User talk:GoodDay

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Hello to all fellow Wikipedians. Be assured I'll be as courteous as possible & hope to provide worthy answers to your questions (about wiki edits), I'm looking forward to meeting you. GoodDay 22:40, 17 November 2005 (UTC).

You may be wondering why my archives only start at August 2007. The reason: I didn't archive my pages before that date, I merely deleted them (as I didn't know how to archive). Therefore, if anyone wishes to see material before August 2007? check out this talk-page's 'history'.

I've a secondary userpage called User:GoodDay/My stuff, which is where 'my stuff' has been transfered from my Userpage.

My Mentors

Danbarnesdavies & Steven Zhang. These gentlemen, will help me tweak my behaviour/conduct on Wikipedia; particularly in the areas of British & Irish politics.

The UK, Britain, Scotland, Ireland, Wales and England

Forgive me if this is out of place. But after going through some of your talk pages it seems you have issues with how the above mentioned places are defined. As a Briton, let me try and explain it for you using facts, not opinion. I am aware that much of what I say you will already know, but regardless I am going to start from the start.

The British Isles is the name given to the collection of islands including Great Britain and Ireland. Great Britain is the physical island that consists of Scotland, Wales and England. People from these places are 'British', much like anyone from North America is 'North American'. However, the people of Britain often identify themselves as 'Scottish', or 'English' (depending on where they are from), rather than 'British'. This is perfectly correct, and they have the right to call themselves this instead of 'British', just as you would call yourself a 'Canadian', instead of a 'North American'.

The United Kingdom is the political union of the Nations of Britain and Northern Ireland. People from the republic of Ireland are not part of the United Kingdom.

Now here is the part I think you have the biggest problem with.

I'll start with these definitions as given by the Oxford Dictionary:

Nation: a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular state or territory:

Country: a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory

The United Kingdom, as previously mentioned, is made up of the Nations of England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. These are definitely nations - they all include a large body of people that are united by their own common descent etc. and they inhabit a particular territory. Scotland has it's own devolved government - The Scottish Parliament. This, by definition, makes it a country. Northern Ireland has it's own devolved government - The Northern Ireland Assembly. This, by definition, makes it a country. Wales has it's own own devolved government - The National Assembly for Wales. This, by definition, makes it a country.

I have seen you mention before that these places are not countries, but constituent countries making up one larger country. But this, deduced from the facts above, is incorrect. Each 'constituent country' as you call them is, by itself, a country. It just so happens that all of these countries are part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - A UNION, not a country. The Union itself is presided over by the Parliament of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - which is NOT the government of a singular country. By accepting to be a part of the Union, each country of the UK must accept the laws of the UK Parliament, but it would be possible for any one of the countries to secede and become independent, with their current government remaining intact. Since it is possible for countries to secede with their respective governments remaining intact, it makes sense to conclude that Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland are all countries in their own right - not sub-countries or just 'nations'.

92.22.12.224 (talk) 06:31, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm currently volunteering to stay clear of that topic, until January 17, 2012. GoodDay (talk) 06:33, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Dear IP. And yet the British nation is also just that – a nation. Personally, my nationality is British – I do not feel particularly English – which it appears is what you are saying matters. Therefore the British nation has its country (by your definition) – the UK. What a pickle, eh? ✝DBD 18:08, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Daniel, could it be that you are saying . . . (gasp) . . . the IP may not be the ultimate authority on this matter? But I was about to petition for the admission of Louisiana to the United Nations! HuskyHuskie (talk) 03:11, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

The reason I don't believe Louisiana to be a country is due to the fact it shares it's history with the rest of the US - it was never its own country, whereas Scotland has been independent for the majority of it's existence - officially around 1000AD (but more likely around 843AD) to 1707AD is over 800 years. This is not including the fact that the initial Roman presence of Great Britain recognised the area that is now Scotland as separate from the rest of the island. Also, Scotland has no place in the UN as it is represented the the government of the United Kingdom, the same way Louisiana is represented through the USA. However that doesn't mean Scotland is not its own country. 92.22.18.112 (talk) 00:35, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Scotland is a country within a country, which is a clear definition of constituent country. Also, since constituent country is a description option for England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland - I choose to use that description. GoodDay (talk) 01:15, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

I think it's clear that this is a muddy affair, no matter who's defining the terms, and that honest people can disagree on the matter. HuskyHuskie (talk) 02:28, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes it is. That is why GoodDay gets into trouble when those citizens from the UK stress their individual nation status (English, Scottish, Welch or Irish) instead of the union. Just a question, does the European Union accepted the four individual countries or did it accepted the United Kingdom? Raul17 (talk) 02:44, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

The United Kingdom has only one membership in the UN. GoodDay (talk) 14:11, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

By the IP's definition, it would appear that England isn't a country. (And personally I prefer the definition that to be a country, you need your own airline and your own beer...) Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 15:40, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Constituent country is a better descriptive. GoodDay (talk) 15:45, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Which is a term I do not like, but think is the best. But what do I know, I am an Islanders fan!! Raul17 (talk) 01:27, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Until a majority of editors on the related articles start agreeing with me, there's little I can do. Atleast, it's mentioned in the Constituent countries of the United Kingdom article ;) GoodDay (talk) 01:55, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, one out of five gets you at least $1 million contract in baseball! I think Gov. Perry would get the Repulican nomination before these editors agree with you, sadly to say! Raul17 (talk) 03:39, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

No argument there. GoodDay (talk) 03:36, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

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Nay. I'll let the others continue to dispute/discuss the matter. He's an actor who was born in Ballymena, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom & that's good enough for me. GoodDay (talk) 02:57, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Wow! I think I will get some mentors! How did I missed Pipa & Sopa?!! Raul17 (talk) 04:16, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

What's going on with Pipa & Sopa? GoodDay (talk) 04:18, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Hee hee hee hee Blackout!!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:03, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Okie Dokie. GoodDay (talk) 15:29, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

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Acknowledged. GoodDay (talk) 17:51, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Euphemism ?

