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A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
Also, I'm very happy you're an admin. I wish I could be as patient and helpful as you are. Now go clean the house: mother is coming. Drmies (talk) 16:46, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
LOL thanks, but ... I hardly do any admin stuff at all! I keep getting all redfaced at WT:RfA when people talk about admins who do not do their share of logged actions. (Other than rescuing stuff like Tiddles from oblivion, I think I mainly use my mop to quietly shitcan awful stuff before anybody sees it.) And I don't dare close AfDs, of course. Say hi from me to your mom :-) Yngvadottir (talk) 17:03, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
... although I've been kind of surprised by the mistakes needing fixing on the Main Page. Yngvadottir (talk) 14:23, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Seems like we were both trying to explain at the same time - but I'm not very fast at typing on my iPad! SagaciousPhil - Chat 19:38, 1 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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pictures of students

Pratham currently has the library-pic, and the yoga-pic. Are there any restrictions about uploading pictures of recognizable-individual-humans, without their explicit permission? We might have to wait a bit before we break this new heartbreaking news to him.  :-)   Glad he came back to talk, without needing to be blocked. There is yet hope. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 19:26, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is a guideline, but for group shots at some distance like those, it's more honored in the breach than the observance. More to the point, I fear he may not have taken those himself, either; I keep expecting some image maven to find originals. Since no one has, I'm ignoring them in hopes he did take them. If that makes any sense. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:36, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, can you translate this from Spanish?♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:25, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not the best person to do that; Spanish is one of the languages I futz my way through, and it's a Christian article. Ping me again if you can't find anyone else. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:32, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Howz about Loyada from German wiki?♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:36, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. That has more on the variant names and etymology; some referenced info on recent political history with regards to the border crossing; and an unreferenced account of an atrocity. I can add the first and second to the article, but not right now - bedtime draws near. I'm not sure of the advisability of adding the third; I would hunt for sources but Google News Archive has quit working for me (they have apparently discovered the URL hack; for some reason they don't want people actually using their archive search). Yngvadottir (talk) 20:57, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wonderful, thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:36, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Art

