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Biased Intro/Overview

the opening paragraphs sound biased and and resemble propagando, does any else think this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.196.63.168 (talk) 00:46, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Move to "President FC"

Why was FC moved to "President FC". Shouldn't we be consistent with Bush's entry, which is not found under "President GWB", or Sarkozy's entry, not found under "President N Sarkozy"?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.10.72 (talk) 04:14, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mexico flood response

This deserves to be mentioned.. [1] --F3rn4nd0 ^{(Roger - Out)} 17:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Calderon has a master degree?

The following should be cleared... After growing up in Morelia, Calderón moved to Mexico City, where he received a bachelor's degree in law from the Escuela Libre de Derecho. Later on, he received a master's degree in economics from the Instituto Tecnológico Autónomo de México (ITAM) and a Master of Public Administration from the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University.[3]

Calderon probably studied at Harvard University, however he did not get Master of Public Administration. The reference uses as a source the same mexican government, where there are a lot of examples of people using false degrees. (Fox said that he had the same master degree). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.141.101.54 (talk) 07:01, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"President Calderon was a Mason Fellow at the Kennedy School and graduated with a Master in Public Administration (MPA) in 2000." Source: Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government Esteban Zissou (talk) 06:13, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Protection

This article has been attacting a lot of vandalism recently (and a lot of it is not reverted quickly). Perhaps it is better to semiprotect this page. Mixcoatl (talk) 23:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC). User Clowdi edited part of the introduction on March 07, 2011, after he found a corrupted passage that stated "Calderon thief the election."[reply]

Drug War and Drug Prohibition

Although Felipe Calderon is conservative on social issues like abortion, euthanasia, and gay marriage what is his stance on the drug war and drug prohibition in general? Even Vicente Fox who is from similar party circles saw the policy as a huge problem to the country in general; given the cartels and all. He was even about to legalize small amounts of illegal drugs until the US government pressured them otherwise. Does Calderon have a plan himself concerning prohibition? What has he said in public concerning this? He claims to be against authoratarianism and claims to represent political freedom. Wonder whether this is really true. Zachorious (talk) 20:43, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if you read Spanish but according to this famous interview he is against drug legalization. Later on he backtracked in most of what he said, so is hard to tell whether he was 100% sincere or just paying lip-service to his conservative base when running behind in the polls. Esteban Zissou (talk) 06:13, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I was wrong. According to Reuters, he just sent a bill to decriminalize small-time drug use (including cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, opium and marijuana. See Mexico seeks to decriminalize small-time drug use. -Esteban Zissou (talk) 21:11, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What is "contralinea" magazine?

What type of source is that? Who knows that magazine? Who publishes it?

That's why I deleted that paragraph —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.33.138.2 (talk) 22:28, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edits and commentary

In the last day I've made several reversions to new content in the article [2], [3], because the additions have constituted unsourced POV, or personal commentary, and as such are not acceptable. Especially on biographical and political subjects it is necessary to provide credible references to support any claims. JNW (talk) 02:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

pseudo free trade

Article affirms repeatedly that Calderon and his political party are pro free trade. Free trade would encompass major industries like agriculture and textiles, but USA has enormous trade distortions like their subsidies to their farming. Also, the father of economics, Adam Smith, considered the free movement of labor a part of free trade, which evidently is not present in NAFTA. DTMGO (talk) 02:32, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is no intent to argue the merit of these points, only to underscore the necessity to support changes with credible published sources. JNW (talk) 02:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK I will find sources to backup something that is fairly obvious and common sense to many. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DTMGO (talk • contribs) 02:43, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here is to those that believe that you can mention that Calderon is a practicing Roman Catholic because they found a source

Religion is a personal matter, and it can hardly, if ever be proven, if someone is practicing any given religion in their personal life.

It is also very hard to believe, and not common sense, that a head of state of a 100+ million country can observe Catholic doctrine with the type of job he has. Just look at everyday newspapers, a lot of problems are his responsibility both legally and morally.

In general you can only say that a person is a member or believes in any given religious body, but not that they practice the religion. --DTMGO (talk) 03:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have no axe to grind here regarding whether Calderon is or is not a "practicing" Roman Catholic (whatever "practicing" might mean in that context). This comment states my opinion in light of my understanding of Wikipedia:Editing policy.

