Talk:Subramanian Swamy
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Economic Reforms in India
The 3 citations for this section are an article written by Dr. Swamy, a book written by him and his profile at an institution where he is the chairman which makes me wonder exactly how neutral (or true) the information is. Ashwan (talk) 20:27, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
Untitled
Talk page for Subramanian Swamy
Edied SSSCP section as the wordings appear too judgmental.
Did You Know?
...that this article was featured on the Did You Know? section of the Main Page on 22 September, 2005. The entry read "...that Dr.Subramanian Swamy worked towards normalizing relations between India & China and in 1981 he persuaded Deng Xiaoping to open the Kailash Mansarovar in Tibet to Hindu pilgrims from India? " --Gurubrahma 12:01, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Guoyeu or Hanyu
Hi, can someone knowledgeable throw light on what dialect of Chinese language, Dr. Subramanian Swamy was expert at? The page had Guoyeu before anon changed it to Hanyu. Asking just to confirm if it isn't a case of vandalism.....Gurubrahma 05:15, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Bad stuff
Why is this article in a terrible state regarding NPOV? There is a lot of denigrating language about Swamy's opponents, as well as undue glorification. There is also a need for Wikification, modernization. - User:Rama's Arrow.
- I don't know if this is bad stuff or badly written stuff. However, as a new user had added these exploits, I asked him to give the references as well as provide copyright info for the picture. I am yet to hear from him about the same. I've put a section-NPOV tag as the NPOV tag was placed above this section; I've removed the attention tag as it asks for a better tag to replace it, which the section-NPOV tag does so. --Gurubrahma 10:31, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
- I think you or anyone else is entitled to move against this "Exploits" section, since it is so explicitly problematic. Any explanations from the user will not change the fact that its problematic.
I applied the "ATTENTION" tag becoz: This whole article is about a man who leads a party that barely wins 1 seat in parliament each time. he has done no special work in his life. Most Indian PMs have smaller bios here! Somebody has to strip down the crap and produce a legitimate article. - User:Rama's Arrow.
Exploits Reference
Hi all,
The exploits reference can be found in the following page:
The exploits have been placed because they are a integral part of Subramaniam Swamy, that made him famous. This is the same reason due to which the theory of relativity has been placed in the Albert Einstein section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.56.193.118 (talk • contribs)
- Well, I think that quote sort of summarizes why this article needs to be rewritten. All the three points in the exploits section needs to be backe dup with sources. As I suppose you may understand, refering back to the JP website won't do. --Soman 14:35, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Revert multiple edits on 15 December 2005 --> Explanation
I have reverted multiple edits by User:Gmauruthi as they are verbatim copyvio from [1]. This also does away the need for having the POV-section tag and factual accuracy tag inserted by other editors as the section itself is removed because of the copyvio. In the process, I've also reverted POV rant by an anon IP. The reversion has removed a fair-use image which I would not reinstate (as I'm not sure if it qualifies under fair use) and a link to Janata Party website which I would re-insert shortly. Trust this solves all the issues. --Gurubrahma 06:05, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Citizenship Act
If nobody can give me a reliable reference for the Sonia Gandhi story, I'm editing it out. Hornplease 17:51, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- It's been a week. No response, so its being edited out. Hornplease 06:07, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Why is there no NPOV here??
I do not understand why this article doesn't have an NPOV tag? As far as I can see the only references are either written by or associated with Dr Swamy himself. This is cause for serious concern. I am going to put in an NPOV tag here in a few days - however, I thought i'll put in a notice in the talk page before I do that. --Rev.bayes 19:56, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
- Added a reference that balances things a bit. Removing tag. Strangely hard to find something actually NPOV about Swamy, but every single reference to him in the papers seems to be accompanied with some sort of snide adjective. Usually 'maverick'. Hornplease 20:28, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
- Honestly, I still think that this article is in poor shape. What do we do about it? I don't know.. but definitely using information from Dr Swamy's website is not going to help us.. Right now, I won't revert the NPOV tag.. you have any suggestions on what we can do? write to me on my talk page.. --Rev.bayes 15:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Harvard
Will the single-purpose accounts who persist in adding misleading text about Dr. Swamy's time at Harvard please source their additions? Hornplease 04:30, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Deng Xiaoping
How can a ordinary MP from India possibly meet the premier of China? I think such a meeting is fictional. Anwar (talk) 10:22, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Legal Actions Against Suramaniam Swamy & Chandra Swamy
Rajiv Gandhi Assasination Case's Jain Comission report says he is important person of the case, to be investgated. He should be having links with the assiasination of Rajiv Gandhi.
Watch the following video, which gives a new angle about him. Its true or false; its in the hands of CBI. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PY-yKwbH0c&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIXQf_lxoms&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhZYhtG_1SE&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2klM8KEzNU&feature=related —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhagatbabu (talk • contribs) 04:49, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Murder case
I have removed the following addition, per WP:BLP policy; the facts stated are not given in the source - there is no mention of Swamy in the link. Chzz ► 17:16, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
Murder Case
Subramanian Swamy is a strong supporter of Sankaracharya of the Kanchi Mutt , the prime accused in the infamous Sankararaman murder case.<ref>http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/jan/21kanchi.htm</ref>
Controversy
I have removed the content of the 'controversy' section, because I do not believe that the facts are verified by the sources provided, per WP:BLP. Content was as follows; Chzz ► 17:19, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
Defamation.
