Talk:Matt Stone

Citations

This article is seriously lacking in the citations department Anyone who edits this article in the future should make sure to cite whatever they put on --Gilimonster 16:25, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Scientology?

I can't find anything to verify the claim that Matt Stone or Trey Parker "...along with Isaac Hayes are well known members of the Church of Scientology". I can find plenty of references to Isaac Hayes being a scientologist, none for Matt Stone or Trey Parker. What is the basis for this claim? (unsigned 03:58, 29 June 2005 by 24.22.182.188)

edit by someone who does not know how to use this system: one south park episode criticised scientology. I believe it was season nine, episode 12.

If you listen to the commentary to the season 4 episode "Timmy! 2000" they mention that Isaac Hayes got a big kick out of the episode because, in Trey's approximate words, "Scientologists, for all the crazy things they do, are really against Psychology." This goes on a bit, the point being: Hayes IS, Stone/Parker are not. They are also not Mormon. - Darkhawk (3 March, 2006 3:20 PM EST)

I believe that they are agnostic, though very firmly not atheists. One of them said somewhere about South Park's perceived lack of respect toward God, something along the lines of, "You can't make fun of what you don't believe in." While disagreeing and ridiculing some of it's institutions and problems, they clearly have a certain respect for Christianity (as well as most religions-there just probably don't have as much to say about them since they live in a mostly Christian country). They seem to be agnostics in the since that they believe that humans cannot know about the existence or nature of God. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gtbob12 (talk • contribs) 21:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

They are far from scientologists, and consider it, as per the words of Kyle, "...a fruity little club." As to Their beliefs, I remember hearing a quote once by Matt Stone, I think, about him thinking that "the most absurd idea of all is that everything happened randomly, for no reason." Making them un-atheist.(Lmao, a little side note, the FireFox spellcheck doesn't recognize "scientologist" as a word.) C. Pineda (クリス) (talk) 06:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Half-Jew?

If his mother was/is Jewish, he is a Jew, not a half Jew, according to traditional Jewish beliefs. See: Who is a Jew? --Der Sporkmeister 00:15, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, that's as may be. But his mother was a non-practicing Jew, and to be the best of my limited knowledge, Matt has never explicitly declared himself to be an observant Jew, either. I guess the safest thing one could say, is that he is of Jewish descent. Not that it really matters to me what Matt Stone believes in, as long as he doesn't start jumping couches. -- Jalabi99 12:01, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

yeah, he would be jewish according to jewish tradition but he prefers the "biological" explaination, showing that he actually doesn't give a shit to jewish ancestry.

• "Jewish" refers both to a religion AND a race. It is quite possible to be Jewish and not believe in god. Therefore whether or not a Jew "practices" or is "observant" is utterly irrelevant. -- 86.17.211.191 13:47, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

At last! Someone else who realises this!! If only there were a few million more of us. 62.25.106.209 20:55, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Right, but, as a race, it doesn't matter if it is passed down through the mother or father. according to the race being based entirely and irrefutably on whether or not the mother is Jewish could mean that if my mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother was Jewish and each woman married a Christian, than I am a Jew and just don't know it because of my Protestant upbringing. Conversely, if I thought my self to be Jewish in religion, race, and heritage, but that same distant ancestor of mine were not Jewish, than I am not a Jew. While the Jewish tradition may hold that it is the mother's lineage that determines an ethnic Jew, the fact is is that the rest of us, including those born to a Jewish mother, may not subscribe to that, and not consider himself a Jew. I know that Judaism is a race which some people do not understand. I am 1/8 Jew, which some people stupidly mistake to mean that I "1/8 don't believe in Jesus (I am completely serious)." However, it is also a cultural identity, which, regardless of the mother, some are brought up in and some are not. The mother thing is more of a Jewish tradition in determining who is allowed to say they are an ethnic Jew, but in American culture, you cannot proclaim someone, against their will and because of their mother to be a total Jew (not in a negative way, I have nothing against Jews and in fact believe that it is absolutely appalling how much anti-semitism is allowed to be expressed by people in respected positions-like college professors and highly thought of journalists-without receiving the admonition and loss of respect that bigotry towards other groups brings). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gtbob12 (talk • contribs) 21:20, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Cannibal! The Musical

IMDB doesn't give Matt a writing credit in Cannibal! or in the credits of the DVD. Where are we getting him as a writer and producer?

