User talk:GiacomoReturned

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The Wikipedia philosophy can be summed up thusly: "Experts are scum." For some reason people who spend 40 years learning everything they can about, say, the Peloponnesian War -- and indeed, advancing the body of human knowledge -- get all pissy when their contributions are edited away by Randy in Boise who heard somewhere that sword-wielding skeletons were involved. And they get downright irate when asked politely to engage in discourse with Randy until the sword-skeleton theory can be incorporated into the article without passing judgment.

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—Lore Sjöberg, from "The Wikipedia FAQK"

This, the funniest thing I have seen on wikipedia, was stolen from DreamGuy

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This editor will not be accepting the edit reviewer rights or having anything to do with "pending changes" - all that is changing are the rules and uses concerning them. Ultimately, it is going to lead to and immense amount of trouble and/or kill "The Encyclopedia any one can edit? [1] and more recently [2]

And in 5 years of Wikipediaring - this has been my favourite edit [3]. The trouble is, I feel I may have spoilt the fun of someone similar to myself.

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Your recent complaint about misuse of rollback on ANI

May I ask what your goal in posting the complaint about Fastily on ANI, rather than initiating dispute resolution against him, was? Stifle (talk) 08:21, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

yes, you may ask. Giacomo 09:58, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What was your goal in posting the complaint about Fastily on ANI, rather than initiating dispute resolution against him? Stifle (talk) 11:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Because Stifle when it was decided that I loose rollbck rights for reverting accepted erronious iformation and reverting Smee's (or whatever he currently calls himself) agrevations the desired site for the drama fest to discuss it was ANI [4]. I did not notice you complaining then of the wrong location; so I assumed that was the corect meeting place for those interested in such matters. In any case, regearding Fastily, it was the correct location as it directly pertained to the hounding of Richard Norton. That it is now decide that an Admin continuously illicitly rollbacking in order to hound and distress is quite in order, I expect my rollback rights will be restored very soon for the lesser offence. Or is reverting Smee and removing false facts a greater offence in your view than a pack of thugs hounding and bullying? As it happens I would not have the rollback back if Jimbo crawled to me with them on a silver plate; as I have always said: the only way to sort things here is to accept nothing and give a great deal, then disreputable admins have and their disciples have no power over one. However, many thamks for reminding me that people were keen to see fastily absolved, I had better go and attend to that. I'm sure with your compete volte-face ([5] & [6]) in the Norton case, you will agree with me that needs attending to. Giacomo 18:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Would you say that the ANI post led to more drama than dispute resolution would have? And do you want rollback back, you can have it if you want. Stifle (talk) 18:27, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No thank you Stifle, I think these tools are more important to you and your friends than they are to me. Giacomo 18:34, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) I don't think he will. But asking was a nice gesture on your part Stifle. You can make it an even better gesture by granting him rollback without having to ask thus resetting the previous drama to point zero. Dr.K. ^{λogosπraxis} 18:38, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK. I await with eagerness your reasoning for why you chose ANI over the less dramatic dispute resolution. Stifle (talk) 18:44, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My beloved nephew does not require any ghastly little tools. Tools are things for those who want to play with them. Besides which, so ridiculous is the rollback tool that I have been happily rollbacking on my nephew's behalf for the last month or so, which rather proves how stupid the whole process and dubious the honour is - doesn't it? Now Mr Stifle, I suggest you send one of the ANI henchmen round to wrestle them off me too, as I shall be delegating my rollback to my third under footman. Lady Catherine de Burgh (the Late) (talk) 18:46, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Third under footman? The organisation of your court your highness rivals even those in Byzantium. I am at awe. Farewell. (Bowing, and exiting walking backwards) Dr.K. ^{λogosπraxis} 18:50, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"As it happens I would not have the rollback back if Jimbo crawled to me with them on a silver plate; as I have always said: the only way to sort things here is to accept nothing and give a great deal, then disreputable admins have and their disciples have no power over one." I really couldn't agree more. The same goes for this new half-assed reviewer status; who gives a shit for the administrators' pretty baubles? Can you believe that I once had a barnstar taken away by an idiot administrator who fell out with me, and I was told by another that I would no longer be allowed to review at GAN? There's something seriously wrong in the state of Denmark, but most people are looking in the wrong direction. Sack all of the administrators; let's see how many could get through another RfA. I'd guess about 10% or so, the rest are just dross. Malleus Fatuorum 19:54, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Count me into that 90%. Good times. Pedro : Chat 20:54, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's interesting, I think, to see how few of the current administrators believe that they'd get through another RfA, and equally interesting to see their excuses for that. Whatever their excuses though, they're almost certainly right; they wouldn't. Malleus Fatuorum 21:12, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting indeed Malleus, but is any action being taken against Fastily? I have just spent 30 minutes looking and can fnd nothing. I don't initiate formal processes myself ever, because while I'm a good sprinter and stayer and boxer, as a jumper, I'm abysmal. Giacomo 21:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Giacomo: We're waiting for Fastily to log onto Wikipedia (or, if he already has, to post a response to your complaint). I'd rather we waited a few days than rush into a decision. Some breathing room usually helps to prevent stupid decisions, anyhow. AGK 21:23, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Compete bollox! You have the difs! In RL, does one wait for a known crininal to strike again? Or are fingerprints and DNA enough? If I do soemthing wrong, Admins and their friend get on to ANI right away have an orgasmic hug. Go deal with it - sort! Giacomo 21:27, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't initiate formal processes either, largely because I have no faith in their honesty. Malleus Fatuorum 21:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Giacomo, I believe there is something being prepared. Whether it'll be effective is another thing altogether. Aiken ♫ 21:34, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I don't doubt there is something being prepared, probably the next victim when they have popped me out of the way. Rollacking as a form of bullying is quite unacceptable and I shall keep saying so until the very moment I am banned. Therefore, I await the announcement of their "preperations" with the same glee that a turkey anticipates Thanksgiving. I was just looking at the AN thread (the one trying to ban me), it bears near identical similarities to their orchestrated deletion pages of Richard Arthur Norton. MickMcNee racing up and down the thread, like a greyhound, hectoring anyone who disagrees with him. The only difference is that Treasury Tag is forcibly recused from one page and not the other. Strange times. If these people are allowed to take over the project, God help you all. Giacomo 09:37, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I hope so because I am not the sort of person who waits very long. I was just wondering who the "we" who are "waiting for Fastily to log onto Wikipedia" are. Either AGK has joined the exaulted ranks of my esteemed, rocking and rollbacking aunt (entiltled to the "we"), or their are more than one waiting, in which case it would be nice to know who. Giacomo 21:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

