneaky vandalism' - Vandalism that is harder to spot, or that otherwise circumvents detection. This can include adding plausible misinformation to articles, hiding vandalism... and so on.

82.17.236.83 (talk) 16:14, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1976 Tangshan earthquake

Article credit

I noticed that the following DYKs did not happen to have received their article credit.

Thanks for looking into it. --Doug Coldwell talk 13:35, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Added the credits. I assume just the person doing the credits for those particular updates missed these. Thanks for pointing this out. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 13:22, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, no problem. Must have been. I don't know what happen exactly, since technically I am not that familiar with the process. None were mine, I just happened to have noticed it. --Doug Coldwell talk 13:49, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah...if this were an error by the bot I would inform nixeagle, but as far as I know those updates were posted by admins (since the bot has been down for a while), which means someone probably just forgot to do those. It looks like the user talk pages did get credited, so at least we don't need to worry about those. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 13:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Toonlet

Article was created by User:Toonlet; why would you remove the COI tag? --Orange Mike | Talk 15:24, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Because it was heavily edited by User:Steven Walling and is now pretty much unrecognizable from the original version. I think he cleared up the COI issues, although he hasn't totally made the article acceptable (as you will see, I added {{notability}} and {{advert}} tags, which you seem to have reverted, probably by accident). rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 15:40, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template notice

I think it should be left up for at least a couple of weeks yet. I'm sure there are plenty of people who contribute to DYK, but not all that regularly, who wouldn't know about the change yet. Gatoclass (talk) 15:42, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Measuring Intellect

Rjanak,

I do appreciate your initial look at the Article I was trying to publish. I do have the wirtten permission from Prof Brandin as I am one of his collegeus and a legal relative. Also, t article ha never been published (electronilally), only thorugh those hard-copy books I referenced using ISBN numbers ) So it is my original (graphical) work. To whom (e-mail address, please) I should send the permission form Prof Brendin to publish? Also, You have wrote a lot of criticisms the Self Nomination form about the general understanding of the concepts, etc. All these concepts are pretty new and unique and they are explained in the Introduction. I understand they are not easy. But the method itself is not for high-school grads too (please, no offense here!). It is very unique mathematical method, which can understood with at least some College degree or some Algebra/ Math. Analysis classes. The method itself can be standardized later on, but for now there is certain "threshold" by which it is understood. The method itself talking about that in the book. However, it created a lot of interest and popularity among students with Math major and group of people (mostly scientists) who do try to measure the Intellect more precisely (NOT the psychometric IQ method which I have referenced properly in the article. The only reason I could not provide a lot of wiki- references is because there are no much research on the subject in wiki. I will be happy to reference them, otherwise. Please, just type "intellect" and in the search window and you understand what I mean!!!)

How you suggest to reference something new and unique? How to link to this new article if these new concepts are new and revolutionary? What are the mechanisms to promote the article, if it seems to be prohibited by your Wiki Policy?

Could you help to point out how to work with the wiki's volunteers editors to improve it?

Thanks you!

Sincerely --Kreykh (talk) 16:53, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for your reply, for your tolerance and objectiveness. My respect , again, for your educational background and proficiency. Y I understand that (for the average reader) it might be a bit difficult to grasp these concepts. Dr. Brandin and I (as his collegue) were trying to explain these new conspectus in the best possible way. Our only wish is that it in fact it will became more accepted and understood. I will do my best to search more references throughout the internet. . Do you still believe that the article can have some place in the Wikipedia, even it is not widely accepted yet? Can t be just the reference to his books? What we can do to "promote" these ideas? My little e disappointment is just because Wikipedia is free why can't I just publish what has the official book, for example, if I am not competing with anyone and introducing the new concept or methodology, etc?
Also, if I will re-edit the page how I will make sure that the current "Improvement Suggestion" header is removed. Should I go ahead and start the new page and move it again? Please, advise!