Tell me what is the meaning of this |upright=0.9| thing that everybody so generously messing around with everywhere on the pictures? Don't get it. What is this? If you put them on the pictures, they became uneven, and take all different sizes, while using only thumb or a special pix, then they are same size, are alike. Just look how the pictures look like in the Art nouveau article, for exampl the first 3. Looks terribly uneven and silly to me. Some editor said= Same images sizes using "upright", which allows user preferences too. And made editwar of it. What does mean "allows user preferences "? What is the meaning of uprighting everything? Can't see any point in using it. Hafspajen (talk) 16:11, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(You do realise I am a technical incompetent, right?) I have no idea whatsoever about the 0.9. The upright thing I believe I do understand: it shrinks the picture down when it is a picture in portrait mode because it would otherwise display in "thumb" as overly large, since the software looks at the width to define the size. For example, the pic at Ulrich Mescheder looks a bit large to me. Other than that: the problem with defining pixel sizes is that someone may be using a cellphone to view the page or otherwise have very limited screen space, or more commonly, they may have screen size defined in their browser settings so that if the pic were just left at "thumb" or "thumb" plus "upright" it would display for them larger than the defined size, so for that reader the defined size has the opposite of the effect the editor intended. (That will be what people mean by "allows user preferences"). I'm not sure you realise what a wide range of screen widths and settings readers have: you dislike unbalanced galleries, but I often notice that those on your user pages, for example, display either balanced or unbalanced depending on whether I'm on my desktop (modern wide-format monitor, with windows set at varying widths so I can see stuff out of the corner of my eye or copy from one window to another) or my laptop (old-style screen width). I sometimes use the galleries with borders, as in Märkisches Museum, because those allow absolute definition of image width, but from using the laptop I've learnt to keep the overall width of the gallery relatively narrow, to avoid users on laptops and older monitors having to scroll to see the whole gallery. I agree, at Art Nouveau the differing picture widths look awkward, but if the pics actually are different widths, it's better to leave that alone except possibly for the top image, because people on different set-ups may be seeing the page quite differently. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:39, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • This may not seems like an intelligent question, but - why? I mean why can't Wikipedia do those stuff that it look good or the same everywhere? And yes, I use full screen, and I loathe those little things people carry everywhere. But what can you se on them anyway? Saw the Märkisches Museum galleries. Those don't give you a uniform picture size in the gallery, some are biggger, some smaller, gives a kind of restless feeling about it, I think. Why should it be so much trouble, I imagine that some programing chap would be able to fix picture sizes and galleries to match all devices... no? Hafspajen (talk) 09:24, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't know; I have to remind you, I'm a technical incompetent '-) But undoubtedly one factor is the variety of aspect ratios (if that's the word - ratios between the horizontal and the vertical) of screens for computers/notebooks, even if we exclude smartphones (which I also would be inclined to do - that's a whole different display environment, so small that things have to be stacked to be visible). Another is that people with poor eyesight have to be allowed to magnify their screen displays; that's an advantage of computers, not a disadvantage. Also, as those Märkisches Museum pics demonstrate, pictures actually come in a wide variety of ratios. What I like about the framed galleries is that they let me make them all roughly the same size and make a balanced gallery: the usual kind of gallery often has them very different sizes, some really small and surrounded by a lot of frame space, and is a crap-shoot as to whether the reader sees a balanced gallery or not (I agree with you in most cases that that's desirable.) Whether a picture display format can be programmed that overcomes most of those problems - I dunno. You'd have to ask the computing mavens. But if you try shrinking and then expanding your window, you'll see the appearance of most picture-heavy articles change quite a lot. At least with the framed galleries, the basic look stays the same, which is why I use it for articles like that one that have several galleries illustrating different sections of text. Yngvadottir (talk) 13:25, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you a technical incompetent I'm much much worse. Don't You have some computing mavens buddies around Wikipedia that you know about ? Hafspajen (talk) 13:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Heh, don't put yourself down. Actually I do, but either they don't work in user-interface design or they wouldn't want me to out them. And Kumioko is fed up and not programming here any more. Ask at Drmies' talk page; there's a wider variety of talkpage stalkers there. Feel free to link to this section, but I suspect the first thing they'll do is snicker at me trying to get my mind around tech '-) Yngvadottir (talk) 14:02, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm only moderately front-end competentent (someone compentent in front-end would say completely incompentent), but I can tell you what I do know about the gallery format. First and formost, the hight/width ration is always conserved. This seems like a no-brainer. Different images have (obviously) different hight/width ratios. What the gallery does, is fit all images in a box of identical size, that is, shrink and/or expand the image so that either it fills its width, or it fills its height (minus a padding). With images of different ratios, this means that if they all fill the with, their heights will vary. I'm not sure what a better approach would be; maybe allow some variation in width if it would make the height fill "better". Lastly, I'm not at all sure about how galleries are printed on a mobile display, which may be dependent on which skin, mobile or desktop, is applied. I could make some mock ups, where you can say if it's gotten better or worse, and if we settle on better propse that to the wider community. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 15:06, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Nice work

The Article Rescue Barnstar
for your work in finding more sources about Gregory Hodge. Nicely done.
WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:34, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Heh, thanks! I haven't !voted at the AfD yet because I'm hoping I can find more. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:36, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I doubt you need to. The source you have already found are sufficient for me to have changed my own opinion. I'd withdraw the nomination altogether, but at least one other user has already weighed in. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:18, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, and I've just voted after finding the Heritage Foundation singled him out for a chapter. I had a feeling there was coverage like that out there somewhere. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:48, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice work that! Neonchameleon (talk) 01:12, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Any chance of scanning the whole book to DJVU? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 23:02, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not familiar with DJVU, but someone else has put pdfs of all or most of it on Commons. Yngvadottir (talk) 23:10, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Link? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 23:13, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
File:Bramshill, its history and architecture (by Sir William H. Cope).pdf Yngvadottir (talk) 23:23, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

When pigs fly.

