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Longest running blah blah continued

Nascarking-Read what you're replying to. The statistic has nothing to do with reality, especially given the fact that other weekly wrestling shows have had many more episodes. --Bix (talk) 17:24, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You'd tagged it as a point of view issue, but it's not one. The claim is cited, but by a primary source (i.e. WWE). I removed the POV tag and clarified the issue on the primarysource tag that I'd originally added a few months ago. --Jtalledo (talk) 13:17, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"It is the longest-running weekly episodic TV show in history." Isn't Meet the Press a weekly show? Doesn't Meet the press appear in "episodic" form? There may be something I'm missing here, and if so, please clarify things for me. Raw isn't even the longest running wrestling show, right? Shouldn't this be changed to say: "It is the longest running currently active wrestling show on TV"? I don't know much about the issue, but I feel like this is a junk statistic propped up by the WWE, seeing as how the reference is a book about the WWE.--4.226.153.182 (talk) 20:08, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It should be removed. WCW Saturday Night even ran for 28 years which is much longer than Raw has been on the air. I don't know how this fake WWE statistic has found it's way into the article. TheGary (talk) 08:38, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

900 or 901

How many episodes has Raw as of August 30, 2010? The infobox says 400, but the "Special episodes" states that the actual 400th episode was aired on August 23, 2010, and thus is should have 401 episodes. Which is correct? (Don't whatlist page) Armbrust Talk Contribs 13:19, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you have watched CM Punk's promo during this special episode, the episode when Triple H attacks Randy Orton in his home is numbered #824, which leads to #9OOth when we reach August 30th ! So, for WWE, it's the 900th ( for August 30th ) ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.8.211.165 (talk) 20:21, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's not actual anymore, as this information was removed. Armbrust Talk Contribs 20:41, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clean up

Tagged the article for clean up. There are too many tables. The international broadcast section isn't necessary. Wikipedia isn't a TV schedule. Quality television show pages don't have a list of every network that broadcasts the show. Same with the recurring segment table. But the worst is the "Special Episodes" table. There's over 30 entries in this one, most of which are from the last five years. What is a "Special" episode anyway? It's not like there's any criteria for this list, except that WWE promotes an episode as "special" and they do that for practically every other episode.

Another thing to look out for is the history section. This section is supposed to be about the Broadcast history of the show, format changes, competition, etc. But the 2010 section was full of stuff about storylines relating to Nexus, etc. And then there was that bit about "Raw Roulette", which was in the so-called "Special episodes" section anyway. I removed that stuff, but Nascarking reverted my changes without explanation. --Jtalledo (talk) 12:09, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Another special episode you should point out is the historic March 26, 2001 episode of Raw when the WWE purchased WCW. J4lambert (talk) 13:19, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The name is only sometimes stylized as "RAW"

In fact, most of the time, it is not stylized that way by the WWE themselves. Implying that it always is gives readers a false impression. Croctotheface (talk) 07:34, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Old Taping Scheduals

Raw has never been taped on Tuesdays. They taped in blocks, one show live, the the next show right after. http://www.thehistoryofwwe.com/raw93.htm shows the record dates. Not sure how to word it though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.106.164.183 (talk) 13:35, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do we want to elaborate on the "Anonymous GM" gimmick

I am tempted to add a brief footnote to the notes section for the "anonymous Raw GM" gimmick, explaining how the gimmick works. It would say something brief, such as a chime sounding to cue Cole (or whoever else) to the podium to read an announcement, usually pertaining to a match, a wrestler currently standing in the ring, and so forth. What's your thoughts, or would this be going too far? [[Briguy52748 (talk) 20:10, 12 April 2011 (UTC)]][reply]

Special episodes

Since during many of the special episode's there are differnt matches and even guests could some of the shows have there own page. Also why not add Raw Roulette for 6/27/11, and the Rock brithday show had so many celebrity birthday wishes. We should also place where this shows take place (city and arena). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 (talk • contribs)

