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Please post all new discussions at the END of the page, to allow for easier chronological tracking! Thank you! WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE March drive newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 backlog elimination drive update

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! Here's the mid-drive newsletter.

Participation: We have had 58 people sign up for this drive so far, which compares favorably with our last drive, and 27 have copy-edited at least one article. If you have signed up but have not yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us!

Progress report: Our target of completing the 2010 articles has almost been reached, with only 56 remaining of the 194 we had at the start of the drive. The last ones are always the most difficult, so thank you if you are able to help copy-edit any of the remaining articles. We have reduced the total backlog by 163 articles so far.

Special thanks: Special thanks to Stfg, who has been going through the backlog and doing some preliminary vetting of the articles—removing copyright violations, doing initial clean-up, and nominating some for deletion. This work has helped make the drive a more pleasant experience for all our volunteers.

Your drive coordinators – Dianna (talk), Stfg (talk), and Dank (talk)

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Li Xiannian

Just one question: Can I edit pages when I have references? Please-answer. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.156.141.122 (talk • contribs)

Since I believe you to be a sockpuppet of blocked editor Ana Sušac, I don't believe you should edit the page. However, I don't get to make that call. Since you have not yet been blocked, you are free to edit the page. However, if the sources you provide are not reliable, or if you misinterpret the facts presented in the references, or if you use references to give undue weight to certain facts over others, those edits will be reverted. Since you have demonstrated a clear desire to push a particular point of view about President Li, your edits will be given extra scrutiny. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:13, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Li Xiannian

But I post reference and you again delete my text - completely neutral text! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.156.146.4 (talk) 12:42, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The text in question, I'm guessing is this:

but later Li Xiannian,together with the third most powerful, Chen Yun became a hard-line opposition. However, Li Xiannian, Chen Yun and others, such as Wang Zhen and Bo Yibo are not completely stopped Deng's reforms, which they considered too fast, but they continued to warn errors of Deng's work.

There is nothing in the cited source that says anything about Li's opposition to Deng, only about his initial support of Deng. This is not surprising, given that the source is an official outlet of the PRC government, but notwithstanding the bias of the source, you cannot add facts that are not in the source, and claim that they are supported by the source. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:46, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is obvious that happiness is not on my side because I tried to indicate the sources, but always something goes wrong, and you, of course, immediately delete my text and do not leave me just one minute to set a reference ... It is obviously that I know lot better Chinese history and a great career of Li Xiannian, and one of the most popular items is the one that Li Xiannian and Chen Yun were the closest associates as much as 40 years, and your "famous and glorious" text about Li Xiannian are not even a single word mentioned about cooperation between Li Xiannian and Chen Yun, nor a complete relationship between the two and Deng Xiaoping, who were far the most powerful Chinese leaders from 1976 to 1992. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.156.146.4 (talk) 12:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You added text, with a reference, but the reference did not verify the text. When next you edit, add the text and reference together. And please learn to properly format references. Generally, when you reference a web page, the URL gets so mangled that the link does not work, and I have to go back and try to figure out which web page you actually intended to link to. And saying that it is obvious that you "know lot better Chinese history and a great career of Li Xiannian" doesn't really help anything. You know your own point of view of that history, but Wikipedia cannot rely on your view of history; we must rely on published sources. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:57, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have found on few places that Li Xiannian was one of the four the best and most powerful political leaders of China in the 80's. Once I set this, and added this text together with reference( text Li Bloodline),, but your fellow named Atlan was so hard to find this sentence in the text that wiped my editing for 2 minutes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.156.146.4 (talk) 13:03, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The "Li Bloodline" site you referenced (here) is from an obviously unreliable source. Read the reliable source guidelines. Even if it can be sourced, adding a line that "Li was one of the four most powerful leaders of China in the 1980s" does not significantly or meaningfully expand on the text that is already in the page about Li being one of the chief architects of China's economic policies in the 1980s. In other words, the article already says what it needs to about Li's prominence; any text you add just amounts to hero worship. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:09, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know you see it in the text but few get down to the subheading Red China, which is located in the middle of the text (obviously you not even read), and writes exactly like this: Li Xlannian was involved in the power struggle after Mao's death and was President of China. For a num ber of years Li. Xiannian was considered one of the four top leaders of Red China. For many years Li Xiannian did lots of traveling to places like Africa where he held high level meetings with other leaders. Ask Atlan to stop deleting my texts, including your last editing that Li was one of the most influential after the Cultural Revolution .. It would be nice if you little more improve a text, but apparently it is too difficult a task for you ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.156.146.4 (talk) 13:15, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I read the text. I have no dispute that the text includes the statements you noted. But this source is not reliable. That is the point that you fail to understand. Crackpot conspiracy theory websites that rail on about the presence of aliens among us are not the kinds of websites that Wikipedia chooses as reliable sources. If you would just read the reliable source policy, maybe you would understand. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:20, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Will you please remove (Redirected from Gahame surname) from the Gahan surname wiki page. It comes up on google as a jump to:navigation search.

I am going to do more research along with the Irish Herald on the Gahame surname so it works well on wiki. Also I shall get recognised references to help a Gahamepage work on wiki.

With Kindest Regards

Robert