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Croats, Serbs? Why not just Bunjevci?
I have no idea how in the world has this discussion gone to a debate about the assimilation of the Bunjevci people, either to the Croatian or Serbian side. This disgusting spillage of local dirty politics has really no place on Wikipedia. Why on earth is this article a part of "a series of articles on Croats"? Vlahs, for example, are present both in Serbia, Romania and in a few other countries, and they're are most certainly not classified as Romanians. This too goes for Roma, Bosniaks, etc. The Bunjevci are an ethnic group, with their own dialect, their own cuisine and their own unique history. If, due to major year-long pressures from both Serbian and Croatian sides, should some of them choose to switch over to another ethnicity, that's their choice.
BureX (talk) 00:28, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
- It is not nearly as simple as you try to portray it. "Vlachs" are not present in Romania under that name, and they certainly are classified as Romanians at least by some. In both cases, we have large subgroups which moved from their original environment and "spun off", before their original group underwent the period of nationalism and building of a nation-state. Both Vlachs and Bunjevci (and Serb/Montenegrin Montenergrins) have the same problem where their primary ethnic affiliation is ambiguous or mixed, to different extents. You cannot just put large groups people in drawers: "Croats go here, Bunjevci go there". How come that there are about equal numbers of Croats and Bunjevci on Serbian census, when we know that most of these people are Bunjevci by origin? How come that Democratic Alliance of Croats in Vojvodina and its spinoffs operates in Subotica, heartland of Bunjevci?
- As I said, however, we should somewhat limit the consideration about the ethnic identity, it ate the whole article. No such user (talk) 08:49, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
- There's that politics talk again... most went the Croatian route due to the availability of a better passport, also most likely chasing hope in which their rights would get extended as much as the Hungarian minority's did in the recent years. Minorities who have an independent state behind them usually get a bigger slice of the cake. I'm not willing to decide which side does a Bunjevac choose... what I'm advocating here is that this should not be an article labelled "Part of a series of articles on Croats", that's it. BureX (talk) 20:49, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
They are a separate ethnic group which lives mainly in Serbia,where they are recognized as such.They are not Croats.