Talk:Mauser

TIDYING UP THE ARTICLE

Please allow my edits which make the artcle more consistent and readable, EG why to have a 19th to 20th century paragraph when we can write the history under models???

Also the reference to the Krag was giving the WRONG impression that it was a black powder rifle!!!! The mauser was clearly better than the springfield only! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.23.5.243 (talk) 12:33, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Surely this is wrong? "What was to become a Mauser factory started on July 31, 1811, when Friedrich I of Württemberg established a royal weapons factory in Oberndorf, a small town in the Prussian Black Forest. The factory opened for business the next year, employing 133 workers." The Black Forest is in Wurtemberg, which is why the King of Wurtemberg chose it for his factory. I have removed the Prussian reference.

Its an widespread misunderstanding that the ammunition for mauser rifle is called 7,92x57J. In fact the correct name is 7,92x57I. The “I” is an abrivation for “infantry” or “infantry-spitz” (IS) as the later version of the round was called. The reason for this misunderstanding is probably the marking that the Germans used on their cartridges, which looks like a “J” but actually is a capital I.

If nobody opposes that, I will change the “J” to “I”.

Its an widespread misunderstanding that the ammunition for mauser rifle is called 7,92x57J. In fact the correct name is 7,92x57I. The “I” is an abrivation for “infantry” or “infantry-spitz” (IS) as the later version of the round was called. The reason for this misunderstanding is probably the marking that the Germans used on their cartridges, which looks like a “J” but actually is a capital I.

If nobody opposes that I will change the “J” to “I”.

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Hi - I've got a collection of Mausers, including more than a few models you don't have anything on here yet. Any objections if I take some photos similar to what you have on the page, and write somethign up in a consistant style with what you have? Do you want to get into subvarients - like the 4 types of Swedish Mauser, for instance?

The more the merrier! At least thats my opinion --Rain 04:18, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

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While you are correct, the standards bodies CIP and SAAMI both use J now. It is an accident of history we have to live with. To be pedantic, pre-WWII references should use "I" and post-WWII references should use "J". I describe why in the 8x57 entry.

I'm going to fix the glaring Commission 88 Mauser (ugh) error. There was an 1888 Mauser, but it was not the rifle the Commission invented. The Model 1888 was influenced by Mauser, Mannlicher, and other designs, but it most certainly was never a Mauser. --HangFire 04:31, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

are you sure karbine kurtz is correct?

i thought the the karbine kurtz was the extremely short version of the rifle not the standard version... can sombody check this Gimpy117 01:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Wehrrmansgewehr?

german is my native language and this word sounds really strange... how about Wehrmannsgewehr (which would also be a strange name)?

Image sizes changed

Changed the image resolutions to 300 pixels, if you have at least 1024 x 768 you should be fine. --Chinese3126 23:15, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

This topic needs serious corrections.

"...and the similar Model 95 was sold to Mexico, Chile, Uruguay, China, Iran and the South African states of Transvaal and The Orange Free State (Boers)."

The 1895 model Mauser was never purchased or used by any South African or Boer group. They used the 1893 model. Even the Ludwig Loewe Model 1896 as marked on the side rail were model 1893 design rifles.

In the Swedish section- again- errors. Swedish Mauser production did not start until 1898. They could hardly have been using it since 1896. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DutchSwedishMauser (talk • contribs) 22:18, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Sweden took delivery of contract-produced M/96 rifles and M94 carbines manufactured by Mauserwerke well before 1898.

Argentine models

Hi, I was wondering if it'd be OK if I add to the article (when I found them) pics of the two argentine Mauser models mentioned in the article. Regards, DPdH (talk) 09:45, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Urfabrik

"The factory was built in an Augustine cloister and was chosen because it was very stoutly built and was ideal for arms production."

— Why were stout walls ideal for arms production? Is this an allusion to powder explosions? Wouldn't that be relevant to an ammunition factory?

Sca (talk) 14:58, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Model vs. Modell

Should spelling of "Model" (or "Modell") be consistent in sections 1.1.12 Type A, Model B, Model K, Armee-Model C, Africa-Model and 1.1.13 Modell M and Modell S? If so, which? — Robert Greer (talk) 20:31, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Historical Point

"Where the devil did this '7.92' term slip into use?" The GRC original specification for the bore was and remains '7.9'(indicating '7.90'). When the rifling/bullet diameter was increased, that was changed from '8.1' to '8.2'(as in '8.20', not the '8.22' mislabel used by some), but the bore diameter remained unchanged./Much 20th century referencing, including war years [WWII] British (with their consistent use of bore measure for identifying arms and munitions) writings noting '7.9'. This same notation applies equally to the 8X33 Kurz as the extension of the German defacto standard '8.20' bullet diameter is in use with this cartridge. Robert D. Lawry, thank you very much64.40.60.129 (talk) 03:58, 29 September 2010 (UTC)