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Precision Manuals Development Group

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Completing on behalf of an IP editor, whose rationale was posted on the talk page and is reproduced verbatim below. I note for the record that the previous debates (July 2008 and Sept 2013) both ended in No Consensus results. On the merits, I have no opinion. UltraExactZZ ^Said~ Did 13:41, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My rationale: After deleting the unreliable source (AVsim), and removing another which only had passing coverage (Salon), this article is left with only what I would consider to be TWO RS's - PC Pilot (though it itself doesn't have an article despite being the largest PC air simulation circulation), and the WSJ. Doesn't pass WP:GNG in my view. 75.185.34.253 (talk) 11:17, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) • Gene93k (talk) 02:23, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak delete. Two sources -- [1] and [2], both not having the company as the focus. The coverage in the first one is good to supplement GNG and second provides a mention. I can't find any extra coverage. And I don't see how this yet passes WP:GNG/WP:CORP with multiple reliable independent in-depth sources. Most of the reliable sources review their games including awards [3], but notability is WP:NOTINHERITED. Last AfD had basically 1 participant and first AfD mostly presented sources for products' reviews rather than for the company itself. (While I personally feel many companies should have additional notability criteria if their products are highly reviewed/acclaimed, this is currently not in any guidelines.) — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 11:33, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - While the company may not have been the primary subject of reliable sources, its products have. Like the Kalypso Media AFD, I think it's better that readers are served with a list of their products rather than a blank. - hahnch e n 21:18, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously, that's the best you can do for significant coverage? Fully 98% of those links are from ONE source, while another is an online store. That doesn't establish notability in my book. 75.185.34.253 (talk) 19:58, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Umm... Sorry Google says otherwise, it's notable enough for me and WP:GNG is not even a problem for me.AldNon^Ucallin?☎ 02:55, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 01:42, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Sourcing is extremely weak, and there is no mainstream coverage. Thousands of Ghits from mostly one source doesn't pass GNG in my book. 65.24.59.12 (talk) 02:18, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]