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Aspartame production

I want to add that it is partly manufactured from a chemical by-product of the e.coli bacteria.

source: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP0036258.html http://lib.bioinfo.pl/pmid:16466681 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helios solaris (talk • contribs) 18:02, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is original research. A patent on one technique to produce a compound that can be synthesized by numerous techniques is meaningless, especially if there is no evidence that the specific technique is in use in the commercial market.Novangelis (talk) 18:11, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly you are mistaken according to this http://www.independent.co.uk/news/worlds-top-sweetener-is-made-with-gm-bacteria-1101176.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helios solaris (talk • contribs) 18:35, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That news article does not mention E. Coli. One reference currently in the article (Ref 40) describes two methods of aspartame production, neither of which use E. Coli or the methods reported in the other references you cite. The article could probably benefit from at least some elaboration on the current manufacturing methods, particularly if there is notable concern about fermentation methods that use microorganisms that are genetically modified for more efficient production of the phenylalanine portion of aspartame. ChemNerd (talk) 18:44, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is sufficient evidence for describing this method of production. There is no single method of production. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helios solaris (talk • contribs) 18:15, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The sources that describe the potential E Coli methods do not claim that they are currently used in production. The source that does describe current methods of production does not include the E Coli methods among them. How can you possibly conclude from this that there is sufficient evidence that the E Coli methods are used? It defies basic logic. It is possible that E Coli methods are used in production, but the fact remains that there is zero evidence presented here that supports this conclusion, and Wikipedia content needs to be based on verifiable information, not our own speculations. ChemNerd (talk) 19:07, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Independent article is from 1999 and does not mention e coli. TFD (talk) 18:32, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

American Centric

Once again controversy uses the American FDA as it's evidence. Do you not realise that most countries have their own regulatory bodies (the MHRA in the UK) - we dont approve things based on what the FDA says, so to claim a conflict of interest with the FDA and corporations who synthesize this, and use this as evidence that Aspartame is somehow bad (when no evidence exists by the way) then its just nonsense, and should be removed. If I removed it, no doubt it will just reappear.