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The question arises because I have seen claims by Darul Ihsan Univ, and some other Universities that those are the first pvt univs..... Can anyone cite a definitive reference on this? Until then, I guess we can omit the fact. --Ragib 07:15, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

NSU isn't the first private univ in Bangladesh. The following univs were established before NSU:

And this link (Darul Ihsan University (DIU)) shows DIU was established in 1989.--NAHID 17:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NSU is the first granted private university.

I agree that many other Universities claim that theirs are the first, But the thing is that they might have started operating without the approval of the UGC of Bangladesh. North South University is the First one to get the approval as a Private university. So, officially North South University is the First Private University of Bangladesh and also holds the first position in the UGC ranking. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bakedcaked (talk • contribs) 07:45, 29 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

UGC does NOT have a ranking of universities. Also, a reference will be helpful to support the former claim. --Ragib 08:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed--NAHID 20:02, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Banglapedia site suggests NSU as the first private University. Source: [1]. Here's another site suggesting same. Source: [2]

References are provided :)--NAHID 08:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Proposing separate section for Accreditation and Collaboration

Lamea and Nahid, I think a separate section for Accreditation and Collaboration will be more appropriate than just putting all the names (affiliated universities) in the info box. Please think about it. Niaz bd 10:05, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think so.--NAHID 07:49, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
But adding Accreditation and Collaboration with foreign universities isn't encyclopedic at all--NAHID 08:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do agree. I'll also remove this section from East West University page. But, affiliation with any research organization or group is quite fine. Ivy League, Russel Group, Coimbra Group, Group of Eight, IDEA League, Universitas 21 etc are some famous research led university groups and respective universities have the template added at their articles. Niaz bd 10:41, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

About tag flooding!

Nahid, I do agree that I was too harsh on this article but there was a reason. Some of the NSU guy created NSUSS page and uploaded their pictures without any text. They are using WP as a self-promoting site. Moreover, it became a common trend that people associated with NSU are including their website links as an External Link where there is no direct connection with the main article. Simply self-promotion, nothing else. By adding those tag I tried to draw their attention and convey a message that Stop self-promotion and try to improve your university article. Anyway, soon after I felt that I was too rude on that article and tried to remove few of the tags but due to internet connection shutdown I couldn't. Thanks for removing extra tags. Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 02:24, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NSUSS article has been deleted. It would be a lesson for them.

For NSU-ers: You are always free to create any article but do it in a proper way and don't use it for self-promotion. WP is not a self-promoting site. Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 02:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is it a university page or a club page ?

Whenever I visit this page, I wonder, is it a university page or a club page? I guess it became a duty for all the NSU club excom to create a separate section on their club and write anything with extravagant citationless (not even primary) claims. I would like to draw attention of the members from WikiProject Bangladesh and Bangladeshi Universities to have a look at this article. Waiting for your replu...! Cheers. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 16:41, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually this article needs cleanup. Those clubs should be explained under one section. There's no need to keep club flooding. Clubs are not as notable as University unless it meets notability criteria.--NAHID 10:49, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with both of you - this aricle needs a lot of clean-up. Arman ^(Talk) 03:23, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to clean up the section, but halfway through fixing the "cut-pasted" club-cruft, I gave up. Removal of all such club advertisement (some of it seems to be pasted from club websites) is the only solution I can think of now. --Ragib (talk) 04:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It looks much better now. I'll try to organize its other sections gradually. Cheers. -- Niaz ^{(Talk •}^Contribs) 14:51, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected page & the controversy section

Due to recent vandalism and edit war among several anon IPs and new users, I have semi-protected the article. It also needs massive cleanup, references, and wikification. --Ragib (talk) 19:52, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

n muid:

you have "semi protected" the page that's ok but it contains some severe false accusations made against the administration and specially the proctor. what about that ?

As an insider of nsu, i can give some idea why the proctor is the target of the vandals. He has dismissed several students on account of plagiarism, cheating, giving proxy in exam, indecent behavior and physical aggression. And the notice of dismissal/punishment were posted in every notice board with those students' name and id ! That's probably angered them. Now they are trying to give a spin to the story to extract some revenge on the authority.

On the matter of rape, i would like to remind you that this sort of things happened in several universities (DU,JU etc and in foreign unis) but those are not mentioned in their pages. Then why nsu page should have it ? by the way, it is the only truth written in the "controversy" section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmuid (talk • contribs) 10:49, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Nmuid.... I think the page should remain semi-protected, but the stupid controversial section should be deleted. Come'on guys, we are bangladeshis, we know each others' secrets... don't just act like we are deaf when it comes to NSU.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nsuuser (talk • contribs) 13:22, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the semi protection. As for the controversy section, the issue regarding the proctor, had it been just for some few students who have been dismissed, all major national dailies, including New Age would not have reported massive controversy regarding issues such as the proctor's collaboration with the rapists, unfair dismissal of students trying to protest, eve teasing by staff, the discovery of hidden cams in female washrooms etc. You want insider opinion? I am an insider... as well as all the people who are still trying to protest... look at the facebook groups and blogs to see other insider reactions. Now my point is, wikipedia is a free to edit, neutral encyclopedia... where you can only appeal with proper references such as the New Age article cited under the controversy section deleted by some unknown IP, and not emotional appeals such as rape happens everywhere, why not such section in other articles. Well, why not, if you can provide the proper references. And by the way, the issue in North South University is having a comparatively high nationwide attention taking into account the role of the authority in such severe situations, typically reflecting the violation of human rights in a third world country, no matter who you are. Its natural that North South University, being a private university, will want to hide such issues as much a possible, but they couldn't at-least achieve success with the national dailies. For freedom, justice and transparency, I believe controversy section, deleted by an unknown IP with all the references, should be reverted back.

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The incident of rape came in New age but all the other allegetions never came as they are utter lies. And about the facebook group, well, all sort of propaganda happens there. The fake profiles tell the "story" and some unsuspecting students/alumni believed that story. If anybody doubts or try to tell the truth, admins of that groups delete those posts. So a facebook group cannot be taken as a credible source.

If the objective of the "vandals" is to protest human rights violation and ensure justice, then they should do it in the real world not by spreading false information in Wikipedia.

Just imagine that, the page of Jahangir Nagar University has a section with the title "rape centurion manik"

or, page of Rajshahi University Italic textdetailing how students (shibir activist)killed a professor and recently killed other students (chatro league)

or what if Dhaka University page has sections about "sexual harrassment by teacher","capturing hall", "professors detained for creating unrest" during caretaker govt.",

Pages of these unversities should not include these unfortunate incidents. then why should nsu page must have a section on the "rape" incident?