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Hello again from the Help Project! In the last newsletter (which was quite a while ago sorry!) I talked about my fellowship and the plans for improving the main portal page, Help:Contents. Well I'm sad to say that my fellowship is now over, but very happy to say that the proposed improvements to that page have been completed and implemented. Do check it out if you haven't already. Another important and frequently used help page, Wikipedia:Contact us, has also seen a significant revamp. You may recognise the design inspiration from the new tutorial pages. In project news, we now have a subscription to the "article alerts" service. Any deletion nominations, move discussions, or requests for comments on pages within the Help Project's scope will now show up at Wikipedia:Help Project/Article alerts. So that's definitely a page which project members might want to watch. Any comments or suggestions for future issues are welcome at Wikipedia:Help Project/Newsletter. If you don't wish to receive this newsletter on your talk page in future then just edit the participants page and add "no newsletter" next to your name. |
Homework
Hey. Mark Arsten told me that you might be interested in this article: Homework (Daft Punk album). It is now at FAC and well, it can be a very interesting read. Regards. — ΛΧΣ21 05:49, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata reconfirmation
Since you weren't active, I've decided to notify you on your home wiki that your reconfirmation RFA on Wikidata has started. Regards, — Moe Epsilon 04:09, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Re: "Li Sao" illustrations
Hi SarahStierch: First I'd like to thank you for your fine work. Just this morning, I was thinking how wonderful to find some illustrations for the "Li Sao" and related articles. How wonderful to see someone else had been working in this area and was ahead of me! I wouldn't bother you about this, but I guess as WDL Wikipedian in residence, you should know that the Illustrated Li Sao actually appears to be the Chu Ci anthology (despite the title printed on the book cover), of which "Li Sao" is one of many sections. I'll try to work on this, at least in English Wikipedia and Commons. It might take a while, since if it keeps on raining like this we'll probably loose PG&E here, plus Wikipedia is apparently headed into read-only mode for a few days, plus I still have to finish reading through the material, plus.... Anyway, thank you again. Dcattell (talk) 22:01, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hi there. So you believe the documentation on the WDL website is incorrect? I'm currently wading through the content from their website that has been uploaded to Commons. This is a pretty big deal if this isn't what they're saying it, since it's part of the Library of Congress and we'll have to inform LOC staff. Thanks! SarahStierch (talk) 22:51, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- Also, how can we prove that it's not the Li Sao? I just need to make sure I have all the necessary information before I present this to WDL/LOC. Thanks! SarahStierch (talk) 23:04, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- For a student of the Classical Chinese language (not the most popular language, since it's a "dead language", like Latin), it's clear that there is some inaccuracy in the description at WDL (not sure about LOC yet). It's more like a bit of a confusion or mix up, than a really huge error, though it seems to be worth addressing. Basically, the 1645 book is a Qing dynasty edition of a poetry anthology of which the known editions have usually been published under the title of the Chuci (meaning collected materials in or of the style of the ancient Chinese state named Chu), which has had many editions. The most famous (and signature) poem is "Li Sao", by Qu Yuan. The edition at WDL happened to be re-titled with the main title "Illustrated Li Sao". It probably has a subtitle somewhere that says "And Other Poems by Qu Yuan", or something like that. So, it's true that the images are all from a book called "Illustrated Li Sao"; however, not all of the images involved are of the poem "Li Sao", just the ones in the "Li Sao" section. There are other sections where different poems are illustrated, for example the one you posted at Li Sao is from "Lord of the East", as the caption on the picture indicates (東君), although in older forms of the Chinese characters (the modern simplified version is even more different). Anyway, the poem "Lord of the East" is not the poem "Li Sao", even though it's in a book titled Illustrated Li Sao (and other poems). Thus, that one image is an illustration of the poem "Lord of the East", from the book Illustrated Li Sao but it wasn't an illustration of the poem "Li Sao"! Hence the confusion! That's it, basically, thought it gets a bit more complicated. Let me see what I can do in the next couple of days, and I'll look a bit more into it and do what I can to help come up with a detailed explanation/proof. I should be able to get some help from some academically-oriented editors that are into Classical Chinese, maybe user:Keahapana, if Keahapana's not too disgruntled about the CI stuff. Dcattell (talk) 00:30, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yes I'll gladly try to help. First, I'm confused about your Dong jun 東君 "Lord of the East" (Hawkes p. 112) reference. Are we talking about the caption on Fichier:Li sao illustré 2 1.png? From my limited familiarity with seal graphs, this caption reads: Sanlü dafu 三閭大夫 "Lord of the Three Wards" (a title referring to Qu Yuan, see "Yufu" Hawkes p. 207), buzhu卜居 "divining where to live", and apparently kangshou 糠手 "chaff hand" (which I can't find, perhaps a means of divination?, maybe not 糠?). Compare Emperor Yōmei's daughter Nukade hime 糠手 in this ja interwiki 糠手姫皇女. Also, check out these Scenes Illustrating Melodies from the Chu Ci. Keahapana (talk) 