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Buddhism

I'm going to assume that a Black man from Georgia was not raised as a Buddhist, which suggests there's a story there. Some information about his conversion to Buddhism would be useful, I think. john k (talk) 20:47, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Congressman Wilson incident

someone should post a section about this: [1] . i would, but i dont know how —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.192.237.185 (talk) 21:49, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Guam comment?

The video looks genuine to me, but it could be a good fake. Also, there haven't been many sources reporting this and they all seem to be from April the 1st. I'm going to remove this as a BLP violation/April Fool's joke until there more evidence from reliable sources. TheGoodLocust (talk) 19:25, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a joke. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20001567-503544.html. Mainstream media doesn't play April Fools jokes; do not remove the Guam comment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamrmoss (talkcontribs) 19:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That is a blog - not a news article. For something of this magnitude we need something more than blogs and video where the choice words are covered by his hand. TheGoodLocust (talk) 19:59, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
LOL, they're "covered by his hand" because he's gesturing that the island will tip over! Plus, you can see enough of his mouth when he says "capsize" that he is clearly speaking the words. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Schleuderman (talkcontribs) 21:04, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is a record of history. Not a place for TheGoodLocust to hide his shame. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.109.55.72 (talk) 21:06, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He couldn't think of the word "width" for awhile, and then worried about it tipping over. Clearly an April Fool's day joke. Ann arbor street (talk) 21:09, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]


An April Fool's Joke on March 25th, right? You left-wing lunatics are shameless. This man is borderline retarded and you're saying he's playing a joke on all of us. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.34.11.3 (talk) 21:33, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Look at my history - people have called me a extreme right wing. I'm just following wikipedia policy here. TheGoodLocust (talk) 21:53, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is definatly not an April Fools Joke. It happened 3/25/2010. There is a video, its on every news site possible. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/03/hank-johnson-guam-.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.245.246.6 (talk) 21:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If it happened on 3/25/10 then find a source that came out then - not a source that came out today and claims it happened on the 25th. I happen to think this is probably real, but try to be a little skeptical. TheGoodLocust (talk) 21:53, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you need a source go directly to the House Armed Services committee. http://armedservices.house.gov/hearing_information.shtml ---Go down to "Thursday, March 25, 2010 – 10:00am – 2118 Rayburn – Open" and click on "video webcast". Skip ahead to the 1hr and 32min mark for the full remark. The really funny stuff begins at 1hr and 36min. Much better then relying on the media and straight from the government.--Hunnydaisy (talk) 20:40, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a bunch, that clinches it for me. TheGoodLocust (talk) 02:40, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Good luck getting that posted on this liberal blog, otherwise known as Wikipedia.71.48.135.174 (talk) 03:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9R-cQ_A_6w I think we can add a "Controversies and/or Criticisms" segment and put this in there 98.192.71.198 (talk) 17:21, 5 April 2010 (UTC) !Here's another clip for the skeptics: http://washingtonscene.thehill.com/in-the-know/36-news/3169-rep-hank-johnson-guam-could-tip-over-and-capsize. I agree: this should go up. Voters need to be able to easily find out about their representatives' intellectual shortcomings. 98.192.71.198 (talk) 17:23, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, he's no Dan Quayle! I think that admiral deserves a medal for not responding that the Navy has a plan in place to redistribute the Marines so the island doesn't tip over. Reminds me of Mark Russell's comment about a viewer asking him if he's ever worried about running out of material: "Not as long as Congress is in session."


Credible sources

The event in question HAPPENED, according to mainstream media: CBS news: [2] Johnson says it was a wry joke, per CNN: [3] NOT an April Fool's joke, then.Cromulant (talk) 00:02, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Both of those sources are blogs. The best evidence for this is a brief statement on his own website (today), likely written by a staffer, which is either truthful, damage control without knowing the facts, or part of an April Fools joke initiated by the congressman. As I said before, I think this is probably true, but considering what day it is, and that all the sources have come out on this today, we shouldn't include it for at least a day. TheGoodLocust (talk) 00:46, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is a minor event at best. If we are going to include something, it should be a single sentence and it should not be in a separate section. I'm going to trim it down. Such an extensive statement for such a minor event violates WP:WEIGHT. ATren (talk) 01:29, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. The Guam comment is what he's (now) famous for. It's why Hank Johnson was the 11th "hottest" google search yesterday. Until the Guam comment, he was a relative unknown.Cromulant (talk) 22:53, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I tend to agree with Cromulant - this is an important, from a cultural perspective, part of his biography and I'm sure it'll soon appear on the Daily Show (well, not terribly sure, but it should). TheGoodLocust (talk) 02:42, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How about you come back to editing Wiki pages after you've grown a pair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.109.55.72 (talk) 18:50, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]


The statement is obviously real, since Johnson's website confirms it. He is claiming it was a joke, though it doesn't look as though he was joking. Comments on YouTube suggest he was either drunk or high, though that is (obviously) only opinion. Removing it when it is confirmed by Johnson't own website seems obviously absurd. As to whether it is a minor issue, if Johnson thought that was in any way a credible threat then he is obviously a moron. That is surely a significant issue. Qlangley (talk) 09:22, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the video he is either drunk, high, very sick or a moron, I have no idea which it is but in either case it's a serious issue. Anyone who thinks it's a joke needs to check out the video, the man is dead serious. Sergiacid (talk) 11:32, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Minor event? There is an entire paragraph on the Dan Quayle wikipedia page about his misspelling of "potato". So why is a congressman's complete lack of geologic knowledge any more minor than a spelling mistake? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.215.96.61 (talk) 13:56, 2 April 2010 (UTC) I agree, there needs to at least be a mention of this somewhere. If it's worth mentioning famous goofs of other politicians, it should be allowed to comment on this one. Rekutyn (talk) 22:07, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We judge significance by its level of media coverage, and so far this has received little coverage. It does not merit a separate section. ATren (talk) 22:43, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CBS says "Johnson caused a commotion" here: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20001686-503544.html Go Google "Hank Johnson" and watch what comes up. This is going up now - obviously there are some cranks trying to prevent the Democratic Party from looking stupid. I don't care if we need to get into an edit war to get admins to look at this.98.192.71.198 (talk) 17:43, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Are there specific details that you think should be in there that are currently omitted?--Cube lurker (talk) 17:50, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
His office has released a statement addressing the remark. I'm sure someone can find it (it's on his House of Reps home page). Note that the level of controversy is unchanged, as all politicians/pundits/etc release statements after making a controversial claim. Anyone want to pull it up? 98.192.71.198 (talk) 18:23, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
His statement is mentioned. Unsure what's missing?--Cube lurker (talk) 18:26, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If health problems of an elected official affect his speech and mental clarity, it is an important part of the information that would be expected in a biography in an encyclopedia, and might deserve a separate section. The Atlanta Journal and Constitution in December 2009 reported that because of Johnson's hepatitis C and its treatments, "His speech is slower than ever, and he regularly gets lost in thought in the middle of a discussion." That should at least be added to the mention early in the article that he has hepatitis. Newsweek in its newsblog, along with many other media sites, discussed the bizarre performance of Johnson at the hearing. Edison (talk) 20:27, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]