Tully. thanks again and any of your help!
--Kreykh (talk) 17:33, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

re: Measuring Intellect - update

I have sent request to Permissions the approved by author e-mail to obtain the ticket number. Also, please, do not remove the article. I would like to modify it so it will be suitable. Also, the other idea is I have this notion of measurement the Intellect as the part of other bigger idea such as Intellect article. I am in contact with owner of the article asking him permission to post the references. --Kreykh (talk) 22:26, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help with DYK nom

Hi Rjanag. I am expanding Electoral district of Yeerongpilly, but I cannot figure out an interesting hook. I was wondering if you can have a look and see if you can work something out. ∗ \ / (⁂) 00:01, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hm...this is a tough one...do you know anything about why they changed the name? Yeerongpilly is an interesting placename. Or maybe we could do something about how the Queensland Sport and Athletics Centre is there. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 00:49, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not really - electoral districts aren't something most people can be bothered writing about. There are many unique Aboriginal placenames in Australia (my favourite being Anangu Pitjantjatjara Yankunytjatjara), but it isn't really anything remarkable. I'll keep parsing the census data and see if I can find any unique traits. ∗ \ / (⁂) 09:55, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This might work:
... that the percentage of Sudanese-born persons living in the electoral district of Yeerongpilly is twelve times the national average?
Thoughts?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Backslash Forwardslash (talk • contribs)
Ooh, yeah, I like that one. I don't know what the national average is, so it might not actually be a lot, but it at least looks like a lot and is hooking! rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 12:57, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a lot, but it's true. I'm nomming it now. :) ∗ \ / (⁂) 13:01, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Havana Silk Dog

as a member of the BOD for the HSDAA I have been given permission to use the information on our website www.havanasilkdog.com in our Wiki article. In fact, I've been tasked with continuing to add to our wiki article but find it difficult to understand the correct formating. Please quit redirecting our wiki page to a different breed. We have been recognized as a different breed by 4 different breed registries and are not considered the same breed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bespeckled one (talk • contribs) 14:48, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just a stylistic question about your DYK.

Well, I guess it was all said in the subject line, but I was wondering if the quotes in your hook about phonetics needed a tweak. Thanks. Interesting stuff. Law shoot! 07:50, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean whether the commas should be inside or outside the quotes? Either way is fine with me. My personal habit is not to use "logical" quotes (even though they are more logical...I was just always taught not to), but they do seem to be more common on Wikipedia. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 13:33, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I believe it is a US v. Europe thing. Myself, I prefer quotes outside of punctuation - as is how I was taught. I just thought I would bring it to your attention - seeing as how we were dealing with phonetics, I felt punctuation deserved its own attention as well, lol. Law shoot! 00:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nom

Sorry for being a while since the article was given a DYK as I haven't been on online for a while, but I really should say a big thank you for making it possible as I was going to accept that it wouldn't make it. Donnie Park (talk) 15:33, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also thanks for your help as well. Donnie Park (talk) 14:30, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Yi Wu Suo You

Updated DYK query On March 8, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Yi Wu Suo You, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 18:05, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK assistance with Knights of the Royal Oak

Thanks again for your DYK help with Knights of the Royal Oak. I see you've also been hard at DYK work as well! Cheers. ~Geaugagrrl talk 18:50, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedian for

Where's the documentation? I couldn't see any at the link you gave me. Gatoclass (talk) 15:01, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't bother reading the documentation, I just copied the code over. Hopefully it works, I guess you will hear about it soon enough if it doesn't! Gatoclass (talk) 09:02, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Casper Reel

Thanks for all the help on the artical.Purplebananasandelephants (talk) 01:42, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

elite force Dyk

I have submitted it for Dyk.It has been improved as requested by other editors.Now what should i do.Submitted on March 7.User:Yousaf465 (talk)

I have done the copyediting and cleanup for you. Now you will just need to wait for a DYK reviewer to re-review the article (please don't contact the reviewers directly; they will review your article, you just might need to wait a couple days. Contacting people too often might just make them annoyed).
Personally, I still think the article is too short (at 1507 characters, after my copyediting, it's technically over the minimum limit, but barely), and often fails to provide enough context to the reader. For example, in the sentence "New checkpoints were created and manned by the Elite Force"—where were the checkpoints created, and what were they for? In "Additional Inspector-General of Police, Elite Police, who is under the Additional IGP, CID, Punjab"—I have no idea what those acronyms stand for. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 03:24, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I want to know mistake with it so that i can further improve it.Your comments were very useful.I have improved all that.User:Yousaf465 (talk)

