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Nick Kellogg help?

I saw you created the DJ Cooper page. I've never created an article before and started with Nick Kellogg. I've only done edits here and there for the past few months, trying to clean up things involving the Ohio University Bobcats. Kind of a learn as I go thing. Didnt know if you could take a look at it and possibly improve it. I do see you do a great job updating everywhere. Any help or tips would be appreciated. Thanks a bunch! The article is currently under review for submission. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Nick_Kellogg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlekelv (talk • contribs) 18:08, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Down to two CPOYs for 2011

You up for a run at the last two CPOYs for 2011 (all 2012 and 2013 are complete)? Ken Horton of Central Connecticut State and Mike Smith of East Tennessee are the last two and both are still active in Europe so they should be pretty easy. I'll take one if you do. Rikster2 (talk) 21:08, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I think that guy creating all the NBA stubs will keep everyone in infoboxes for awhile. Glad to have the articles but yowza! Rikster2 (talk) 21:09, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I will take Ken Horton. Yeah I'm glad someone is deciding to do a halfway decent attempt at NBA stubs, but good god that is going to require a ton of backlog cleanup. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:58, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DragoLink08 again?

Special:Contributions/DarkStone06. New editor, on a color-changing tear. Looks like it to me but it's been a while. Thoughts? JohnInDC (talk) 03:47, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I decided, yes. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/DragoLink08. JohnInDC (talk) 04:05, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh. Jrcla2 (talk) 03:26, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In typical fashion he quit editing as soon as I notified him of the SSI. I think I caught and reverted most of his edits. Lucky it was at 75 and not 775! JohnInDC (talk) 03:28, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that actually. "I've been spotted!" Fuck him (excuse the brashness). Jrcla2 (talk) 03:29, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DUI arrests

If you insist on this being included in the Casey Sanders article, then go (re)insert it on Phil Ford's page. Sauce for the goose .... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.246.96.152 (talk) 00:30, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not re-inserting anything on Phil Ford's page. (a) I didn't put it there originally. (b) WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid argument. (c) I don't edit based on anyone telling me what to do, let alone anonymous IPs. Jrcla2 (talk) 03:26, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't say that you inserted it there; but if that argument holds water over there it should here also. Wikipedia: an Encyclopedia that ANYONE can edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.246.96.152 (talk) 05:04, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately. Jrcla2 (talk) 05:10, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Like Jweiss11 (talk) 07:49, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Williams Ephs men's basketball players

Hey, thanks for dropping me a line. Unfortunately, I'm back into academic work at the moment and don't have any time for serious editing. If they're still in the unfinished queue by the time summer rolls around, I'd be happy to take a look at them and get a change of pace from baseball work. Thanks very much for thinking of me. Kithira (talk) 16:37, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. One way or another they'll eventually get done! Jrcla2 (talk) 16:47, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wisconsin Badgers men's basketball

Hello, I moved the templetes for the Western Conference to the Big Nine on accident. I am unable to switch it back so now on 1911–12 and 1913–14 there is no longer the conference standings. Can you help? Again, I am sorry about this. Redmen44 (talk) 09:01, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

NCAA basketball team navboxes

I'll leave them all as redlinks then. The reason I was linking them was the red link suggested there was no collective info on a particular teams coaching tree, when in fact the template starts the process. There's nothing to suggest an editor can begin a more extensive article (like North Carolina, Kentucky, or UCLA, but I'm guessing it's going to be a long time before that occurs for many of the lesser known teams. Plus I thought it confusing to have the team navbox be redlinked, yet have another navbox with the coaching information below it......Or show no information on a particular college coaching history on the team or year page, but find the coaching template on a coaches page....Pvmoutside (talk) 23:31, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Brad Robinson (basketball)

Hi Jrcla2, and thanks for reverting my bad edit to Brad Robinson (basketball). I had been attempting to apply WP:DATERANGE (between <date1> and <date2>) but didn't read the article carefully enough. I'm grateful to you for correcting this for me.

