Talk:Jorge Rafael Videla

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A news item involving Jorge Rafael Videla was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 23 December 2010.

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Was Mr. Videla born on 02 Aug or 21 Aug? If it is on the 21 Aug, then why is cataloged as being an individual dated 02 Aug?

Is is possible to remove the "president" box? He was not a President, he was a Dictator. And a really nasty one.

You apparently don't understand how Wikipedia works. You should probably instruct yourself before making comments like this. Nobody is interested on your personal feelings about the subject. If you have any hard evidence that shows he was not a president then present that evidence and make the edit. Otherwise, keep your personal feelings to yourself. Also, you should sign your comments.Tiempodepaz (talk) 17:10, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to move the essay to a separate page on the Dirty War?Vancouverguy 00:11, 18 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I think that's a good idea.Pascal 06:21, 18 Sep 2003 (UTC)

It would be nice to include some more information on Videla's initial 1985 sentencing, subsequent pardon, and 1998 prison sentence and house arrest. Some of this is included in the Dirty war article and the spanish-version article.

This page needs a lot of

Sources

I'm going to place a request of sources and reference on this article. Most of it seems fine, but I've never heard of 500,000 exiled Argentinians. 30,000 as estimate of desaparecidos is sort of common knowledge in Argentina, but should be sourced properly for the benefit of the general reader. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 10:47, 19 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What I Found

"An official investigation concluded that 9,000 people were killed or disappeared during the period of the military governments, although human rights organisations say the figure could be as high as 30,000." BBC news.

"... mantener las banderas de justicia social y liberación nacional que levantaban los 30 mil desaparecidos y la mayoría del pueblo..." ExDesaparecidos.org.ar

This link calculates around 3,000 lived in France either legally (900) or in clandestinity after the 1976 golpe.

Argentinos en el Exterior

I think those 500,000 emigrants might be too much. The exodus actually started after the 1966 military government, but I haven't been able to find much. And it seams that the 21st century exodus was far bigger than that of the Dirty War. Mariano(t/c) 12:13, 19 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Cruyff

Anon comment on Cruyff's decition not to participate of the WC 1978:

[nonsense, he already decided in 1974 that he wouldn't play in another World Cup, because his wife Danny didn't want him to be away from home for another 6 weeks or so. Johan Cruijff didn't have any political motives to not go to Argentina, his motives were personal and had nothing to do with the Argentinean regime.] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.187.5.222 (talk • contribs)

Mariano(t/c) 10:10, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

___________________________________________________________________________________ Do we really need the piece of trivia at the end? It trivializes the issues at stake, in my opinion. My Lord, and the score is even included.Landrumkelly 12:08, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed it. Cruyff is on record as saying that the reason he did not attend was concern for his welfare following a kidnap attempt. – iride scent 17:05, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"'de facto' president of Argentina"'???

That part of the article is apparently untouchable. At least I don't see how to edit it. Surely to say that we was the "self-proclaimed" president would be a more defensible way to open this article, since "president" (in lieu of "dictator") gives a sense of legitimacy to his rule. HE WAS A DICTATOR. Landrumkelly 12:17, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If he was not a President, was Prince, Pope, Grand Duke, King....Shiekh or was he perhaps an Emporor? In other words, was he a Monarch? I'm guessing he would happen to be a President. (82.134.28.194 (talk) 13:48, 10 May 2010 (UTC))[reply]

It confuses me how Videla could be the Head of State of Argentina, and not be a President. Dictatorship is not an antonym to a Republic. The Kingdom of Argentina has never happened. It is more confusing how the Spanish discussion page contains an entire page dedicated to a such question. (Stat-ist-ikk (talk) 08:36, 11 May 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Female?

What does this article refer with "suspected to be a female"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.232.253.81 (talk) 01:59, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pink Panther

I recently heard that Argentinians used to call him the "Pink Panther" because he seemed to move and behave a lot loke the cartoon character - can anyone verify that claim? -- 134.102.101.64 (talk) 22:07, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Never heard of it, and I'm 31 years old (lived all my life in Argentina) [A] 23:32, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

A video about this argentine

These videos are about Videla:

[[1]] talks about his prision.

[[2]] >Missing persons.

[[3]] > Videla in power.

[[4]] >Video against terrorism in Argentina. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agre22 (talk • contribs) 16:30, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Book The Crisis of Argentine Capitalism

The book " The Crisis of Argentine Capitalism" by Paul H. Lewis, has on page 448,this text:"General Jorge Videla, head of the military government that supplanted Isabel Perón, was Argentina's twenty-first president since 1930.His task was to restore order to a political economy in which violence and chaos had become endemic.Terrorism had reached the point where political assassinations were happening on the average of one every eighteen hours.At the same time, the economic picture could not have been more dismal.The annual rate of inflation had reached 920 percent, gross domestic production was down by 4.4 percent in the first quarter of 1976, and fixed gross investment was down by 16.7 percent.The budget deficit was enormous(equaling 13.5 percent of the GDP), and a balance of payments deficit of around $600 million exceeded the treasury's exchange reserves, making a default quite possible." Agre22 (talk) 19:29, 5 March 2009 (UTC)agre22[reply]

Article neutrality

I am disputing the neutrality of this article. I have already requested that the article be removed until the problems are fixed. This is an article about a living person and as such the author should have been extra careful in ensuring that the facts had citations and that citations could be verified. Of the few citations included, several refer back to a website that is clearly biased against General Videla and the military government of the 70s. I’d love to help improve this article with some time.Tiempodepaz (talk) 01:42, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The book Guerrillas and generals describes this Argentine as a honest, but misguided ruler. He never robbed money and he wipped out terrorist groups such as Montoneros and ERP. At same time, he became linked to criminals such as then Admiral Emilio Massera and made a bad economy work. To have neutrality about Jorge Rafael Videla is very difficult task. Beyond doubt he was far worse than Pinochet, in anything, except human rights, where both were equal.Agre22 (talk) 02:31, 15 November 2009 (UTC)agre22[reply]