Adynaton and List of idioms of improbability .. Same thing? .. And it was one of the few aricles LI created, but it got deleted. Never (word). It got deleted, but the same thing is here now, actually in two different articles, too, Adynaton and List of idioms of improbability. I remember I had some good ones in this, and a very good ref. Can you find that reference? i can't find that anywhere. Aren 't deleted articles somwhere ... still available? Hafspajen (talk) 11:44, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not enough of a philosopher to know whether those are actually the same :-) I suspect not but that the examples should be kept in the list article as far as possible. I can see your deleted article on Never (word). In its final version, it had the following listed as references:
  • Canetti Elias Die gerettete Zunge. - Die Fackel im Ohr. - Das Augenspiel, München, Carl Hanser Verlag, 1995, ISBN 3-446-18062-1.
  • Canetti Elias The Tongue Set Free. Remembrance of a European Childhood, translated by Joachim Neugroschel, in The Memoirs of Elias Canetti, New York, Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 1999, ISBN 0-374-19950-7
Is either of those what you want? If not, more when I get home from work - have to pack up the laptop now. Yngvadottir (talk) 14:17, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't see a website except for Wikisource and Wiktionary, so I've gone ahead and undeleted and userfied it: you'll find it at User:Hafspajen/Never (word), complete with history, so you can look through and see if there was a source you added and then removed again. Let me know when you're finished looking (you may want to save a copy off-wiki) and I'll delete it again so nobody gets annoyed. OK? Yngvadottir (talk) 15:39, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Gingerbread house

You are invited to edit the new article Gingerbread house. We hope for a Christmas DYK Hafspajen (talk) 12:15, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not a Christmas observer, but I will see what I can do :-) We really didn't have an article on that??? Yngvadottir (talk) 16:06, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, we didn't. Or maybe in the "old" times. We had a redirect, and a short&lousy section in gingerbread man or gingerbread, I don't remember any more. The redirect was from... 2004? Look down on the history page. One of those early merginionist's work. Hafspajen (talk) 01:22, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Of gingerbread men and gingerbread houses, saints and queens and aged folks


Looks like it is a conection between the tale and the house. "The first gingerbread man is credited to the court of Queen Elizabeth I, who favored important visitors...with charming gingerbread likenesses of themselves..." So it was not the house..? Sagaciousphil‎; who like Orlando: A Biography lived through the centuries would probably know, since she was about 20 when living at the court of Queen Elizabeth I, (I am just joking, but has anybody read Orlando of Wirginia Woolf?)... Hafspajen (talk) 11:53, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I did, long ago :-) I am not sure whether any of the gingerbread man material is relevant; it may be that they are part of the same tradition in some countries, though. And I didn't look at the sources, including the one about Queen Elizabeth I. I did briefly check out the bishop/hermit (to make sure we weren't confusing him with the Pope of the same name who retired to the same exact area of France), and he probably deserves his own article. His introduction of gingerbread needs better sourcing, I think. Other than that, I don't know, it's a cute topic and I'm really sorry I can't use Google news archive search to find more material about it but Google has apparently decided to withdraw that or only give it to favoured people or something. Anyway, thanks for the sweet pic, and glad to be able to help a little :-) Yngvadottir (talk) 21:58, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, he probably deserves his own article. the fFrench has one called Grégoire de Nicopolis. Don't know how to source more... thanks for your help, has to run (got to go...) Se you soon. Hafspajen (talk) 21:56, 9 December 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Aha, yes they do! And he has or had a local confraternity dedicated to his spice cake/gingerbread (source archived in footnote) :-) Yngvadottir (talk) 03:16, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for helping me edit the article on Nikolai B. Kopnin!

Thank you for helping me edit the article on Nikolai B. Kopnin! I hope it works now - I shall await the review.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hkopnina (talkcontribs) 16:22, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

More on gingerbread houses

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Gingerbread in the market
Happy Saint Lucy's Day!


