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DateProcessResult
April 30, 2007Articles for deletionKept
September 26, 2009Peer reviewReviewed

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Are these submitted by wikipedia users? At least post some that are actually funny, they are all terrible and makes the meme look retarded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.100.244.77 (talk) 17:56, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

On the last example picture, the caption says "A sign parodying the lolcat site I Can Has Cheeseburger?" . The site name should be listed as "I Can Has Cheezeburger" , with a "z" in the place of the "s", as this is the official name of the site referenced. Renaface (talk) 05:40, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the "s" should be replaced with a "z." I would also like to point out that the "e" after the "z" in the suggested spelling you offered in your comment should also be deleted. I have made the change in the caption under the picture. NorthCoastReader (talk) 00:16, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Caturday!

It needs more mention of it. "LOLcats" are just a stolen meme. It was orginally Caturday. Get it right Wikipedians! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzzzac1v4 (talk • contribs) 10:45, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, Ceiling Cat predates LOLcats by more than 3 years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.148.219.124 (talk) 14:12, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gheæäg!

Sorry for not LOLing, but is the ridiculous spelling in the images obligatory? Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 12:10, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

More or less, see Lolcat#Format. Lolcat captions are said to be written in "kitty pidgin", with unusual grammar and often nonstandard spelling. --Cybercobra (talk) 12:18, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I see, thanks. Would be interesting to know if there are "dialects" of lolspeech... I'll read some further articles. Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 12:21, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The wider success of lolcats may derive from lolcat speech appearing to be kitty pidgin (or baby talk, as the article WRONGLY CLAIMS via a WRONG source), but I don't think it would be an exaggeration to say that the meme's origins have nothing to do with cats, and everything to do with a parody of the way, uh...less sophisticated internet users choose to communicate with each other online (im in ur base killin ur doodz). That is not a factor in now probably the majority of lolcats given the meme's hijacking by awful cat people who JUST DONT GET IT, but that is where it originally came from. im in ur wikipedia needin citationz. --Jamieli (talk) 17:20, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This article doesn't claim anywhere that lolcat speech "appears to be baby talk". It merely mentions that someone has compared the two. Also, it is not necessary to shout in all caps. rʨanaɢ (talk) 20:43, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think your "someone" should have the words "from a widely-read media source" after it. The "mention" uses a supposedly reputable source in order to fill out the article, which by definition is supposed to accurately describe the characteristics, and explain the significance, of its subject. The reason there is a "mention" of an AP/USA Today is because USA Today is a widely-read (and therefore reputable and trustworthy!) media source which has written about lolcats; it has nothing to do with the accuracy (and therefore function) of what they actually wrote. How inaccurate, I ask, would something from the AP have to be before it would be rejected for use by a Wikipedia article? Media at the level of the AP have not written accurately about the origins of lolcats because they don't know them. Now, I must be off: I'm going to pop over to Prince's article and add the sentence "Sinead O'Connor has likened Prince to a midget." --Jamieli (talk) 22:47, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Other lolcat

I vote for changing the lousy current first image with this one, which is obviously more appropriate: http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/yuanting/images/Wikipedia-lolcat.jpg

-- Jeroen De Dauw (talk) 19:35, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This has already been discussed multiple times. rʨanaɢ (talk) 23:23, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Which doesn't in any shape, manner or form make the opinion of requirement, or suggestion of a better image invalid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.148.219.124 (talk)

No one said his opinion was "invalid" (that's what makes it an opinion). It's just an opinion that will not be acted on. Perhaps you should read up on WP:CONSENSUS. rʨanaɢ (talk) 14:18, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Although it is in a predicious manner, quite amusing. The reaction for the cheese burger has shocked many as it is cool. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dude98f (talk • contribs) 18:18, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Revision of 8th of July, 2010 edits at 4:31 & 9:20

Yesterday I uploaded that photo by Harry Pointer used to replace the cat macro photo by Harry Whitier Frees. I added the Pointer photo to the carte de visite article, which I wikilinked to from this article. However, I left the Frees photo here in this article even though it was created later, because

A: I thought Frees's was actually the cuter of the two.

B: I think it's valuable to leave the later Frees photo in order to illustrate that the creation of early cat macros was more than just a one-off phenomenon limited to a single place/person (Pointer in England). If the Frees photo is removed, the he should at least be mentioned for in this article for his significance, and wikilinked to from this article somewhere.

However, I'm still for leaving Frees' picture of the kitten in the dress and high chair. Adrigon (talk) 19:10, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Mikael Häggström (talk) 21:22, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Move the "im in ur bed zleeping" image to the top?

