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If it appears to be a submission - ie, it contains "{{afc submission") and the page name begins with "Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/", and doesn't contain "template:", and

If the page has no references at all (ie no "<ref" case-insensitive), or "{{harv" or "{{sfn" and

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Jorg Janke

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– Were reviewed multiple times... mabdul 12:28, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ChzzBot IV

I have updated the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Jorg_Janke, please review and reply me

Thanks, Winningindians — Preceding unsigned comment added by Winningindians (talk • contribs) 02:05, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick E. McGovern

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– Article already accepted. mabdul 12:32, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear ChzzBot IV,

I received your message that I need inline references in the "Patrick E. McGovern" article. But the original submission included numerous inline refs., which now have been deleted. How do I get back to the original version?

Best, William Pepper — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drwilliampepper (talk • contribs) 14:45, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nail

Hi, this is Dodobird1982. You told me I need references but what if you learn something through a personal experience. In this case, I watched Dragon Ball Z, and that is how I know about the character Nail. Please respond as soon as you can! Thanks! Dodobird1982 (talk) 20:36, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dodobird1982,

this is not how Wikipedia works. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and thus your submission falls likely in the category which is not covered by Wikipedia. Please read WP:NOT and consider searching at Wikia for the Dragon Ball wiki. Regards, mabdul 12:38, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

Thank you very much chzzbot for the review of my article and your guidance to improve it.

Kunalkulpati (talk) 22:04, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

About <The Flavor of corn> article

Hello,

Here I wanna discuss some questions about article <The Flavor of corn>. Here it's link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/The_Flavor_of_Corn

So, in this article (which was denied by you as unverified)I added all improtant information, including supported by reliable sources. 3 times I was tried to make this article affirmed, but even after I added reliable and verifed sources, it's still was denied to be article. Is this homophoby or what?? And if my sources are not verifed, which you can call verifed sourses then??

Please respond me here, thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.70.15.114 (talk) 17:01, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The High Quality Transport Refrigeration Parts

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Just in case you ever restart this

User:ChzzBot IV/AFC unreferenced is wrong. You need to completely re-code this if you ever try to run it again. The use of <ref> tags is absolutely not required, and you should not be telling users that their AFC submissions don't include WP:Inline citations merely because they don't use ref tags. WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:54, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Reference Links have been updated in the Article. And Links are made with proper attention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravinder3790 (talk • contribs) 10:47, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Close

Would you be so kind as to take care of this? CTJF83 12:26, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I just haven't found the time to do that yet; I did take a look, but it's not a "5 minute job". I might, possibly, have time in about a week, so if I do, I'll check back. Apologies; I've just been very busy. Chzz ► 00:56, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Academic journal articles

Hi, I saw your "decline" for Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Games and Culture. Please have a look at WP:NJournals and WP:JWG. Journals like this that are included in highly selective databases like the Social Sciences Citation Index are normally considered notable (and I don't know of a single case where such a journal was deleted after an AfD). Hope this helps. Happy editing! --Guillaume2303 (talk) 12:25, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NJournals is an essay, and the other a project-specific guide. I've just reviewed about 340 submissions, so I can only go on policy (WP:V) and guidelines (WP:GNG). Sorry. But if you think differently, just move it to a live article. Best, Chzz ► 12:39, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I didn't intend this to sound like criticism, your work at AFC is really appreciated. I don't work at AFC myself because it deals with too many subjects I have no experience in. It's just that I have seen several journal submissions rejected recently at AFC that normally are accepted at the WikiProject Academic Journals (and I saw some accepted that I PRODded or took to AfD immediately after they had been approved; none of this by you, if my memory serves me well). And I didn't want to barge in just after your decline decision and do something contrary without contacting you first. What would be the best way to bring this to the attention of people working at AFC? (BTW: NJournals is indeed an essay, but in practice it's what is followed for journals). --Guillaume2303 (talk) 12:53, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No offence taken at all; I was just stating the facts, kinda thing. The place to raise it is probably WT:AFC but, personally, I think AFC's need to meet WP:GNG regardless of SNGs. What I mean is... I accept that if someone creates an article on e.g. a high school or geo place with inadequate references as a live article, then I cannot tag it as A7, and AfD would probably keep/fix it; however for AFC, if I accept it, I'm putting something that is sub-standard onto Wikipedia, which I don't want to do. Sometimes - if I can - I'd try to fix things; but as we had a massive backlog I didn't have time. When an AFC is 'rejected' the idea is, it can be fixed and resubmitted; nobody particularly cares who does that; plus, of course, any (auto-)confirmed user could just move it live themselves and tidy up the headings; that's absolutely fine too - and then it's subject to the same slings and arrows as any other live article. Chzz ► 12:58, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, Will do. I'll also post a note on WT:AFC, because passing articles that don't even meet WP:NJournals is more cumbersome than rejecting those that do (and more confusing to newbies: "why did you PROD my article, it was approved at AFC"...) Thanks. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 14:11, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation § Articles on academic journals

