Talk:Mantis shrimp

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Why has this page been listed for deletion? I followed the wikipedia guidelines, I took about 45 minutes to compile information, take notes, and condense them. Then wrote an article of my own with my own voice. Simply because many of the facts are similar shouldn't be a cause for concern - facts are facts. And, infact, the two external links were pages that I used very little. They are simply more straight-forward and contain far more useful multimedia content (the Lurker's site has videos of the creature) than the rest. --Clone 17:29, 17 Aug 2003

I have copied your above comment to the Votes for deletion page. Further discussion should occur there. Angela 17:30, 17 Aug 2003 (UTC)

By the way, Jimfbleak has just retracted this from votes for deletion. Angela 17:58, 17 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. It did seem a little rash. Best regards.--Clone 18:43, 17 Aug 2003

Hey, I was voted for deletion on Skull (mythology) and on Golden Gate Park! They thought it was written by Voltaire. I was flattered!Wetman 05:11, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Their cuticle

If they can strike with a force comparable to a small-calibre bullet, their cuticle on their claws has to be incredible tough and hard. Is there anyone who knows how much it can take before it brakes? Vertebrate bone is said to be stronger then the cuticle found in many invertebrates, also calcified cuticle. But in mantis shrimps it has to be a lot harder than the average exoskeleton.

According to this video, the cuticle does break down, however it gets replaced when they shed their skin. jon (talk) 09:39, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More info

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Shrimpressive

Mantis shrimp appear to be highly intelligent...

For shrimp, I take it. "Highly intelligent" still seems to be a bit over the top. Their described behavior doesn't seem that awe-inspiring. Besides, if they're that smart, how come they end up in sushi? (Just kidding. I'm sure I could end up in sushi too if I'm not careful.) 194.151.6.67 13:54, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

may benefit from improved references

If every statement in this article can be properly footnoted, this article should be nominated for Featured status. 38.100.34.2 00:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, I'm adding some citation tags to the behavior section and will try to help after a trip to the library either tomorrow or monday.--Thusled 02:17, 5 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thusled (talk • contribs)

Striking speed

"speeds of 23 m/s from a standing start [5], about the speed and force of a .22 caliber bullet" - this doesn't seem right. Muzzle velocity for .22 Long Rifle ammunition is more like 100m/s and up. Can somebody with access check the cited Nature article? --122.105.39.105 (talk) 11:28, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The nature article doesn't mention speed/force of any bullets. Here's the relevant quote from the paper:

"we have measured the dactyl heel reaching peak speeds of 14–23 m s-1, peak angular speeds of 670–990 rad s-1, and peak acceleration of 65–104 km s-2 within an average period of 2.7 ms, making O. scyllarus perhaps the fastest appendicular striker in the animal kingdom."

The youtube video used as a reference, reference 5 (by the way, is that standard practice to reference youtube?), mentions the bullet speed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.205.106 (talk) 17:39, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Editing the Behavior Section.

Either tomorrow or Monday I'm going to see if I can't find good references for this section and expand on some incomplete ideas. Until then I have added expansion and missing reference tags to the section. I'm a very new contributor, so bear with me and if you can impart some advice on how to handle these issues please let me know. My issues with the section are as follows:

The section lacks citations for much of its content.
Weasel words (I've tagged two major problem areas). I don't doubt the veracity of the section, but it's currently too vague.
Some ideas deserve more explanation, such as the sentence: "Many have developed complex social behaviour to defend their space from rivals."
The last paragraph seems to be describing a behavior observed in unique circumstances and is given undue weight, though I think this problem is merely due to the lack of explanation for more common behaviors and I have not changed it, except to clarify one sentence.

I'll try to address some of these problems soon. When I make my edits, I'll try to keep the British spelling favored at the moment unless someone thinks it would be better to change that.--Thusled (talk) 02:50, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]