What about the WWE Title Tournament that was held on July 18 of this year? That should be a special episode too, they don't happen often. And July 25 marked the first time that there were two WWE Championship matches on Raw, both resulting in new champions. That should be noted too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.121.121.158 (talk) 00:02, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mantaur's RAW debut was special. The one where Big Boss Man ate his opponent's dog was special. Jackie Gayda's nipple was special. Every episode has something that someone could consider special. We can't list them all. If you can find a reliable source calling an episode special AND explaining why, then it might be special enough for Wikipedia. Till then, just an opinion. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:29, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WWE RAW Roulette

RAW roulette is a special episode so someone needs to re add them back in i would but i dont have the dates for them--BlackDragon 04:13, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

RAW Roulette is a yearly thing like the WWE Draft... BlueChainsawMan (talk) 19:34, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I just added the 5 occurrences of Raw Roulette to the Special Episodes list with dates and ratings... BlueChainsawMan (talk) 10:03, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

show name change?

anyone know if the name of WWE's flagship Monday Night program is now known as Raw Supershow instead of Monday Night Raw, if the name change is the official, i suggest the name of the Wikipedia page for WWE Raw to be change to reflect the name change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boutitbenza 69 9 (talk • contribs) 23:26, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Until the name is changed on the corporate website, no.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 01:57, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We should know this soon, also lets list the 1st Raw Supershow as a special episode 952, also let us list the special episode # with each respected show --Cooly123 01:52, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

And what makes the 1st "Supershow" special?   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 01:57, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Promotional material used in the USA Network, WWE.Com and the Show's graphics can let you know that the there has been a name change Kerbymanuel (talk) 22:10, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And it may be only temporary. Let's just wait and see.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 22:36, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So, about how much time do we have to wait 'till we're convinced that Raw SuperShow it's legit??? Kerbymanuel (talk) 23:39, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I would say it's not official until the WWE changes the names of the shows (or perhaps cuts down the shows from 3 to 2, or 1) on the corporate website.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 00:08, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Actually the WWE Live Tour site (www.wwelivetour.com) is promoting ever Raw show for the rest of the year (except England and Mexico) as Raw SuperShow Kerbymanuel (talk) 02:12, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Still isn't the website that counts.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 02:17, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
WWE has long promoted all dual-branded houseshows under the Supershow name. --Jtalledo (talk) 20:20, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
But the last SD that aired was referred to as simply SD, no "super" or anything like that.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 11:26, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

International RAW

Before it gets deleted once again , the 1st RAW Tribute to the Troops was in Afghanistan , the second and third was in IRAQ . So it makes the count to 8 countries that broadcasted RAW Gpetit89 (talk) 22:46, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Theme Songs

is it possible to add the past and current theme song for Raw and Smackdown? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Usa409 (talk • contribs) 00:02, 16 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of the realness of the matches

A lot of people seem to think that these wrestling matches are real and that the wrestlers are actually hitting each other, I don't know why there is such confusion about this. But this article doesn't mention that the wrestlers are actually acting and that no one is really being hit, shouldn't that be a key point in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lolawl (talk • contribs) 04:04, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All covered in the article Professional wrestling.--UnquestionableTruth-- 10:32, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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WWE RAW 15th Anniversary - Battle Royal Match

pls more infos about the 15th Anniversary and the gimmick battle royal match.

Participants: Al Snow, Bart Gunn, Doink the Clown, Repo Man, Steve Blackman, Pete Gas, Bob Backlund, Gangrel, The Goon, IRS, Flash Funk, Scotty II Hotty, Skinner, Jim Anvil Neidhart, Sgt. Slaughter, Gillberg.