The article as it currently stands says, "As a member of the Roman Catholic faith, Calderón opposes abortion, euthanasia, and gay marriage.", supporting that assertion by citing John-Henry Westen (July 6, 2006). "Daily Mass Catholic pro-lifer wins Mexico presidential elections over abortion supporter". LifeSiteNews. Retrieved 2008-06-09. {{cite web}}: External link in |publisher= (help). That cited source appears to be a catholic-focused advocacy site—probably not the most reliable source in the world, but probably not too shabby on this point. The cited article on that site quotes Inter Press Service News Agency (IPS) as describing Calderon saying: "He is known to be a devout, conservative Catholic, attending daily mass, and has not shied from acknowledging his stances against abortion, condom use, homosexual relations and euthanasia.". This is following on a WP:edit war alternating descriptions of Calderon between "a self-denominated" and "a practicing" Roman Catholic. If we are picking nits here, the article would probably be better off to describe Calderon as a "devout, conservative Catholic", echoing the description in the cited supporting source. Anyone interested in verifying the IPS story can do so here, but a subscription is required. I have not verified that story, but I do see that it has been widely quoted.

It is important to note here that, with a supporting source cited, Wikipedia is not asserting details about the degree of Calderon's commitment to his religion, Wikipedia is asserting that the cited supporting source reported some assertions about that. Wikipedia should report those assertions accurately. If some other source of equal reliability challenges those assertions, Wikipedia should report both sides, identifying the sources on each side inline in the article prose. See Wikipedia:Verifiability, and please take particular note of the lead sentence there.. -- Boracay Bill (talk) 01:59, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oudated information on murder rates.

The source for the murder rates in the last two pragraphs of the Security Policy section could be outdated as they are based, as the link says on "on United Nations 2008 data." Murders serioulsy increased on that same year, so I think that section must be revised and their source updated. They could be biased.Besides the article doesn't quote the actual investigation or the actual UN data—Preceding unsigned comment added by Fredegis (talk • contribs) 07:09, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Outdated (and probably biased) information on Domestic policy.

The last paragraph on the Domestic Policy section quotes the opinon of Mexican scholar Denisse Dresser praising Calderón's first year of administration. Dresser is now one of the harshest critics of Calderón's policies so I added the following:

She also pointed out that he had been forced to make important political concessions, which may have long-term negative consequences for democracy in Mexico. [34] Later, Denise Dressers's opinions on Felipe Calderón's administration swiftly became increasingly critical as reflected in an open letter published on September 2008 where she withrawed her former praises an claimed that President Calderón had made many wrong decisions by joining forces with what she called the "defenders of statu quo" (PRI,SNTE)losing the authority dose he had won on his first year of Administration. [35]

Help improve this section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fredegis (talk • contribs) 07:16, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One assessment would be sufficient, if she changes her opinions dramatically we cannot add everything about her and cite her excessively. If you object to her initial assessment, at most I would find removing such assessment reasonable. Excessive praise and harsh criticism are both non-neutral. Although her initial assessment was positive and not one of the most positive (as her second is described as one of the harshest) then her inconsistent is given due consideration in removing the first as well.Studentteacher1 (talk) 19:00, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bias in the Lead Section

I find the third paragraph in the lead section to the article to be very biased, particularly in the facts that are chosen and the way they are presented. It should not contain a comparison to Vicente Fox, the facts that are chosen appear to be hand-picked as to present a very positive image of his government and are presented with a lot of numbers, while the drug war, probably the most controversial part of his mandate, is presented without numbers, and without mentioning the controversy. Can we make it a little more fair and with more relevant figures?

I think that instead of mentioning numbers of hospitals, secure spots for kids 6 to 11 years old, numbers of universities created, and km of highways created, a random "office for social aid victims" he created, we should have something like GDP growth, change in world ranking in quality of education, change in world ranking of communication (telecom and roads) if there is such a figure, mention the controversy over the drug war, change/world rankings in murder rates and journalist safety, growth/ranking in foreign investment. Figures that paint a more accurate picture. Is there a reason that these facts were chosen? If not, I'd like to rewrite it in a non-biased way. -Solid Reign (talk) 16:19, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I partially agree, as the statements on the third paragraph in the lead section were not part of a summary, so that part was moved to domestic policy. Whoever added those facts, however, did cite the sources and are appropriate references to his Domestic Policy. A biography should be neutral and a biography of a famous politician should also take special care to avoid the negative commentary that goes with such high profile positions. Living persons and heads of state tend to require more care in wikipedia as per common wiki guidelines. Studentteacher1 (talk) 07:52, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Current lawsuit against Calderón before theICC should be mentioned

I strongly believe that the recent lawsuit against Felipe Calderón for human rights violation, carried out by Netzai Sandoval, should be included in his page. The fact that such an event is not mentioned while the approval ratings from 2009 are indeed present violates, in my opinion, wikipedia's following of everyday happenings.

Here is a link with the information in English: http://www.latestcnnnews.com/mexico-president-calderon-sued-in-international-criminal-court-for-human-rights-violation.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marsinche (talk • contribs) 22:02, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

rat men this guy is a rat