Chzz ► 15:24, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bodhidharma's Birthplace

Hi Chzz. Did you also take nitice of this line?

This article has already been submitted as Bodhidharma/Birthplace sources. The present submission was done without discussion with the author, after removing a substantial part of the article without discussion, and without taking notice of the reasons for creating this page, which can be found at Talk:Bodhidharma/Birthplace sources. Joshua Jonathan (talk) 08:21, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Friendly regards, Joshua Jonathan (talk) 12:31, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you are asking. I reviewed the submission, and explained why I didn't think I could accept it as a live article. Regardless of who created it, it was submitted for review by Madi Carlo da Silva (talk · contribs) [1] and so, that's who I informed of my review [2]. That's about all I can do, in reviewing an AFC (and I've just reviewed about 350 of them). If you think it should be made live, or edited, or go back to an old version, or anything else - feel free. Best, Chzz ► 12:44, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Madi submitted a draft which was in my userspace, without any deliberation with me. the intent of the draft was to collect various sources which are being mentioned as references in an ongoing discussion on Bodhidharma's birthplace at the Bodhidharma page. There's also deliberation going on of what's the best way to collect these sources. Madi did shortcut this by submitting the draft. As a matter of fact, the page had already been created as a mainpage, and deleted. Sorry, my irritations are toward Madi, not to you. Friendly regards, Joshua Jonathan (talk) 12:54, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, no problem. Move it back to your user-space, and restore whichever version you like then; that's what I'd do. Cheers, Chzz ► 13:20, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Prof.Rohan Jayasinghe

I think I accidentally got the official notification because I helped the main author (User:Arunfrenzys) with formatting and ref tags. Cloveapple (talk) 13:19, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Right, yes; because of this edit, you are the person who actually 'submitted' it, so you're the person who gets notified. For future reference, you could change the user in the template; ie, when you subst'd it got saved as

	
{{AFC submission|||ts=20111220090937|u=Cloveapple|ns=5}}

- you could've manually edited that, and changed the "u=" to the user you were helping. Because, that's who will get any notification.

In this case though, now, if you want just cut/paste the notification over from your talk to User talk:Arunfrenzys.

Hope that makes sense. I've done it often enough myself, and ended up informing myself that I just declined my own AFC. :-s Chzz ► 13:24, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry and thanks for explaining. I'm not sure I entirely follow it, but I understand enough to watch for the "u=" part in order to change it next time. I naively thought it took hitting the actual submit button to be registered as the person who submitted it. Cloveapple (talk) 13:37, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, sure.