With regard to the other changes you reverted, I presume you have no objection to the application of WP:NBSP to "215 pounds". I concede that my change of "sophomore" to "second" is more debatable, but I did this on the MOS principle: "Avoid words and phrases that give the impression of straining for formality, that are unnecessarily regional, or that are not widely accepted." The word "sophomore" is undoubtedly a regional term, not widely understood outside North America, and "second year" is universally understood. I cannot understand why we should deliberately make the article more difficult for a worldwide readership to understand. Does "sophomore" carry extra connotations which are not conveyed by "second"? I've never come across the word "sophomore" before, so am unsure as to such nuances. On the other hand, one could argue that the Brad Robinson (basketball) article is so unlikely to be of interest to anyone outside North America that the use of local dialect such as this may be excusable. What do you think? Sincerely — Hebrides (talk) 12:01, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have no objection to adding WP:NBSP to 215 pounds (I didn't see that edit or else I'd have left it in...I'll go in and re-insert it myself). The thing about "sophomore" versus "second year" is that since the article's subject is an American basketball player who is notable for his American collegiate career, the context of sophomore is appropriately used. It doesn't exactly fall under WP:ENGVAR, which is more about "color" versus "colour," but the umbrella concept is the same. If Brad Robinson ended up playing professionally in another country outside of the United States, I'd have less of an objection because he would then be more of a universal person of interest. Like you mentioned, he will only really be of interest/known to people in North America, but probably more specifically the United States, so I think sophomore should be left in. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:18, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What is the purpose?

Why do you think Talk:Michigan Wolverines men's gymnastics should be a redirect to itself? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:10, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't, it was a mistake. I tagged it with {{WikiProject Gymnastics}}. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:11, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Oklahoma City Stars men's basketball for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Oklahoma City Stars men's basketball is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oklahoma City Stars men's basketball until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Corkythehornetfan (Talk) 01:29, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion about "Template:Cop"

There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2014_February_15#Template:Cop about the second nomination of Template:Cop in which you may be interested. --Jax 0677 (talk) 06:24, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2000/1000 update

Looking like Augustine Rubit won't hit 2000 points. He'd have to average 25 ppg the rest of the way and the team is so bad they'll have no postseason after their conference tourney. However, Alex Francis of Bryant will probably hit 2000 points this weekend, and he has 922 rebounds as well. He has a very good shot at it. Rikster2 (talk) 14:19, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up. Jrcla2 (talk) 16:18, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Francis has 984 rebounds going into the NEC tourney. Two games should do it, if they can get them. Also, the CPOYs are starting to roll in. I'm trying to anticipate a few to knock the queue down. Rikster2 (talk) 21:58, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is the busy time of year. All anons like to hop in to "break the news" about half-rumors as to who earned what. Lots to do, as always. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:50, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion about "Template:Wprk"

There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2014_February_8#Template:wprk about the nomination of Template:wprk in which you may be interested. --Jax 0677 (talk) 09:19, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you keep notifying me about these things? Jrcla2 (talk) 17:57, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Notable college achievements

Uh, which awards were you referring to? I was only evening out the awards. (T23tran (talk) 13:27, 25 February 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Being NCAA Division I's leading scorer, for one. Being all-conference for another. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:28, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why is it only in a handful of player's infoboxes? How come there's no NCAA Division I assists laders? (T23tran (talk) 13:32, 25 February 2014 (UTC))[reply]

....Because only a handful of players did that, why else? And if your rationale for completely inappropriate mass removal of information is if every single statistical leader isn't in every player's infobox, then nobody can have it! you have a lot to learn about this website. Also you're incorrectly formatting honors such as consensus All-Americans, years of NBA All-Star Games, etc. Leave basketball players' infoboxes alone, you clearly do not know the consensus on what is to be included and how it is to be formatted. You're undoing literally hundreds of hours (or more) of man hours' worth of editing by myself and other college basketball/NBA editors who have (a) already gained consensus on what is to be included, and (b) been around the proverbial block on the basketball-related realms of Wikipedia and have much more familiarity with standards than you. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:38, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and not to belabor the point, but Avery Johnson has his NCAA season assists as an infobox highlight, and he's literally the first player I checked. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:39, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It all looks pretty sloppy if you ask me but you're right. Who came up with these standards and where do I go to learn them? Also, how do I voice my opinion on what these standards should be?(T23tran (talk) 13:43, 25 February 2014 (UTC))[reply]