User:Giano subpages

When I first encountered them, I declined to delete your Giano subpages because I didn't realise that your username had been changed. If you have any more subpages that you want to be deleted, would you please include in the deletion rationale a note that the username has been changed? Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 00:55, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes sorry, I just realise that the names did not marry. Thanks for that anyway, I think that was the lot. Even I never write more than 6 pages at once. Giacomo 00:57, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy Notification

A proposal has been raised to formally recognise your special status on Wikipedia as editors champion. If you dont feel able to accept this, please delete the discussion or advise so it can be archived. FeydHuxtable (talk) 18:15, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure its a very good idea Fred, but so much is written about me already, what's a few more words? We could certainly all do with a laugh and something joyous and amusing - so go with it if you want to, we might even see some of the sparkling wit, sadly devoid of late, that used to make editing Wikipedia so much fun. I just hope anybody being amusing does not get harrangued, blocked or both. Giacomo 18:24, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The proposal reminds me of some horror movie theme I can't quite place where the townspeople release some fearsome monster/virus to combat something terrible, and well, you can guess what happens. This comment should not be construed to suggest that Giano is a monster/virus in any way.--Milowent (talk) 19:36, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Myself, I've always thought of Giano as the spider the old lady swallowed to catch the fly...--Wetman (talk) 23:13, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

From Giano's perspective, it's probably closer to the point in Gladiator where the emperor can't kill him but can't let him live. "The slave who defied a God-King," no? Recognizance (talk) 23:43, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well it looks like we are in for a long drama seaon as McNee and Treasure ar planning an arbcase next. Looking at the threads with them on earnestly commenting on me ad-nauseum, I am reminded of Batman and Robin minus the glamour of the batmobile; it's going to be one very long dull summer; I hope you are all prepeared for it. I must find a long, big page to bury myself in and shut them out. Giacomo 09:52, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anything Treasury Tag does is independent of me, and vice versa. The Conspiracy is all in your head. Still, are you cast as The Joker in this scenario? Too funny. MickMacNee (talk) 13:40, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And where did he say there was a conspiracy? You and TT are the prime mveoers on this; maybe independently, maybe not. Who know? Minkythecat (talk) 14:03, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

McNee and Treasure ar planning an arbcase. He is not planning anything with me, and vice versa. Still, who knows eh?. MickMacNee (talk) 14:40, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A Midsummer Night's Dream

Rather apt for this time of year, Dr.K.'s addition reminded me instantly of this little exchange amongst the mechanicals:

BOTTOM: Thisby, the flowers of odious savours sweet,--
QUINCE: Odious? odorous!
BOTTOM: --odours savours sweet

(Quiller-Couch reading)

I suggest that you should always use "odorous" in place of "odious" – it would have the advantage that we'd all understand it, and it would keep the civility police off your back. Even if it's a bad idea, this touch of Shakespeare ought to give this place some parity with Malleus's talkpage as a venue for the culturally inclined. --RexxS (talk) 15:57, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]