Think of it this way... imagine if someone puts <nowiki>Something something something ~~~~<nowiki> on a page (accidentally 'signing' inside NOWIKI tags - then the page would literally display ~~~~. If you then edited the page, and removed the NOWIKI stuff, then it would add your signature, not the person who had previously 'signed'. Which can, of course, be confusing. Chzz ► 13:43, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Monty’s Hotel, Secunderabad

Hi, This is regarding an article about a historic hotel which is more than 120 years old. This has been declared as heritage structure by HUDA and INTACH. Recently it was in news over a court battle. This also an important landmark in Secunderabad. References from reputed sources and external links are provided. Regards Sarvagyana guru (talk) 14:51, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, no problem; if you think those references are sufficient (or can add better ones), please feel free to make the article live. Cheers, Chzz ► 15:26, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"clear older messages"

Hi Chzz. I restored my messages at User talk:LieneCL that you removed with the edit summary 'clear older messages'. In addition to the version of the article that is at AFC, there is a version currently in mainspace that is tagged as G11 by me. Removing the notification, unless you were going to also decline the g11, makes it unlikely that the user would post to defend the page. That may be moot as their old version is at AFC, I agree...but one could just as easily say the AFC version is moot because the article now exists in mainspace.

My COI note to them is valid in any case and should probably not have been removed except by them.

I could see 'clear older messages' being used to remove notes from several months or years ago. Using it for messages ~1 hour old seems odd. Regards, Syrthiss (talk) 15:46, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for any hassle.

At first, I was speaking directly to the user as CronLab (talk · contribs); I did not know of another account. They'd created and edited an AFC page, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/CronLab Ltd. Obviously, first thing I had to do was suggest changing user-name per WP:CORPNAME and, per WP:UCN (and they were not blocked), I suggested they just create a new account. The user said they'd got the name LieneCL (talk · contribs), and at then point I spoke to an admin who soft-blocked the corpname account. So, I wanted to help them forwards from there.

I advised them about the "Article for creation" and the problems regarding the referencing. Then when I looked at their "new" user talk page, I saw the old notices; unfortunately, that's when I made my error - I assumed those must be outdated notices; I failed to spot that the CSD'd article issue was still ungoing. Note, I was still speaking to the person throughout; I suggested that it might be easier for them if I cleared the old messages, and have them a link to the draft, so they could continue to work on that.

Now, looking at the live article, I'm not too sure it actually is G11; I know it appears like it is but, like the draft, it's the formatting that is misleading; the user did not understand the difference between external links and references, and had them reversed; that's why the live page (and the AFC did have) only references to the company website, whereas the external links are (somewhat) independent (somewhat) reliable sources.

I'm not sure quite what the best approach is at this time; if it were up to me, I'd suggest an IAR deletion of the live article, to allow them to fix the formatting on the AFC page - as being the clearest way forward for the new user.

Apologies for removing that message too soon though. Chzz ► 15:57, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not a prob. I had to do quite a bit of double checking as well myself between the two usernames and talk pages (and wondering why I couldn't see my g11 nom on the AFC page, and wondering why I would have g11'ed an AFC page in the first place). I expect that is probably the best way forward, and I guess I will do that - del the live page, rm the speedy warn on their talkpage, leave the coi concern, and let you continue to provide your usual excellent help to them at AFC. Thanks! Syrthiss (talk) 16:09, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. I am sorry; if I'd spotted that the CSD warn was so fresh, I wouldn't have removed it like that; I was trying to do too many things at once. Thanks for being so understanding about it. Clearly it is a COI thing, but the user appears to be trying to work within guidelines, yep. Chzz ► 16:11, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rejection of my article

What credible sources u need to clear my article about Tablighi Ijtema? I cited famous indian news networks, is that not enough credibility even Press Trust of India issue news regarding it, Google it u will find tons of pages on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dooms183 (talk • contribs) 16:09, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lightning Rods/How do I increase notability for this article?

You left me this message: "This suggestion doesn't sufficiently explain the importance or significance of the subject. See the speedy deletion criteria (A7) and/or guidelines on notability. Please provide more information on why the subject is worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. Thank you."

I'm not sure what I need to do. In (A7) it mentions "This criterion applies only to articles about web content and to articles about people, organizations, and individual animals themselves, not to articles about their books, albums, software, or other creative works." My article is about a book.

This article is just as notable as her other book "The Last Samurai". Sorry. I read your advice but am not sure how to improve the article. Could you give me an example?