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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 213.66.219.48 (talk) at 12:38, 18 November 2009 (→‎reception (cont'd): new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Similarity to Battlestar Galactica

I'm wondering if I should add a section about the extreme similarity to BattleStar Galactica. It's obvious that this show was influenced heavily if not blatantly ripped off Battlestar Galactica. A few examples:

  • In both shows, a group of people are alone on a large ship, and as far as they know are the only living humans in the galaxy
  • They are both in a constant struggle to survive with limited resources, and they hope to one day reach Earth.
  • Both have many civilians as well as military personnel, and in both cases neither the military or civilians are prepared for what happens.
  • Both focus on drama and interpersonal conflicts as much as or more than action
  • Both use frequent flashbacks to further character and plot development.
  • Both use music and lighting to create a dark, somber mood contrasted with bright scenes of Earth(both realtime and flashbacks), and on alien planets
  • In both shows there is a genius lead scientist with questionable ethics and motives, who is frequently distrusted and hated by his colleagues. In Both cases the scientist is directly responsible for the predicament of everyone else.
All of this is original research, and cannot be included per Wikipedia:No original research. Ωphois 23:22, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Episode Airing Dates

I don't know how to change TBA to the dates that I found at [1] and I was hoping that somebody else would be able to change them.--Kluckie (talk) 15:30, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Look and learn, this is how adding airdates is done, hope you know how to do it in the future. Thanks. -- Matthew R Dunn (talk) 16:57, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

title card

Anubis 10545 (talk · contribs) uploaded a new version of File:SGUTVlogo.jpg recently, screencaptured from the new trailer. I think the previous version is more representative of the show's actual logo as demonstrated elsewhere on the official site, whereas the lens flare that was added in this iteration seems to be more an artifact of the trailer than an aspect of the logo itself. Does anybody have any input on the matter? — pd_THOR | =/\= | 00:04, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, I think that the previous version of the title card should be used until we see what the title on the opening sequence looks like. However, I'd be fine with this version or the previous one, as there is not much difference in either version of the title card. Black Sabre (talk) 03:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I agree. Lens flare is just decoration for the trailer, not actually part of the logo. Rehevkor ✉ 22:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

serialisation

"SGU will be more serialized" "There is a conscious effort to avoid making SGU too serialized"

I realise both quotes are cited, but surely we should have one or the other? Perhaps stick with the later statement?

213.120.222.100 (talk) 10:51, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Either that or a line to recognise the contradiction. Tom walker (talk) 21:41, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's not really a contradiction. It's going to be more serialized than SG-1 or Atlantis, but they don't want it too serialized like in Lost. Ophois (talk) 21:46, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

International broadcasters

an IP address keeps adding a table that is unsourced, redundant and unnecassary, yet is insistant that the table stay, despite going against at least three other editors. What do you think should be the best plan of action? -- Matthew R Dunn (talk) 19:57, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You could request semi-protection. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 02:10, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

International broadcasters. Do we really need it?

Some users keeps adding International broadcaster tabel in article! Is this information really necessery! If you think that it is, then explain why!Vilnisr (talk) 17:24, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, because it saves time (easier) to find the date ya looking for when ya in a hurry. Plus if there is more that just 1 season like Eureka, those date will be added on too Shanedehe (talk) 19:24, 29 September 2009
Admin comment Shanedhe, please do not edit war. You have reverted the text multiple times, under your account and as an IP, contrary to the revert guidelines. Please reach consensus here first. --Ckatzchatspy 18:40, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have anything against the idea of having something there, but the most recent version of said data was wholly unreferenced and, ergo, unacceptable in the article. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 18:58, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
wikipedia is a on-line encyclopedia, not tv guide, and it doesn't need all dates from all broadcasters, only the firts air date of season and episode, there are too many countries and broadcasters on planet, but it's possible to make a separated page and add a link in broadcast section! Consider it!Vilnisr (talk) 19:59, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It breaches WP:RS... which means remove.... okay?. --TIAYN (talk) 21:29, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The info and sources are in the article intro. Powergate92Talk 04:45, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It will be close to impossible to find references SGU broadcasting in non-English countries. --TIAYN (talk) 05:40, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What doe's that have to do with this? Powergate92Talk 05:45, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Judging from the other SG articles and the whole lot of popular-around-the-world-TV articles, broadcaster tables get so long that they are usually left out of the article. (If someone comes to en-wiki to learn where a popular TV show airs in his country, he can usually find the information easily through the interwiki links.) Since SGU will very likely be shown all over the world too, I think it's best to not start a broadcaster table at all. This article version had a nice paragraph on all (or most) of the broadcasters in the English-speaking part of the world. Just bring back that paragraph (i.e. prose) under a new section called "Broadcast". Prose is better than a table to prevent the information from becoming a deletion-worthy pile-on mess, and can be kept short and usable for just English-speaking countries by adding "In the English-speaking world, SGU airs ...". – sgeureka t•c 07:17, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well if we are to add a big tabel of all the countries were the show is broadcasted, we needs references. Which will be close to impossible to find!. --TIAYN (talk) 20:31, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Again the references are in the article intro. Powergate92Talk 20:36, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but most broadcasting tabels includes other countries, seen Eureka for example. The user wants is like this, he has even given various examples of it. --TIAYN (talk) 05:17, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What for? Why this table is so important and necessary in article? If someone just want to show where Universe was (will be) shown, then he can simply make a 'Stargate Universe international broadcast' article page and just add a link in main article, so he can put there all countries and dates all over the world! just leave alone main article!Vilnisr (talk) 07:31, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Awkward language in "Premise and Themes" section