Elimination (in this order): Gillberg, Bob Backlund, Doink, Gangrel, Al Snow, Pete Gas, Bart Gunn, Steve Blackman, Flash Funk, The Goon, Repo Man, Jim Anvil Neidhart, Scotty II Hotty, Skinner, Sgt. . WINNER: IRS

Afterwards Ted DiBiase the Million Dollar Man came to the ring and offers IRS money to eliminate himself. He puts the money in the briefcase and hops over. New WINNER: Ted DiBiase the Million Dollar Man — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.201.146.249 (talk) 03:23, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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"It is the longest-running weekly episodic tv show in history"

This is something that WWE keep boasting about, yet the only link appears to be to WWE! Surely without a neutral third-party WP:RS such a statement can not be included? 41.132.116.62 (talk) 09:22, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Special

Shouldn't there be "WWE Raw: Featuring Brock Lesnar" from when Brock Lesnar won against John Cena in the Special Episodes?--Mjs1991 (talk) 10:57, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

John Cena actually won and Triple H changed it back to WWE Raw that night. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1717ABC1717 (talk • contribs) 02:52, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Self-promotional claptrap

I guess a WWE employee routinely checks this page to make sure their lie of having the longest running show on TV remains intact. Well, Newsflash to WWE: this is not a WWE website. We need to have real facts on here. RAW is only WWE's longest show, NOT the longest period. Just like WWE's publicly announced attendance rates which are "for entertainment purposes only", much of WWE's "Did You Know" propaganda is just simply not true.172.162.4.204 (talk) 15:53, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, yeah, I agree. I haven't seen any source for this claim other than WWE themselves. It should probably mention that this is exclusively a WWE claim. --Jtalledo (talk) 01:12, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The thing is, Wikipedia really isn't concerned with truth, just verifiability That's not a complaint or an insult, just a fact. Reliable sources have made the claim. Wikipedia very clearly attributes the claim to the specific source. The reader can (should, anyway) consider the source and judge the truthfulness of it for themselves. You can't make the claim (in the article) that this is exclusively a WWE claim without a reliable source backing that claim. An editor can't cite his own knowledge ("...propaganda is simply not true") or lack of knowledge ("I haven't seen any source..."). That is considered original research and is absolutely prohibited here. If you can find a source saying Raw is NOT the longest-running show, you can add the counterclaim, but you can not remove the WWE claim. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:11, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Except it can be verified as not true its verifiable that WCW Saturday Night ran longer. It can be verified that many other weekly TV shows have run longer. While there might not be many sources out there specifically challenging the fact the WWE says, there are many sources verifying other shows that contradict the statement, which is reason enough to leave the statement out in the interest of being encyclopedic. Pawnnolonger (talk) 04:58, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WCW Saturday Night was only on the aired for 9 years. WCW/Mid-Atlantic had Saturday shows before that, but they were different shows (i.e. "Georgia Championship Wrestling"). TJ Spyke 01:36, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This is a bit like saying that Monday Night Raw only ran for 4 years, as the name of the show was changed to Raw is War in 1997, or that a new show debuted in 2002 when WWF changed their name to WWE. The show might have changed it's name, and the company providing the talent that was featured might have have changed (e.g. Black Saturday), but the show itsself ran from 1972 to 2000. WWE's self promotion aside, their statement is incorrect and it should be changed. The Todd (talk) 17:15, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Authority figures

I think that we have to include more AF. I only see AF since 2001. Where the AF before 2001 are? I mean, Shawn Michaels, Mick Foley (commisoners), Sgt. Slaugther, Gorilla Moonson...--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 14:37, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Commissioners (Slaughter, Michaels, Foley, Regal) and Presidents (Tunney, Monsoon, etc.) weren't authority figures specifically for Raw. They were authority figures for the entire WWF. SilentGanda (talk) 18:09, 28 July 2012 (UTC) well i thank the wwe raw needs to brank back kharma and show this divas a real fighting champion wwe raw needs kharma back yes im a big fan of hers and yes she would show all the divas that it takes more that showing off to be a real champion in wwe so wwe if u reading i beg u to plz brank kharma back she would be a great spot for the divas[reply]

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