He is Not Pro Life!

Along with Trey, someone put up that they were "Pro Life celebrities". There is no evidence supporting this and there is probaly more pointing towards Pro-Choice (If you need to see the evidence, go to Talk:Trey Parker), even though there is not enough evidence to go either way.

Article Seems to Be Lifted Nearly Wholesale

While looking for clear pictures of his wife Emma Sugiyama to place within this article, I found page]. As you can see, this article seems to have been lifted nearly wholesale from the page. I wonder what others thing about removing or otherwise re-editing the article here on Wikipedia, so that it is less derivative of the other page. -- Jalabi99 12:11, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Vegan?

This article states that he's a vegan, but doesn't provide any evidence to support that claim, and google searches have proven fruitless. 24.111.62.76 Not to mention the fact that in "Fun with Veil", they say (through their characters) something along the lines of "Eating tortured baby cows is wrong, but if you don't eat meat at all, you'll break out in little vaginas." That would seem to me that they scoff even at vegetarians, not to mention full on vegans.

Writer or not?

Does Matt Stone help write any of the South Park episodes? He isn't listed with the staff writers in the credits, and Trey's the only main writer listed. Dr. Trey 11:31, 28 May 2006 (UTC) Trey writes the final scripts from the episodes but the ideas come from Trey,Matt and several other writers. Matt also wrote the final scripts from several episodes of the first three seasons. User:Alfredosolis

Trey Parker has a longer article than Matt Stone

Is there any reason why Trey Parker has a longer Wikipedia article than Matt Stone? It's almost twice the length with more pictures and biographical information. They are often mentioned in the same breath as one another and it seems odd that there is such a difference. -thealexfish 24.131.157.78 09:21, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

You make a good observation. I think, however, that you're asking the wrong question. Honestly, Parker and Stone are two different people! Just because "they are often mentioned in the same breath as one another" doesn't mean they have to have the same-length Wikipedia entries! If you have information to contribute to Stone's article, then by all means do so, but the lengths of the articles are completely irrelevant! 71.201.59.110 08:47, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Brother

Does Matt has an adopted brother? or Ike is just an idea.

More importantly, does John Stamos have a brother? That article says yes, the Big Gay Al episode article says no. Inconsistency abounds. --Fire Star 火星 01:04, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Matt has a sister, he mentions her in that new(ish) Rolling Stone article. --obsessical

Republican?

In a lot of South Park related sites, there is talk of Stone having claimed to be a Republican. Didn't he say that while being given an award at a event run by a prominent liberal? If so, it seems to be an acceptance-speech type of joke, meant to be ironic and not to be taken seriously. Now, it is clear that I have no idea if this is actually the case or not, I am just wondering if anyone else does. Let me know here or on my talk page. Tractorkingsfan 14:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I've read somewhere he is a registered Republican. Here he is listed as a libertarian. Zchris87v 06:55, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I've heard he was a libertarian. libertarians often times will register as republicans. they are adamantly against the religious right, but I think that they oftentimes feel that there is still somewhat of a libertarian, "keep the government out of our lives" strain still left in the republican party that does not exist in the democratic party, although the libertarians agree with both parties on some issues. there is no doubt that south park, as well as Team America, have some obvious conservative/Republican sympathies, though I imagine that is largely due to the perceived liberal bias of Hollywood and the media, as well as the counter-culture that they so obviously belong to. I'm actually going to write a wikipedia article on their politics and that of the show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gtbob12 (talk • contribs) 20:51, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Kerry donation & citation; MySpace link