03:52, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- For a student of the Classical Chinese language (not the most popular language, since it's a "dead language", like Latin), it's clear that there is some inaccuracy in the description at WDL (not sure about LOC yet). It's more like a bit of a confusion or mix up, than a really huge error, though it seems to be worth addressing. Basically, the 1645 book is a Qing dynasty edition of a poetry anthology of which the known editions have usually been published under the title of the Chuci (meaning collected materials in or of the style of the ancient Chinese state named Chu), which has had many editions. The most famous (and signature) poem is "Li Sao", by Qu Yuan. The edition at WDL happened to be re-titled with the main title "Illustrated Li Sao". It probably has a subtitle somewhere that says "And Other Poems by Qu Yuan", or something like that. So, it's true that the images are all from a book called "Illustrated Li Sao"; however, not all of the images involved are of the poem "Li Sao", just the ones in the "Li Sao" section. There are other sections where different poems are illustrated, for example the one you posted at Li Sao is from "Lord of the East", as the caption on the picture indicates (東君), although in older forms of the Chinese characters (the modern simplified version is even more different). Anyway, the poem "Lord of the East" is not the poem "Li Sao", even though it's in a book titled Illustrated Li Sao (and other poems). Thus, that one image is an illustration of the poem "Lord of the East", from the book Illustrated Li Sao but it wasn't an illustration of the poem "Li Sao"! Hence the confusion! That's it, basically, thought it gets a bit more complicated. Let me see what I can do in the next couple of days, and I'll look a bit more into it and do what I can to help come up with a detailed explanation/proof. I should be able to get some help from some academically-oriented editors that are into Classical Chinese, maybe user:Keahapana, if Keahapana's not too disgruntled about the CI stuff. Dcattell (talk) 00:30, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
- Also, how can we prove that it's not the Li Sao? I just need to make sure I have all the necessary information before I present this to WDL/LOC. Thanks! SarahStierch (talk) 23:04, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
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Music For All Seasons Help
Hi Sarah, I have been working on a wikipedia page for Music For All Seasons, a non-profit music therapy organization in New Jersey. I am new to Wikipedia and after trying multiple times to create a page, I have been denied. And I am looking for some help. After you reviewed my page in October, I spent some time really working on it and updating the sources and finding valid sources. Any help or suggestions you could give me to help me get this page published would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! Courtney081 (talk) 15:32, 25 January 2013 (UTC)Courtney081 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Music_For_All_Seasons
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Edit-a-thon Saturday
Hey there, you signed up "maybe" for the edit-a-thon tomorrow afternoon at Tech Liminal. Hope that turns into a "YES!!" -Pete (talk) 03:58, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
iRobust deleted?
I spent some time starting a article on a serious scientific society. Did you happen to take a look at the website of the society before deleting the article? The article that I started was just a stub. But it is likely that members of the society would be happy to expand the article.
iRobust is a highly significant society as evidenced by the prestige of the members of its Board as listed in the article. It has already had tremendous impact with its first Symposium Inconsistency Robustness 2011. The Program Committee of its forthcoming symposium Inconsistency Robustness 2014 includes the international leading experts.Untalker (talk) 16:16, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hi there. I'm really sorry I had to delete your article. After extensive research I determined that iRobust was a non-significant organization at this time. Perhaps it's WP:TOOSOON for the organization to have it's own article. See, all Wikipedia articles have to meet a "notability" guideline. We even have guidelines for organizations, which you can find here: WP:ORG. Once the organization has recognized in numerous reliable sources, it should be able to be included in Wikipedia, but right now, it appears it does not. Sorry :( SarahStierch (talk) 18:59, 26 January 2013 (UTC)yar
- The iRobust society was prominently features in the January 2013 CACM (flaghship journal of the largest professional computer society). 69.12.253.11 (talk) 18:39, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hi there. I'm really sorry I had to delete your article. After extensive research I determined that iRobust was a non-significant organization at this time. Perhaps it's WP:TOOSOON for the organization to have it's own article. See, all Wikipedia articles have to meet a "notability" guideline. We even have guidelines for organizations, which you can find here: WP:ORG. Once the organization has recognized in numerous reliable sources, it should be able to be included in Wikipedia, but right now, it appears it does not. Sorry :( SarahStierch (talk) 18:59, 26 January 2013 (UTC)yar
Hi Sarah, small issue on the nom. Could you reply there? Thanks. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:48, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- On a related note, Template:Did you know nominations/Wikipedian in Residence. I'm impressed at how thoroughly you're following the COI guidelines at the talk page of your article. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:44, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
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