Talk:World Series

1904

This article, as with the list of World Series champions, leaves the reader with the impression that there was going to be a 1904 Series and that the Giants boycotted it. That's not quite true. The Series of 1903 was arranged between the ball clubs. The 1904 Giants announced weeks ahead that they did not intend to play a post-season Series against the AL champion (which, at the time of the announcement, looked like it could be the Yankees). No Series was scheduled for 1904, so reporting that the Giants caused the "cancellation" of the Series (as the list had it, and which I removed), is incorrect. Calling it a "boycott" is closer to the truth, but still there was no Series scheduled, so it's questionable. The Giants themselves were instrumental in establishing the Series as a required championship, operated by the National Commission rather than by the individual clubs. From that day forth, the major league office has run the post-season, rather than the clubs. Give the Giants credit for having the vision to force a better system than what had existed during the 1880s, and in 1903-04. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 05:11, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Local rivalries

I propose the following changes to the "Local rivalries" section:

• In the initial paragraph, remove the parenthetical remark to improve conciseness and avoid redundancy; it is implied by the fact that teams did not face each other during the regular season prior to interleague play.
• In the initial paragraph, reword "officially-recorded competition" with "official competition"; the "-recorded" suffix does not alter the meaning in a significant manner.
• Change heading "Cross-town and trans-Bay Series" to just "Cross-town Series", which is sufficiently descriptive to include the case of San Francisco playing Oakland.
• Change heading "Other cross-state and trans-Canada rivalries" to just "Other cross-state rivalries", and delete the paragraph on Toronto and Montreal, as they are not a local rivalry, and did not meet in the World Series. Keeping it within the "Local rivalries" section invites other non-local rivalries to be included.

Isaac Lin (talk) 04:05, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

I am proceeding with these changes. Isaac Lin (talk) 00:56, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

"first" World Series

Can the stats for the 1884-1890 series be placed into this article ? (such as a second table, or an appendix section)

76.66.195.196 (talk) 07:48, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

It's best to keep the pre-1903 stuff separate, as we do now, and as modern sources typically do. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 07:54, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

"About" note

I do not believe it is necessary for the "About" statement to explain that MLB is a North American organization, as there is no risk of confusion with an annual championship series for another group called Major League Baseball. I propose removing this portion of the sentence. Isaac Lin (talk) 05:49, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

World Series is a very vague term; someone who knows little of baseball might, for example, be looking for the World Baseball Classic. And Japan, among other countries, has major leagues, so the meaning of "Major League Baseball" isn't instantly or universally apparent or intuitive. If we said something (as once I think we did) roughly like This article is about the annual contest between the American and National Leagues of baseball, then that wouldn't need further clarification for those who don't already know the subject. ¶ Back in 1903, anyway, Major League Baseball wasn't a capitalized term (and the New York Giants, who disdained in 1904 to play the representatives of "an inferior league", wouldn't then have granted Major League status to that inferior circuit.) Except incidentally, this hatnote isn't to tell those looking for the World Series that they've arrived at the right place; it's to tell those who are seeking something else that they haven't. —— Shakescene (talk) 06:56, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

After writing all that, I realized that the article also deals, although briefly, with the championships before the American League's formation in 1900-1, so referring to the AL and NL in the Hatnote might be misleading or confusing. Insofar as that's true, I'd prefer the present wording. —— Shakescene (talk) 08:45, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Looking at the other uses of the term "World Series", I don't believe there is any ambiguity in the use of the term "Major League Baseball" to differentiate this article from others. However, I am open to hearing the opinions of others. Isaac Lin (talk) 18:07, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Origianally named "New World Series"

Some Historians say that the original and official name of the so called "World Series," was actually called "The New World Series of baseball." It makes sense to me, since the MLB takes place in the "new world" and not the "whole world." What are your guys thoughts on this.

Origianally named "New World Series"

Some Historians say that the original and official name of the so called "World Series," was actually called "The New World Series of baseball." It makes sense to me, since the MLB takes place in the "new world" and not the "whole world." What are your guys thoughts on this.