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Planespotters.net

Hi again FoxyOrange. Cool that you got a DYK for Lufthansa Flight 615. I just wanted to let you know that I've removed Planespotters.net as a support for the fleet table at Libyan Airlines, as it's not a reliable source. Sp33dyphil (talk · contribs) and I had a discussion regarding the inclusion of this source and aerotransport.org, and s(he) pointed out that the inclusion of ch-aviation is more suitable, as this one seems to be more professional (I'm actually in the process of replacing aerotransport for ch-aviation in many articles). Please let me know what you think. Cheers.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 16:35, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, no offense taken. I am under the impression that there is not really any (reliability) difference between planespotters, airfleets and ch-aviation, though. I cannot see why an (alleged) more professional "look" should be used as an argument in such a question. Personally, I prefer planespotters, as no conscription is needed, and seating configurations are displayed, too (as you have removed this source, the configs for the A320 of Libyan Airlines are now unreferenced, btw). Because all three websites are ubiquitiously used as sources for Wikipedia articles, one could argue that their reliability is established by normal editing consensus.--FoxyOrange (talk) 16:45, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I have to add that I really should not have chosen to add that source: You had already caught me once before and said that it is likely not reliable. Compared to your great work, I tend to be quite sloppy with my referencing (though I'd say that I did quite a good job at Lufthansa Flight 615). Unfortunately, news articles about airlines usually only deal with a recent order or delivery, and do not give an overview of the whole fleet.--FoxyOrange (talk) 16:54, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Notifying you is the appropriate. Hope you don't mind me inviting people into this discussion (I already did with Sp33dyphil). As with hijackings, maybe it's time for raising this matter at WT:AIRLINE too. In the meantime, MilborneOne (talk · contribs)'s opinion will be appreciated. I'll be watching.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 17:00, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've just posted at WT:Airlines.--FoxyOrange (talk) 17:29, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Aerologic cargo

Please familiarize yourself with the latest requirement for cargo destinations at Wikipedia:AIRPORT-CONTENT#Body. You need a proof it is a cargo flight. DHL/Aerologic network map offers no such evidence and doesn't even indicate a direction or stops. Most of your additions should be removed. HkCaGu (talk) 16:52, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear HkCaGu, thanks for your comment. As I have been absent from Wikipedia during 2012, I seem to have lost track about how to list cargo destinations. I will study that guideline now. Anyways, I can't really understand why the (in my opinion properly sourced) statement "AeroLogic operates cargo flights on behalf of Lufthansa Cargo to Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles Houston and Toronto" would not be allowed for destination listings. Best regards--FoxyOrange (talk) 17:08, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I can only see "AeroLogic serves" which has ambiguous meanings. Is it really a cargo flight? Why isn't it found on LH Cargo's schedule? Does it fly XXX-FRA nonstop? These are the things that we now ask to prevent the unlimited proliferation of listings that have plagued many airports' articles. HkCaGu (talk) 17:17, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Logo and house crest of Central African Airways

Am I correct in thinking you removed the CAA house crest and changed the logo color to black?

If so, the roundel was always Oxford Blue and the house crest was equal to the logo in importance on the aircraft (crest on nose and roundel on tail).

My knowledge is based on my being the draughtsman for the airline and I did the original livery drawings.

Tnuag (talk) 07:10, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Tnuag, this has already been discussed at Talk:Central African Airways. Please refer to Wikipedia:Verifiability with the policy that "even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it." I was unsure about the actual color of the logo. There are differently colored versions, which is why I chose to use the (neutral) black-amd-white one. If indeed the official logo was Oxford Blue, then the file can be changed/reverted accordingly, as long as it is backed by a reliable source (the same applies for the alleged importance of the house crest). I have no doubt that you are kind of an expert about Central African Airways, which I appreciate very much. Please note, though, that by Wikipedia standards, your personal knowledge is not sufficient. Best regards.--FoxyOrange (talk) 08:11, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reference would be Central African Airways drawing 11-00-00025, however I have decided to abandon Wikipedia and intend to close my account Tnuag (talk) 04:52, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Lufthansa Flight 649

On 4 September 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lufthansa Flight 649, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Joseph P. Kennedy II was among the 187 hostages of a hijacked Lufthansa Jumbo Jet? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lufthansa Flight 649. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 4 September 2013 (UTC)