There is an awkward-sounding sentence in the section of the article entitled "Premise and Themes":

"The differences between good and evil will be less apparent, as the ship will be populated with flawed and unprepared characters who were not supposed to go here."

The last phrase is inconsistent with the rest of the sentence. First, use of the word "here" is unencyclopedic; I believe the appropriate word is "there". Second, I get the feeling that it was copied verbatim from the source; if it is, it belongs in quotes.

Pottersson (talk) 01:56, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

title card redux

Since Anubis 10545 (talk · contribs) seems to average 1-3 edits per month, I don't know if he'll get the message I left for him at his talk page (User talk:Anubis 10545#SGU title card) in due time. I'll C&P it here for us to discuss please.

With regards to this image, the most recent version you uploaded cannot be claimed to under the licensing that's already there, and needs to get new sourcing, licensing, a detailed fair-use rationale, etc. Considering this, and considering WP:NFCC#1, I wonder if you would consider the previous version that can stay libre-licensed and more widely-used than the new one. I would also point out the precedent at House, where contributors there extracted the libre elements and have a representative image that can be widely used across the project without running afoul of the non-free content policy. What do you think?

— pd_THOR | =/\= | 07:48, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted the image Anubis 10545 uploaded as it was not PD and doe's not meet WP:NFCC#1. Powergate92Talk 18:24, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reception?

Any info on the show's reception yet? That is all. --Kallath (talk) 22:06, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

From a cursory glance at mos to the community and websites, from the SciFi forums to Hulu, it seems the general reaction is not positive. However, there is a disappointing lack of verified reviews from credible and noteworthy sources. --76.118.51.154 (talk) 11:12, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
IGN has reviews of Air (see: Air 1 and Air part 2) and Darkness (see: [2]). I don't know how useful they will be. [SCΛRECROW]Cross-Com 2.0 11:06, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
By the looks of things it's not too good, and I'd have to agree; the plot's the same in every episode and there's no 'bad guy'. But we're only 8 episodes in (as of 15/11/09) and there's still plenty of chance for development, so I don't think this section should be added until at least half way through the first season. 220.245.127.197 (talk) 17:09, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It would seem a list of reviews are located here, [3]. I think as mentioned above they are mostly based on the earliest episodes and not the more recent ones. I would agree to wait before making a reception section until mid season. I think things arent as clear yet with the series, but from what i seem theresz equal praise and critiscism thus far. Does anyone know if there will be a mid season break?., that may allow more time for reviews to appear on the web about the first half of the season by reputable sources?Ottawa4ever (talk) 11:34, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Filming

There should be a remark on how different Universe is from other Stargate-franchise. Filming (esp. on space-scenes) is much more like Battlestar Galactica with its shaky close-ups and zooming effects than the 'traditional' Stargate SG1 or Atlantis series.

Also Destiny is way 'dirtier' to look at than the very clean and tidy Atlantis/... 130.83.244.131 (talk) 11:01, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I THINK remember Rush mention in somewhere in the first few episodes that Destiny predates the building of Atlantis. If I find it, I'll get back. Paul Roberton (talk) 03:48, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The external shots of the Pentagon

The external shots of the Pentagon, which I assume are the offices of O'Neill and his staff (including Harriman I may add)... the nerve centre of Homeworld Security? Paul Roberton (talk) 03:55, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

reception (cont'd)

Sorry but I strongly disagree (that we should "wait" before adding a reception section). When did Wikipedia add guidelines that TV series couldn't be evaluated before X episodes were shown (for a value of X exceeding 8, I might add)?!

Instead, I added a modest reception section myself. Feel free to elaborate on it, but please don't knee-jerk revoke it - this page deserves and demands a reception section!

Cheers, 213.66.219.48 (talk) 12:38, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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