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Contemporary Christian music?

The album includes a lot Christian elements and lyrics, so shouldn't "Contemporary Christian music" be added to the genre? --79.199.57.134 (talk) 18:47, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No way...The album has religious allusions (very distinctive from elements), but is not pro-christain in any way. Gaga is not a gospel or contemporary christain singer, she's a secular pop artist. She sings about bloody Mary and falling in love with Judas, the man who betrayed jesus. Those lyrics are her way of pulling people's strings because she herself has said countless times that she does not condone or believe in any form of organized religion. Also, christain music does not allow explicit lyrics. She swears several times over the duration of the album, and she has FAR more lyrics that reference sex than she does referencing any religious deity. I think people keep getting the wrong idea from from the lyrics of the title track. She did that intentionally. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.127.91.124 (talk) 02:46, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You claiming her to be a secular artist is wrong. She went to a Catholic school her whole life. If she was secular she wouldn't declare "God makes no mistakes". And she doesn't really love Judas Iscariot she ascutally is in love with a man who betrayed her kind of like the way Judas betrayed Jesus. Gte your facts right man before you post anything recklessly. --Mishternagy (talk) 18:42, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Don't be ethnocentric, what i wrote was not wrong. I did do my research, and so should you. My consensus was drawn from 3 years worth of observing interviews and all media outlets. She's said so herself that she "sees god in her fans." Her version of god isn't the supernatural deity that Christians believe in. She's actually closer to being labeled agnostic, because she is spiritual but doesn't believe in a popularized god and isn't quite sure which one she does believe in. And as for the catholic claim...I went to a catholic school as well. Both her and I are no longer Catholics. Going to a faith based church does not make you a believer any more than being born into a religion makes you religious. And i did not respond to this innocent person's question to argue with people. You have your beliefs, Gaga has her own, and so does everyone else. The end. Look up the word ethnocentrism and do the math. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.189.158.72 (talk) 19:15, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Four million?

I don't know whether this is considered a proper source, but a press release on Lady Gaga's website is citing the official album sales as being 4 million to date. Link RM-47 (talk) 17:33, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gaga's official website is not a reliable source. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 17:36, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I thought that might be the case, though I can't see why personally. It is official, after all. RM-47 (talk) 19:26, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Because we need reliable third-party sources, not affiliated with Gaga or her team. In a sort of attempt at promoting an album, record labels, and in this case, her website, use inflated sales as a way to market the project. They hope that the more impressive the sales seem, the more people will think its popular and buy it. The album was confirmed to have sold/shipped two million in its first week. I would say overall sales dropped a good 70% everywhere during the second week (US went from 1.1 M to 174k, while in the UK from 215k to 60k), so I doubt sales doubled. I would guess them to be at 2-2.5 at best. Even if you find a reliable source claiming 4, I doubt we can add it, just due to the lack of certifications and actual recorded sales.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 20:19, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

gagadaily said it sold a total of three milions they said that on the text before the fourth single poll — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.43.223.241 (talk) 14:55, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Platinum

I don't understand it. The album sold more than 1 million copies in the US, but RIAA (is this the site) still didn't write this. I also thinks Edge is also platinum. Ofekalef (talk) 06:32, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Record companies have to apply for certifications, they are not automatically updated. Hence RIAA does not show it. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:52, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand why gold or platinum status is even listed for artists on wikipedia, if it has to be 'applied for' and doesn't automatically happen then it's bound to become a flawed way of guaging success (and let's face it record companies have better things to do than constantly applying for these stupid accreditations when billboard already announces actual the sales). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.186.228.10 (talk) 05:26, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

5 million

Here had a source.--NicolásTM (talk) 16:23, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not done - Not reliable.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 16:44, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So, why this is "reliable" to the discography? It's contradictory.--NicolásTM (talk) 18:37, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

HitFix is reliable because they credit NS for the sales, however, the sale info about the 5 million worldwide is unreliable because they are crediting it as from Gaga, which being a primary source is unreliable. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:37, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So the sales have gone in reverse? from 5 million back to 2 million? the 5 million sales has been talked about COUNTLESS TIMES over the last few weeks in the media!

Sales

"It debuted atop the US Billboard 200 chart with first-week sales of 1.11 million copies. Over 430,000 of these sales were at a special price of US$ 0.99, which Amazon offered for two days during the album's first week of release."

I think I read somewhere that the 430K sales came from digital stores, not necessarily Amazon only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.121.151.133 (talk) 21:26, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Add This

please add this info http://focustaiwan.tw/ShowNews/WebNews_Detail.aspx?Type=aALL&ID=201106290018 Ashishvats23 (talk, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

We Will Rock You?

So this was seen at the bottom of the tracklisting: ""Yoü and I" contains elements of "We Will Rock You" recorded by Queen and written by Brian May." Is there a source for this? The only resemblance I hear is the pattern, not the actual drums used in "We Will Rock You"; wouldn't that make the sentence incorrect, or am I mistaken? 75.26.254.185 (talk) 23:42, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The album notes credits WWRY sample. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:41, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute

The song "Born This Way" is about how everybody is equal, regardless of the color of their skin, their sexuality or their creed, and that every single person can fulfil their dream

Dispute... I really, really, really don't think that's what the song is about at all.

That is what the song is about, haven't you heard it? That is the whole point of Born This Way, both song and album, is about being who you want to be and not letting anyone tell you otherwise. Calvin • ⁹⁹⁹ 10:55, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Source itself is not credible.

not a neutral POV — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oygp (talk • contribs) 10:41, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bloody Mary's page??

Could we make a page for Bloody Mary, it topped the Taiwanese Top 10 Singles Chart this week... I think it's sufficient... --Emish94 (talk) 22:13, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from BiggestLittleMonster, 4 July 2011

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hi i'm a big fan of lady gaga and i'm hoping you respond so either you can edit or i can edit by putting "Hair" and "You And I" on the part where it says singles from the album :) BiggestLittleMonster (talk) 19:23, 4 July 2011 (UTC) thats all if you say yes thanx and if no thanx for reading this :)[reply]

Not done: It appears as if "Hair" is classified as a Promotional Single and "You and I" was not released as a single. Jnorton7558 (talk) 22:32, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Performance in Taichung, Taiwan

Should the setlist for her performance in Taiwan be listed here? I don't have the setlist, but if it's found... Squidoh (talk) 10:40, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have the setlist:

1. Born This Way 2. Just Dance 3. Telephone 4. Alejandro 5. Hair 6. Yoü and I 7. Bad Romance 8. The Edge of Glory 9. Judas — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.136.39.75 (talk) 02:03, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Scheiße

Scheiße needs to have its own article. It has been overly popular. It has been voted by many people to be the next single. She performed a snippet on Germany's next top model. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.99.184.26 (talk) 09:54, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Expand

I've just expanded the composition section, because, frankly, I thought that it wasn't right just to have a description about the singles and not about the album's other tracks. --Theologiae (talk) 13:21, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You did a wonderful job. Thanks a lot Theologiae. Once you are done, I'll format the references. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:32, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying to do a part on the bonus track singles as well. Should I do a sub-section, or keep it all as one part?

--Theologiae (talk) 13:35, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One section, four paras should do it. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:57, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done.--Theologiae (talk) 14:22, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]