Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cardiff North (geographical area)

Cardiff North (geographical area)

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There is no such geographical place as Cardiff North unambiguously defined by any reliable sources. This article seems to be an area based on an arbitrary line invented by the author of the article. True, there are/were political parliamentary constituencies, Cardiff North, Cardiff South, Cardiff South and Penarth and Cardiff West, but these are well defined and already have Wikipedia articles. I came across these invented areas after an editor began wikilinking them to the words "north", "south", "west" etc. in Cardiff articles. The image in is based on political allegiances (while the map in West, South and East seems to have been invented by a wiki editor). Subsequently I've noticed a discussion has taken place on Talk:Cardiff North (geographical area), including an opinion from a non-involved independent editor which makes it clear this seems to be WP:OR and innappropriate. Cardiff isn't Berlin or Jerusalem, with walls or defining internal borders - time for these invented and confused articles to go, in my view.

I am also nominating the following related pages because of similar reasons - these geographical areas are an invention and open to dispute:

Sionk (talk) 22:22, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wales-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:18, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete These are not separate places or significant officially defined areas. London has separate North, East and South articles, but the Cardiff areas are not as well recognised and coverage appears to be insufficient to meet the notability guideline. Peter James (talk) 18:10, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Merge any useful content back to Cardiff or split into articles on localities. There is no robust definition for these four divisions of Cardiff, so that where they start and end is a matter of POV. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:27, 17 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dusti^{*Let's talk!*} 01:59, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge - anything salvageable back to Cardiff. The specific divisions of north/south/east/west are all a matter of opinion and it will screw everything up if we let people add what they want to division articles like this that have no clear borders. öBrambleberry of RiverClan 14:53, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - A simple Google search will reveal that these terms are in widespread usage, far from being invented as the nominator claims. Admittedly, the areas are loosely defined, but the same is true for North London, etc. so this does not constitute a reason for deletion. These divisions of the city are culturally different and therefore warrant retention. The simple addition of references can solve the problem of WP:OR. Perhaps a constructive, rather than hostile, approach to this issue is more appropriate. Welshleprechaun 15:06, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]