This sentence was previously part of the trivia section: "He gave $1000 to Democrat John Kerry's presidential campaign on April 28, 2004" with the accompanying link: [1] The Matthew Stone from this link doesn't appear to be the same Matt Stone this page describes, as I don't think he was ever associated with "Stone Dog Productions, Inc.", so I deleted the sentence. Also, a previous version of the article included a link to a Myspace account that didn't appear to be legitimate, which I also deleted. frakkingjossome 23:51, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Michael Moore

I remember a Spin Magazine article where Trey Parker said distinctly: "I fucking hate that guy." I'll try to look it up, but it directly contradicts what's on the page now. Check out September 2005 issue, I believe that is where the quote is. --Jamesanth2 03:11, 7 April 2007 (UTC)jamesanth2 Ok, unfortunately all I can find is this blog article which talks about the existence of this interview and then says that you can't find it online. Read it if you're interested. http://www.spitbull.blogspot.com/2005_10_01_spitbull_archive.html--Jamesanth2 03:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC)Jamesanth2

From what I can recall, Matt doesn't care nearly as much about Michael Moore as Trey does. Because I remember once Matt saying he felt he was fairly represented in the interview, but Trey was pissed that everybody who saw the movie thought that he and Matt did the cartoon. --obsessical 11:19, 21 April 2007

== Heterophobic == Is it true that he is heterophobic? El Chompiras i didnt even think he was gay 17:34, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Giant Monsters Attack Japan!

I've created an article for Matt and Trey's upcoming film, Giant Monsters Attack Japan!. It is in need of expert editing. If you want to help improve the article, you can discuss it on the talk page. Thank you.--Swellman 03:50, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Residence

In a recent Rolling Stone (RS) article, March 2007, Matt Stone said he was having trouble with Venice City, CA, local planning regarding a fence around his home. He no longer lives in Pacific Palisades.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/south_park_still_sick_still_wrong

Excerpt from RS article: Stone, it seems, is having some problems with the city of Venice, California, over the height of a fence he wants to build around his house, and has been subject to multiple community-board meetings in elementary-school gymnasiums presided over by gray-ponytailed dudes ("Anytime a guy with a ponytail is telling me what to do, I get bummed out," he says)

IdontcarewhatuthinkIdontcarewhatuthink 14:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Canada

Ok, what is it with these guys Trey and Matt and Canada?

Working in student exchanges, 30 years ago most of these kids didn't even know where Canada was. Today they all know and even want to go there, thinking its a nice place and people.

They're both born and raised in the US right?

So what's with them and Canada? Befuddler (talk) 09:51, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Columbine

I thought he said on Bowling for Columbine that he did go to Columbine High School. It's been a while since I saw that - did I forget something?155.188.183.5 (talk) 20:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Matt has stated numerous times that he did not attend Columbine High School although a lot of people assume that he did because of his part in the documentary.68.60.136.43 (talk) 01:32, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Film and Mathematics?

Matt's bio states that he was the first student to hold a degree in both film and mathematics. Trey Parker's, however, says the same thing.

So which is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.138.14.102 (talk) 01:43, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

According to [[2]], Trey took Japanese at Boulder. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.100.186.165 (talk) 14:21, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I removed it from both, as the other info given seems to contradict it (one got no degree, and the other one in maths, therefore neither got double majors. But even the preceding sentences might be false, given the lack of citations.Yobmod (talk) 11:35, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

On the subject of degrees, the article currently states that:

“He attended the University of Colorado and completed two undergraduate degrees in both film production and math.”

This is badly worded. To say that he “completed two undergraduate degrees” would mean that he spent 8 years at the University (4 years for each degree), or he took a Double Degree (working on two separate degrees in parallel) . A Double Degree is not the same as a Double Major (one degree but with two attached subjects).

IMDB

IMDB is not the greatest source to use. This should be removed and replaced. Cirt (talk) 01:12, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

No mention of Stone's hating Liberals (even more)

I'm quite sure it was in the article before, now it's gone; just another example of Wikipedia's disparate impact on anything negative towards liberals. Lawyer2b (talk) 00:12, 11 March 2009 (UTC)