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Because of the discrepancy in birth dates, I asked David Wharton of the Los Angeles Times, who broke the story. He confirms 1933, age 80: "We found multiple bios with two different birthdays. Confirmed the correct one with the family." —[AlanM1(talk)]— 17:32, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
They confirmed with "public records". Considering the Buss family can't get details correct in the media when negotiating a contract for a coach in their own family, I'd go with public records over an anonymous family member. (You knew someone was going to bring in Phil Jackson into this.) Lulaq (talk) 19:26, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree. We don't know what supposed "public records" are being cited, and I think that going with a primary source is far more likely to be accurate. What happens and is reported about contract negotiations is hardly a similar subject. I've emailed BBerg's most recent article's reporter, who hasn't yet replied. I'll copy his editor. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 19:38, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Does it matter? What third party is more accurate than a family member that was good enough for the LA Times (a second party) to run with in the headline for an LA icon? And ABC News, ESPN, and the New York Times, among others. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 22:23, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Public records and an interview with the individual is more reliable than an anonymous family member. What is disconcerting though is, 24 hours later, if you do a search online, you still see a dispute between these two years. At this point, I would like for us to see a primary, but verifiable, source (as opposed to a news article). How can this be so hard (for the media community, not editors)? Lulaq (talk) 00:00, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
While they did not respond to me, and did not comment anywhere on the discrepancy, Bloomberg has now changed their article (as of 2013-02-19T05:00 UTC) to show 80.[3] —[AlanM1(talk)]— 13:47, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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It says his 79th birthday was in 2013, it would mathematically be his 80th birthday. This is in the section regarding his personal life and death.
24.59.97.149 (talk) 01:02, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Apparently there were conflicting reports about his birth year, so the article went through some changes while that was sorted out. It says 80 now. RudolfRed (talk) 01:21, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
We're saying 80 now because a preponderance of news outlets are saying 80, but a significant number are still saying 79. To channel Donald Trump here, we need to see a birth certificate to resolve this. (This issue is still under investigation. Lulaq (talk) 03:21, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