Yitong Law Firm

Thanks for taking a look. In fact Yitong has been actively defending (if that is the correct word) free speech and freedom of religion advocates in China for years. I am pulling together sources, including documentation of their U.N. Human Rights work from official U.N. documents. WP:Recentism is one thing, but would you agree we can lose the orphan tag?--Brad Patrick (talk) 04:09, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the notability tag can't be removed unless enough pages link to it. I know I removed a link from the Hu Jia page, but now that I look at it, a link could probably be included there, just not the way you presented it the first time (all in its own paragraph)—it needs to be better integrated into the text. If you can find a few other pages after that and also reasonably get them to link to Yitong Law Firm, then the tag can be removed.
As for recentism, I trust you that the firm is notable, but you still need to demonstrate that with major coverage in reliable, independent sources; just saying so at my talk page is, unfortunately, not enough. From what I can see, all but one of the sources in the current article are about the February shutdown, and the only one that is not (the Chinese Christian Human Rights Advocates) is really only a passing mention (it's not even about the law firm, but is about a guy). Likewise, the UN report you linked at the talk page also appears to be only a passing mention. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 13:06, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes there was a good reason... If there is no space there than people include and post the category on the guys pages they love. And we get a lot of userrs in the template category, which needs to be found and restored. I did that myself a while ago.


Warrington (talk) 23:33, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cookies!
{{{1}}}

Now your page was in the category cookies and nobody have noticed that

Warrington (talk) 23:51, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Yes but new people do not know what <noincluded> means, so they take everything, that is why I tried to put some space between them. There were about 9 users in the category Wikilove tempates. Warrington (talk) 00:06, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. And you can keep the cookie, I love you :).

Warrington (talk) 00:19, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Message

Hello, Rjanag. You have new messages at Shubinator's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

RE:WikiBirthday

Thank you very much. It has been a pleasure to contribute to Wikipedia. --Bluedenim (talk) 11:04, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Phonological rule

Updated DYK query On March 13, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Phonological rule, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Victuallers (talk) 16:17, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wuhan page edit

Hi, the reason I changed the picture on the right column details section was because your images are out of date. If you won't let someone update to more current images than why don't you do the updates yourself? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shawnfog (talk • contribs) 16:34, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Images and DYK nom template

I think "|right" needs to be added in again, otherwise the pictures don't float. I'm pretty sure these two noms both used the template, but the picture came out wacky. T:DYK floats images by putting it in a floating div. Shubinator (talk) 18:12, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, that's a good point. I feel like I removed the "|right" a couple days ago, I wonder why this problem didn't show up until now; maybe I just wasn't paying close enough attention.
Anyway, I removed |right because apparently we don't want it on T:DYK (it causes the hooks not to wrap properly, or something) and I figured this would save people the trouble of having to remember to remove it when they promote hooks. So maybe, to get the best of both worlds (keep promoters from having extra work, and keep images from looking terrible on T:TDYK) I can just use the same code that T:DYK and T:DYK/N use.
Here's the edit.... here's what it looks like in a nom (and here's what the nom looks like in the edit window)...do you think this is a good solution? The extra code might scare people, but oh well, they'll learn. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 18:20, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good. It's not too much extra code, and I think most people don't look past the <!-- and ---> bracketing the hook. Thanks! Shubinator (talk) 18:26, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template_talk:Did_you_know#Typewriter_in_the_Sky

Responded. Cirt (talk) 21:13, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Submitting Street News for DYK

Hi. I want to submit Street News that we worked on to DYK. Have a look if you want to change something first. Is "... that Street News in New York was the first modern street newspaper, sold by homeless to make a living" a good hook, is there some more exiting fact? --Apoc2400 (talk) 21:54, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I didn't notice. Thank you! I modified the hook a little (added "in New York"). I hope it's ok. --Apoc2400 (talk) 22:05, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Communicating via edit summaries

I assume the messages in your latest edit summaries in Leptotrombidium are aimed at me. That will comprehensively confuse the author. I am afraid if you want to discuss this with me you will have to come to my talk page as I have just taken both the article and DYK off my watchlist. SpinningSpark 03:14, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Hey, Don't sale yourself short having any DYK article recieve over 5,000 views is a great Honor, You should be proud of yourself. Congratulations! Have A Great Day! Lord R. T. Oliver The Olive Branch 02:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I know what you mean, sometimes working on Wikipedia feels like you are a janitor, trying to clean things up and make them better. Have A Great Day! Lord R. T. Oliver The Olive Branch 02:48, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Are you a Member, or have you thought about becoming a member of the Military History WikiProject your article Baibars was very interesting! Have A Great Day! Lord R. T. Oliver The Olive Branch 02:54, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Since you addressed a problem with my DYK of List of former championships in World Wrestling Entertainment on March 14, I would like to inform you that I came up with alt. hooks. --Best, ₮RUCӨ 16:15, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moving a Page

Thank you for informing me about that in the case of Megatokyo. The official title was MegaTokyo not Megatokyo, so I wanted to correct it. I assure you I wasn't aware of the 'move' feature, which I would have used otherwise.

Yours thankfully, Oxwil

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