Is all you can see about the AE report is broken links?? Hopefully tad sloppy is a euphemism. Mo ainm~Talk 14:56, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

I've no interest in the arguments of the reports (on both sides), just the sloppiness. Yesterday, I had to fix up links from ONIH & Sono's reports. GoodDay (talk) 15:03, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

How's things?

Haven't heard from you for a while (though perhaps that means there haven't been any dramas?) How are things going? Steven Zhang ^{Join the DR army!} 22:49, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Quite well. I've dabbled into a couple of British/Irish things, but only briefly & certaintly non-disruptively. For the most part, I've been ghnoming away. Mind you, I became frustrated over recent developments at WP:HOCKEY - thus giving myself a reminder of why I resigned my membership from that WikiProject. GoodDay (talk) 00:38, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Lieutenant Governors of Nova Scotia numbering

GoodDay, someone is changing the numbering of the Lieutenant Governors of Nova Scotia. As it was you, I believe, that added the numbers to each article, I thought you might want to be made aware of these pretty sweeping changes. Best, --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 15:23, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Are his changes accurately following NS sources? GoodDay (talk) 15:31, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Welsh language

Hi GoodDay. Here we are again. You must have been aware that your removing the fact that Welsh is spoken in Wales from the infobox would be controversial. Please give enough time for a concensus to develop on the talk page before making a change. Also, your bold move was reverted (enjoyed the edit summary, btw), which should have resulted in discussion on the talk page rather than reverting to your version. I note you had made no previous edits to Welsh language. Please advise the circumstances that caused you to arrive at that article. If you intend to improve it then you are welcome. However, given your history you will forgive me if I have my doubts. You were supposed to be being mentored. What went wrong. Daicaregos (talk) 08:47, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

I've already contacted my mentors about my showing up at that article & the likelihood that you were going to raise opposition to my proposed changes. Anyways, having just faced what appears to be hostility here & at that article's talkpage, it's obvious that 'the wall' still controls those articles & that British & United Kingdom are treated as taboo terms. GoodDay (talk) 15:19, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

If you can't see why those edits were troublesome and were always going to be controversial, I don't think you can be trusted to control yourself. Blaming the problem on other editors, and hostility, shows an unwillingness to accept when you're wrong. Being invited to present a logical argument based on facts and policies, and then copping out with excuses of hostility points to little or no argument to back up your edits. We've been here too many times in the past and I don't see why the community needs to tolerate this behaviour. Perhaps a formal topic ban is the only way to prevent this disruption. I'm interested to hear what your mentors have to say on this. --HighKing (talk) 17:57, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm already under a virtual 'topic ban' concerning those articles; have been for years. When was the last time, a proposal of mine got adopted on those articles-in-question? I can't recall. I accept the exitance of 'the Wall' & therefore I'm not pursuing my proposal at the Welsh language article's infobox - even though United Kingdom is shown in the Scottish, Irish & English langues articles infoboxes. GoodDay (talk) 18:02, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Hail the Dark Lord Satan block

I did not make this block because of the username, it is not a username block. This is a disruption block block because nearly every edit this user made was confrontational. When combined with the fact that over 90% of his contributions were to noticeboards, user talk pages, his userpage, and other non-article pages this suggests intentional disruption. Prodego ^talk 21:02, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Very well. GoodDay (talk) 21:05, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

(For the benefit of others reading along) Other than that he likely chose the username to cause controversy, I agree with you that it would be an acceptable name. Prodego ^talk 21:07, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Okie Dokie. GoodDay (talk) 21:08, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Numbers as words or numerals

Hi

I find it a little misleading that you are changing from text to numerals on the pretext of "numerals, when above 'tenth'" - this is clearly not the case in MOSNUM:

• "numbers greater than nine are commonly rendered in numerals, or in words if they are expressed in one or two words"

More importantly GA and FA article review/candidates are often told to put numbers in the same expression, here your edits were not following that simple guideline, as mentioned also in MOSNUM:

• "Comparable quantities should be all spelled out or all figures: we may write either 5 cats and 32 dogs or five cats and thirty-two dogs, not five cats and 32 dogs"

Your edit:

• "is the fifth serial of the fourteenth season" -> "is the fifth serial of the 14th season"

Thanks Chaosdruid (talk) 12:49, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I learned from the F&W Encylopedia that 1st to 10th, should be changed to first to tenth. GoodDay (talk) 15:35, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Talk: Prime Minister of Canada - Ministerial Infoboxes

Hi, Would you like to voice your opinion about this topic? I see you are an experienced editor, so if you want to, please contribute to the discussion. 174.7.90.110 (talk) 20:27, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Re: Skills Competition

Hm.. Saw that. I think I remember seeing somewhere that youtube videos can't be provided as references and I can't find anything else supporting my statement. I'll probably just leave it.. not something I wanna get in an editing conflict over.. I appreciate you letting me know though! Cheers. Orlandkurtenbach (talk) 22:40, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Okie Dokie. GoodDay (talk) 22:41, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

WP:CANADA - A New Discussion About The Infobox

Hey GoodDay. It's me again. I just wanted to let you know that a discussion has been started at WP:CANADA and if you want to (please don't feel as if I am forcing you to) read my response and give your opinion, please do. I hope you read my whole response; I know it's long, but I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks, 174.7.90.110 (talk) 06:07, 7 February 2012 (UTC)