Talk:Man

This is ridiculous..Please get rid of this photo! If there is was a photo of a naked woman im sure there would be outrage —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.86.93 (talk) 16:24, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

No there wouldn't.

Why the hell is there a nude picture of a man in here?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.132.128.192 (talk) 17:21, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Because it's relevant.

Wikipedia knows what is happening. We have a class C for quality while at the same time a Top Class for priority. We should live with that for an open source, free encyclopedia. Mr. Wales, thanks for the opportunity.

Some features of this article are kind of uncomfortable for me. The definition of the features of a man were given by a woman. Thanks for the attempt but she is rather describing her prince charming than making a scholar, scientific or anthropological approach.

Without being too scientific I think we should differentiate the biological from the sociological, from the philosophical, from the functional in the family, from the purely sexual, from the stereotype, from the cultural and so on avoiding cross category judgments. To be shocking enough, being a man in jail, at war, as a parent with a newborn baby at home, in an uncompromised one night stand with a gorgeous woman, in your daily routine with your beloved and faithful wife and kids and as james bond are social roles so wildly apart that the attempts of definitions should be somehow structured in different points of view to allow justice.

In phylosophical terms the ideal of man is well defined in classical Greek culture with the concept of honor, virility, glory and so on. That is primitive but highly efficient in the sense of attending female expectations. A woman wants a man of honor. Still today the concept is applicable. But today there is the concept of new order, liberalism, equality between men and women, marriage and what women expect of it, divorce, pension, work, etc. The social trend makes pressure on man to get away from an honor based definition to a socially acceptable definition of man where honor is not the top priority. A lot of suffering today comes from the difference between the archetypes and the real life situations men and women are confronted.

Women are having the upper hand since they are more prone to express, discuss and evaluate feelings publicly.

Suggestions and critics from male and female readers are expected and welcome.

ManAtWork100 (talk) 11:44, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Your comments seem sensible to me. What changes to the article do you suggest. Martin Hogbin (talk) 12:25, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

^^^ that.

22 year old man image

What's going on with the image? Why is there some photoshop work going on to add hair? Are we going to add hair to the image used in the Woman article as well?

Matt Yohe (talk) 03:36, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Why naked?

Surely a picture of a man wearing clothes will give you the same effect.

Sometimes I think Wikipedia is run by monkeys. Seriously don't care if Wikipedia is censored or not, use common sense! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.219.139.230 (talk) 09:51, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

GET RID OF THE PICTURE

REALLY. Children use Wikipedia. --79.13.175.167 (talk) 19:21, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree - the picture is terrible and needs to go. A couple of arguments why: 1) Wikipedia is used all the time in schools and offices, where nudity and nude photos are not considered appropriate. 2) "Man" is a pretty broad and generic-sounding topic that should have a non-controversial article with non-controversial images. We can tell this is a controversial image by the number of posts about it. 2) Almost always when you see a "man" in the real world, he is not naked. Shouldn't the picture portray the subject as it is normally encountered? All of these arguments would also apply to the "Woman" article. Dunncon13 (talk) 14:38, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

There is a naked woman in the woman article. --97.112.49.34 (talk) 22:59, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

This is why we should change the image.

The picture is unaesthetic and encyclopedic. Wikipedia is supposed to emulate an encyclopedia, and when you open a credible encyclopedia to "male" you don't find a ugly pasty white unhealthy looking guy with baby fat. You find something that is coherent with a certain artistic design, like how all Wikipedia links are blue, mainly white background with then black print so it's easy on the eyes, etc. are images should correspond with that. It just looks really awkward. Just like you want decent writing, you want a decent images. Politically correctness, intellectually, is just stupid logic. Obviously every person who finds this page really cringes. I don't get why it has been up here so long. This page might be locked by some guy in his bathrobe that never leaves his house, I don't know, but someone with power just change it... The statue of Davis? Or a sketch drawing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.28.185 (talk) 00:25, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

How quaintly Victorian! Well, I didn't cringe. The picture (and the other one at "woman") actually reminds me of photos in one of our schoolbooks back in Scotland thirty years ago. --Doric Loon (talk) 22:36, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

You fat old guy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.28.185 (talk) 20:15, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

True. Definitely too round! Haven't been able to get into my kilt for years. --Doric Loon (talk) 19:15, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Racial Exclusion

All images on this page are of white men or of statues men represented as white by white men. Seeing as white men are much less than half of all men on earth, it is not representative that all the images should be of white men. --97.112.49.34 (talk) 23:02, 19 February 2010 (UTC)