Subramanian Swamy has a record of making defamatory remarks against prominent leaders like Jayalalithaa , Sonia Gandhi , P.chidambram etc , he has been accused of writting articles with false information and has lost lakhs of money due to defamation suits [1]
Hindutva
Subramanian Swamy believes in Hindutva and hindu nationalism and has opposed parties considered to be in the Secular group , he has given make firery speeches against Christians and Muslims and his party allied with the BJP although his party not won a single Lok Sabha seat since 1998 recently.[2][3][4]
Rajiv Gandhi Assassination
In January 1991, Swamy played the key role in dismissing Karunanidhi's government on the grounds of the ltte infiltration in Tamil Nadu. During Karunanidhi's rule, Rajiv Gandhi made 13 visits to Tamil Nadu between 1989 and 1991 and came to no harm. When the state came under President's rule in January 1991, Swamy had become the de-facto chief minister. Every day he used to declare that he had wiped out the ltte's presence in the state. It was in the fifth month of Swamy's rule that Rajiv Gandhi was killed in Tamil Nadu .The Outlook Magazine criticized Mr Swamy on his book on Rajiv's Assassination , the magazine said -' it's the turn of a poorly structured mystery novel to masquerade as an investigative book that purports to unearth the hidden truths behind the murder of former prime minister Rajiv Gandhi. His title focuses purely on his agenda: to deflect and refract the questions posed to him after May 21, 1991, the day the human bomb felled Rajiv Gandhi'. 'This renders Swamy's every sentence suspect, and ensures that his book fails even as a murder mystery, providing no solutions'. [5]
THIS PERSON IS TRYING TO PROTECT SUBRAMANIAN SWAMY , THE REFERNCE IS CREDIBLE EVIDENCE , I OPPOSE THIS , WIKIPEDIA CANNOT BE CALLED NEUTRAL FOR SUCH ELEMENTS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bestinformer (talk • contribs) 13:55, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
- ^ http://www.thehindu.com/fline/fl1819/18190100.htm
- ^ http://communalism.blogspot.com/2010/04/bal-thackeray-and-subramanian-swamy-two.html
- ^ http://greathindu.com/2008/02/from-savarkar-to-modi-the-unofficial-history-of-modern-hindu-nationalists/
- ^ http://www.lokvani.com/lokvani/article.php?article_id=4323
- ^ http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?209511
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Blog links should not be considered valid references, because they just illustrate viewpoint. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wecacuee (talk • contribs) 20:29, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Possible copyright problem
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Removal of section "All Caste Becomes Priest Act. Tamil Nadu, 2006"
I have removed the above section, which contained the following content:
- The bill in the Assembly of Tamil Nadu in 2006 laid the foundation for bringing the social reform of enabling every Hindu,and Dalits without any discrimination by caste, to become archakas in Hindu Temples.[1] The Governments plan was to demolish caste barriers in the State by training non-Brahmins to become archaka (priests) and offering them jobs in temples that come under the purview of the State Government.[2] The Government order has been challenged by the Adi Saiva Sivacharyargal Nala Sangam, Thennindia Thirukkoil Archagargal Paripalana Sabhai and other such hereditary priests’ organisations in the Supreme Court and secured a stay against the order. The case is pending in the court.Subramanya Swamy is advocating against this All Caste Becomes Priest act and was instrumental in getting a stay from the Supreme Court to prevent the implementation of Tamil Nadu all caste becomes Priest Act.[3][4]
- ^ http://www.indianexpress.com/news/tn-passes-bill-on-appointment-of-priests/11128/
- ^ http://www.hindu-blog.com/2008/04/revolutionary-change-dalit-hindu-temple.html
- ^ http://ibnlive.in.com/news/let-caste-be-no-bar-for-priests-dmk/10647-1-2.html
- ^ http://www.dailypioneer.com/200712/SMALLSCREEN/SMALLSCREEN.html
Not a single one of the alleged references mentioned Subramanian Swamy, let alone support that he was "instrumental" in getting the stay from the Supreme Court. If this section is to be restored, it should contain third-party references which actually discuss his views, to prove that his views on the matter are notable and that he actually played a notable role in the events surrounding the act. Finally, there is no evidence that the bill was actually called "All Caste Becomes Priest Act"; I only see this term on Wikipedia, and I can't find any news coverage which actually names the bill rather than merely describing it. cab (call) 14:08, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
=The Hindu and Subramania Swamy
Can somebody throw light on the relationship between the newspaper The Hindu and Subramania Swamy. I ask this because the newspaper reports about every press conference he arranges, publishes every press statement he makes, publishes prominently articles written by him.
Andamannicobar (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:14, 20 August 2011 (UTC).
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