Talk:Joyce Brothers

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Gay Icon Project

In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:09, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Now I'm a sraight guy and don't profess to have a comprehensive knowledge of who is or what makes a gay icon. However, I have a very hard time believing that Joyce Brothers would qualify. Realkyhick 19:19, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't she one of the first psychologists to suggest that homosexuality isn't an illness? Cranston Lamont 20:37, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Birthday?

This page states that Joyce Brothers was born on October 20, 1928. There seem to be several other sources which give different dates [1][2]. The Answers.com page gives both the 1927 and 1928 birth dates throughout the page. Also, the October 20 Wikipedia page doesn't list her birthday there, although the September 20 one does (under 1928). Could this please be verified? 124.191.65.50 11:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've come here to raise the same question. This astrological site has her born on October 20, 1928, at the rather precise time of 6:21 pm. Of course, that’s only as good as their source, which says: “Yoe Stein quotes Norma Lee Browning, "Sydney Omarr: Astrology and The Man," data from Omarr”.

October 20 in 1927 and 1929 also appear in ghits.

September 20 is a much more popular date, but the year still varies, usually 1927 or 1928, but also 1929.

This purports to be her own MySpace page, where she says she was born September 20, 1925.

For a third possible date, this Jewish source, which we have in the article, says she was born October 29, 1929, but that may be a typo for October 20.

So, how can we be certain she was born in either 1927 or on September 20? -- Jack of Oz ^{[your turn]} 23:18, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cheating

I deleted a sentence in the article that Brothers had "cheated" during her appearance on The $64,000 Question. This is untrue. Moreover, most of the stories surrounding her appearance on the show reflect what is summarized at answers.com:

Though Dr. Joyce Brothers was disliked by Charles Revson, whose Revlon cosmetics firm was the sponsor of The $64,000 Question, and was therefore given difficult questions about boxing, she managed to answer without help and won legitimately against her coached opponent.[3]

Please don't libel. 75.46.106.222 (talk) 17:35, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A website "Answers" citation as a reference is both bogus and unfactual, lacking in peer review, and totaly opinionated.

Nearly anyone can write such an "Answer": This does not make is factual. Use of such a statement is unsupported in references and the statement should be deleted. Further aggravating the hyperbole of the above statement with the emotional catchphrase "please dont libel" only supports shifting the libel from one party (if it ever existed) to another! Making Revson the scapegoat via an unsupported and opinionated website statement is so much worse that the original Wiki statement and the entire edit should be removed as being purely cosmetic.99.2.69.38 (talk) 01:48, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Laurelton?

I could have sworn she was born in Laurelton, Queens, a borough of New York City. I grew up there and she was our native born star. Bank robber Willie Sutton lived there once (our star - not so much) but she was a native. I could have sworn she even said on a TV show in the 70's that she was from Laurelton (or did I see it in a school film or something). Anyway, I'm supprised to see that now she was born in New York City, New York. I'm just saying. Anyone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Morefaith (talk • contribs) 20:36, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Game show exoneration: Verified vs Suggested

In the Career section, the term "verified" was used to describe Brother's knowledge of boxing in the game show scandle era regarding her claim of no proir knowledge of answers. A reference is cited to support the statement's verification, however the cited reference is both anecdotal and itself unsupported, lacking factual support, and is purely conversational.

In fact, Brother's non-involvement in the game show answers controversy was never "verified", however other sources (sources not cited in the article) do relate that she was later to answer questions of similiar difficulty during the course of investigations. In conjunction with the weak reference which the article cites, one may reasonably conclude that her lack of complicity is suggested and/or supported by the subsequent investigations, however no actual "verification" either ever exists or was ever reported to exist. Further, no "lie detection" or other such examinations (eg. pentothal, hypnosis, ekg testing) were ever given, no statements from producers in support, thus making the useage of the term "verification" inapropriate and overly zealous in its representation of Brother's innocence.

One may accept Brother's innocence based on her statements and ability to answer similiar questions but may not claim that the same innocence or non-complicity was somehow "verified". 99.2.69.38 (talk) 01:36, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]