I'd just go ahead and do it, but the images are chopped and changed so much I thought it was worth a note here first. The "im in ur..." format is typical for lolcats, as discussed in the article, while the other image, I'd be inclined to say, is simply not. I think the meta-humour is rather un-lolcat-esque. However, the main this that's changed is exactly that caption was actually mentioned in a very reliable source. J Milburn (talk) 16:30, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

In a recent BoxOffice magazine, I saw an article entitled: "3D - UR DOIN IT WRONG". Could that be a Lolcat reference, or is 'ur doin it wwrong' used for anything else? Also, an ad Hasbro had for Star Wars figures had the phrase: "MANDALARIANS R IN UR BASE, TRAINING YUR DOODZ". SSame question. 67.206.161.22 (talk) 08:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The "you're doin' it wrong/ur doin it wrong/et.c. misspellings" predates lolcats in general by several years. It spawned in 5chan as a pseudo-meme saying that stuck around to this day.

"I'm in ur base, killing ur doods", also does. It's a separate pseudo-meme saying. It is related to StarCraft's early years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.148.219.124 (talk) 14:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just a heads up

I made a link to lolcats from the search bar.--Cymbelmineer (talk) 16:17, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, you didn't. rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:19, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Guess I didn't add the edit summary. Whoops.--Cymbelmineer (talk) 21:18, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Original Cheeseburger cat

There needs to be a mention on this page of the original cheeseburger cat *before* it had its caption. I remember having the original cat on my computer for a long time, and it was only years later that I heard about "I can has cheezeburger" - to me, it was just a cat shoved in between a burger. Where is the image of the captionless cat? An important part of the lolcat history, to be sure. Thanks for all the hard work you do, my darling wiki gnomes. <3 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.157.211.102 (talk) 04:24, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Darling wiki gnomes? Mr. UnknownWikipediaUser, I believe the official term is a "wikipedian". Anyways, the "I can haz cheezburger?" image is under copyright. That image (to my knowlege) has been added to the page awhile ago, and has been removed because the origional copyright holder requested it to be removed. This proposal has been brought up several times since then, and each time has been turned down, to the extent of my knowlege.
BTY, for any work to become 100% public domain, the origional creator, publisher, editor, and anyone else involved in the making of the work must be dead for 75 years, unless if the creator consents to make it permanently in public domain. Furthermore, the copyright must be unbought for 75 years (this is why the "Happy Birthday" song is technically under copyright. Someone still legaly owns it). In other words, can you please bring this proposal up in 75 years from now?
Whoops. Forgot to sign it. Sorry. TheApplePi (talk) 02:08, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Cat macros have existed since at least the 1870s"

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I understand this has been reported in very reliable sources, but can someone change it? It should say "precursors" or something similar.

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Can you give us the 'very reliable sources' this is reported in? --Imagine Wizard (talk • contribs • count) Iway amway Imagineway Izardway. 14:43, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was requesting the vandalism be taken out of the article. Alikash (talk) 18:35, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. There is a source cited at the end of the paragraph. The fact that you don't like it doesn't make it vandalism. Can you provide reliable evidence that this is not accurate? rʨanaɢ (talk) 18:40, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This person has a point even if they could have been clearer. The etymology section of image macro makes it clear that using the term to describe the 19th century is anachronistic. I'll alter the page. Gonfaloniere (talk) 00:11, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Breading Cat

Could maybe use a picture of a breaded cat? CarrieVS (talk) 21:04, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OMG that would be asesome!!!! if I knew how to do it I would. Breading has actually gotten really popular latelyReginaldTQ (talk) 06:48, 1 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I guess there isn't a lot of room with some many pictures already. But there's more than one of just 'generic' lolcats without any specific point, so maybe one of those could be replaced with a breaded cat next to the Breading Cat section? But I wouldn't want to do that without some agreement, even if I did know how. CarrieVS (talk) 22:14, 5 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free to go for it either of you.
It's up to you but if it were me I'd remove "I want ur luv naw". There's already an example picture in the Lead, two is clutter and the other better depicts "lolspeak". I don't think you really need agreement, it's uncontroversial. There's been discussion about placement of "in ur bed zleeping" before but since we're not dealing with that it doesn't matter.
The picture needs to be "free". As there seem to none suitable on Commons, how about uploading one? After a search I found this [1]. Incidentally, you'd want the largest version. It's freely-licensed under CC‑by‑2.0, which means it's fine to upload. As you've new accounts you can log into Commons and it should automatically create an account for you. Upload is probably straightforward. Once it's there you only need to link it here. From a MoS point of view you'd put it on the left, facing the text. Something like [[File:nameyougaveimage.jpg|thumb|left|optionalcaption]]. --92.6.211.228 (talk) 13:49, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Harry Whittier Frees \u2014 What's Delaying My Dinner.jpg

Can someone fix this image link? I couldn't figure it out, k thx...! ReginaldTQ (talk) 06:38, 1 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Possible sources

I came across two press items today that might prove useful for expanding the article. It seems somebody wrote a Masters dissertation on the cultural phenomenon.

The second in particular contains information on segmentation of LOLCats consumers. --92.6.211.228 (talk) 15:28, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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