WT:NBA. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:50, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

AC Green

There's a new topic I posted on WT:NBA on AC green I would want your input on. (T23tran (talk) 19:06, 25 February 2014 (UTC))[reply]

NBA Rising Star

Hey, I left a new topic on the NBA talk page that I would love your opinion on. Sorry I don't know how to give you the direct link. (T23tran (talk) 15:37, 27 February 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Discussion about "Template:Wpcm"

There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2014_February_25#Template:Wpcm about the nomination of Template:Wpcm in which you may be interested.

Saint vs. St.

I was looking at the division 1 basketball templates, and some of them have the full spelling saint...., others have st......I'm guessing we should be consistent. Should we use Saint or St. and change those already created accordingly????....Pvmoutside (talk) 02:39, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No they shouldn't all be consistent. Some schools use Saint, some use St. It has nothing to do with consistency and everything to do with athletics WP:COMMONNAME. Jrcla2 (talk) 03:23, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Year-by-year teams

I placed a discussion thread on the College basketball talk page you may be interested in commenting on. It surrounds men's basketball play prior to the 1960's/70's and what the project should title men's teams prior to women's programs beginning....My guess is is will be a pain to change them over and cause some controversy, but I thought we should discuss now rather than later....Pvmoutside (talk) 14:17, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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TSN AA

It's up on their site. Rikster2 (talk) 17:11, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'll add them now. Jrcla2 (talk) 17:17, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I can't make major updates today. MWC and Southland have named POY too. Rikster2 (talk) 18:06, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thanks, I'll do them soon as well. Jrcla2 (talk) 18:09, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

		The NBA WikiProject Barnstar
		Thank you for all of your edits on basketball articles connected to the NBA. You have greatly improved many of these articles.

Robert4565 (talk) 19:16, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Robert, it is appreciated. Jrcla2 (talk) 19:43, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

re:Can you PP an article please?

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UVA's "Tennessee Turnaround"

Hey, man; saw you kicked that off, and, uhh, I think that's definitely part of their lore now. I see a handful of articles, not just one, that refer to it as the "Tennessee Turnaround", and literally hundreds that mention it in some fashion; their SG Joe Harris going over to Coach Tony Bennett's house, and how they went from the gutter to ACC Regular Season and Tournament champs for the first time since 1976. I'd say that is now as much a part of their lore as the Chaminade Upset. Just because only a handful of news articles actually refer to it by that term doesn't mean it's not notable, and yeah, I'd say it'll mean more to the Cavaliers than putting Valpraiso one more game into the NCAA tournament. Can we slap it back up?

It's really just recentism; no way is it "as much a part of their lore as their Chaminade upset" – not even close. That Chaminade upset is considered one of the greatest upsets in college basketball history, has had thousands of articles written about it, a documentary made about it, and is the entire reason the Maui Invitational Tournament exists. If you want to write something up on the "Tennessee Turnaround" as a few sources have called it, that would be appropriate as a standalone section in 2013–14 Virginia Cavaliers men's basketball team, not as a separate article. Jrcla2 (talk) 12:49, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I dunno, man- yeah, I understand that about Maui and such, and while you might have a thing with recentism, I think if you polled Wahoos, they might disagree about where it stands in THEIR lore now; which is the operative thing, IMHO. 'specially if they make a deep run in the tourney, but, then, we'll see. If you argument is recentism, then I can buy it for now. If it's the spot in UVA lore, I'd hafta respectfully disagree. Ks64q2 (talk) 01:00, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]