Hi Yngvadottir and Eric, I'm intending to nominate Gingerbread house for DYK this morning. As both of you have been working on it, I wonder if you can let me know if you can access the food time line (ref #2 [1]). I've tried it quite a few times in both Safari and Chrome and can't get it to open. Hafspajen can still access it and pasted a copy on my talk page. I also stuck a Project template for Food and drink on the article talk but it seems to have included bizarre categories that I can't get rid of. Can either of you offer any advice, please? it seemed easier just to pick one talk page to post this message on SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:06, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think I've found a pdf copy of it that I've substituted. SagaciousPhil - Chat 11:51, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That food timeline link works fine for me. Eric Corbett 13:20, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Eric, must be something my computer - and iPad - took a dislike to! On a different topic - have you time to pop over to Pitfour estate? Mega, mega thanks for your help already! SagaciousPhil - Chat 13:30, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Presumably the review has started now? Eric Corbett 13:37, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes! I'm trying to work out the best way to address the comment about naming the Lairds - the suggestion of putting James Ferguson, third laird etc in each time. I think it might effect the reading fluency and perhaps become a little monotonous; especially when the first three are all James (although the second is easier as he's Lord Pitfour) and the next three are all George? The reviewer is very complimentary about all your hard work ! SagaciousPhil - Chat 13:46, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi both and any interested talkpage stalkers: I've done a little more copyediting and tweaking, but again I haven't looked at the refs. I had internet problems yesterday and although this is my "weekend" and the internet seems to have been fixed, I have a very trying day today involving the vet's office. Letting folks know. Yngvadottir (talk) 15:13, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Lucia bun, made with saffron.
  • The article is now a good article, well done SagaciousPhil and Eric. About the catch for the house, se, one can read on this pic= above used: 294 kg flour, 92 kg margarine, 100,4 kg sugar, 66,3 liter Golden syrup, 2,2 kilo cinamon, 2,2 kilo cloves 2,2 kilo ginger and 3,7 kilo baking powder .. I mean this house is big, but it is not the largest house in the world, so the cath is maybe not quite correct. But what about usind this? For "the year's biggest gingerbread house" in Stockholm, displayed 2009, there was used up to be built: 294 kg flour, 92 kg margarine, 100,4 kg sugar, 66,3 liter Golden syrup, 2,2 kilo cinamon, 2,2 kilo cloves 2,2 kilo ginger and 3,7 kilo baking powder ... Well, using pouds and so... Hafspajen (talk) 10:03, 11 December 2013 (UTC).[reply]

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Just curious

Do you speak Icelandic (very hard language to pronounce) or are you just from MN? Or am I totally off?(Lihaas (talk) 23:04, 12 December 2013 (UTC)).[reply]

See my user page for the answer to a slightly different question :-) Yngvadottir (talk) 05:24, 13 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
what part>?(Lihaas (talk) 08:37, 13 December 2013 (UTC)).`[reply]
I deliberately use "read" Babel boxes rather than the usual "contribute in", because speaking and grammatical writing are both far harder than reading (plus my education didn't have as heavy an oral emphasis in many languages as is now common), but I've been known to attempt speech in most of those listed. As far as Icelandic goes, it's not the phonetics that's hard, really. Sorry to be coy! Yngvadottir (talk) 12:52, 13 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A reply to your helpful comment

Regarding my question about this proposed page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Marvin_Megee

Hello! Thank you so much for the information that you gave me, and for the help. I appreciate it.

Of the 14 references, 5 are from TV station reports that aired on TV and then the investigative stories were published online. I cited those stories.

All are from stations that I used in the references are national (US) affiliates: KSHB is a national NBC affiliate

KCTV5 is a national CBS affiliate

KMBC and KTRE are a national ABC affiliate

(NBC, CBS, and ABC are considered the “big three” television networks, and all of the affiliates I referenced also have Wikipedia pages, so I could go back and connect to those pages if needed.)

One of those television references is in another state (Texas, KTRE), and the others are all out of another city, Kansas City which is the metropolitan area of 2 million people spanning the MO-KS border.

Of the other references which are from newspapers, 2 are from papers in other cities (reference #s 4, 7), and two are references to state-level information (reference #s 3, 5). Of the 14 references, only 3 are from a newspaper local to where the Mayor is located.

As a note, the Mayor Marvin Megee is also listed on the page of the City of Greenwood: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwood,_Missouri


With that background about the references, can the page be accepted? Thank you for your help. I really do appreciate it.

Michelle