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I would question one statement in this article. You make it sound, when discussing John and Charles'differences, that John wanted to split from the Church of England. From my study John did NOT want to start a new denomination but revive the existing church.146.95.18.236 03:59, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Hymns" vs. "Lyrics"

The word "lyrics" fits with the word "songs." This implies music someone writes, to which they set words.

The word "hymns" fits with "hymn tunes." This describes what Charles Wesley did. He wrote "words" = "texts" = "hymns." He did not write the music for all the 8,000 plus/minus texts=hymns he wrote. Your researches in the back of hymnbooks will discover meter indexes, from which you may find tunes to fit Wesley's hymns = texts. You can then sing Wesley's hymns (=texts)to the different tunes available in the same meter. Your examination of ANY hymnbook page which shows a text (=hymn) of Charles Wesley, and you will find the music (=hymn tune) has its own credits (someone who is NOT Charles Wesley). Charles wrote words, not the music to set the words and make them available for singing.

Probably the best was to describe Wesley's works on your Wiki page is to offer a brief explanation of what a "hymn" = "text" is, and then list the first lines (without using the word "lyrics"). If "lyrics" need to be mentioned,include it in the brief explanation of what a "hymn" is not. 24.7.251.127 (talk) 19:38, 7 November 2010 (UTC)hymnlover 11-7-10[reply]

Father, I Stretch My Hands to Thee

I added this because it's an extremely important hymn to African Americans. University of Southern California Gospel Music Timeline

The Music of Black Americans: A History by Eileen Southern (p. 455), Lining out the Word: Dr. Watts Hymn Singing in the Music of Black Americans by William T. Dargan (p. 103), and Come Sunday: The Liturgy of Zion by William B. McClain (p. 127-128) all call it is one of the quintessential lined-out African American out hymns. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atlantictire (talk • contribs) 00:06, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]