User talk:Murry1975

Deleting text

Hi Murray1975,

I noticed that you have removed content from Laura Whitmore's page. Please could you explain why you did this? I am contacting you from Laura's Management and Laura would like this reverted please. Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by MoneyManagementUK (talk • contribs) 16:35, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Deleting text

Hi Murray1975,

I noticed that you have deleted the changes to the Tower Records page. I understand and appreciate your position, however how can we update with documented sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Music.rflynn (talk • contribs) 14:36, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Removing my post

You removed my posts twice. Here is American government list of Lt Colonels in the Air Force selected 2012. Please look at page 3. If you are looking for reliable source here is the link.

http://www.afpc.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-121205-036.pdf

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salahito (talk • contribs) 00:41, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

There are a couple of reasons not to include him. One he is nowhere cited as Druze (should be eas enough), and the big number two he is not notable to have an article. Wikipedia is not a collection of random lists and facts. Its an encyclopedia, and these lists have a form. Maybe in a few years time he will have an article but not now and unfortunately we dont guess at these things. Murry1975 (talk) 19:04, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

How many Lebanese, Druze, doctor and Lt colonels in USAF do you know? If Samir Kuntar the infamous is notable! You should keep this list for people like him. Thank You.

Thanks for removing Samir Kuntar.

Gaelic football

Hello Murry1975,

I see you have removed my insert on the Gaelic football wiki to the Gaelic football rankings on the grounds that they are unofficial with no source. Nevertheless, I clearly stated that the rankings were unofficial and in the Gaelic football rankings page, the method used to calculate the rankings, in addition to the source of all information, are clearly described.

If you have any other concerns about linking a Gaelic football page to a unofficial Gaelic football ranking page, please let me know so that I can address them. In the meantime, if you can undo your delete, it would be appreciated.

(Mistakenly posted this in your archives last week - first time using the talk function!)

Cheers. Tinahinse 11:46, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

OVERLINK

Hi there MURRY, AL from Portugal "here",

i'll never understand that approach by WP (to me the only thing that should not be linked even once would be "England", and common words as "hand", "nose" or "eating", etc), but i have to respect it.

Happy week, cheers --AL (talk) 19:01, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Removing my links

Hello You removed my links the other day. I am sorry if you thought I was spamming. I was just inserting an external link to the page to a website that I thought was very relevant to the subject matter of page - ie: the page is about rivers and the website is also pertaining to rivers and seems to be earnestly researched and hardly inappropriate. I'm sorry that I put this information out in quick succession on a few pages and it obviously appeared to be spam to you! All I can say to you is that I acted in good faith and had no malicious or devious intention. I hope you could reverse the removals. Birdhillbilly (talk) 20:13, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Birdhillbilly, first of all welcome to wikipedia. I understand you acted in good faith but I am not going to reverse my removals on the basis that the generic site you listed adds nothing that isnt contained in the articles themselves. Sorry about that, but if you have a more specific site you know that could be added in my opinion. I see I wasnt the only one who removed your links, thats usually an indicator that links are not meant to be added by some guideline on here. Murry1975 (talk) 12:40, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Murry, while the link to http://www.dicklerfitz.com/ probably shouldn't be added to all of the individual river pages, I still think it would be a benefit if it were added to the Rivers of Ireland page. Within that page there are rivers listed that have no length details (let alone flow rate details!). Important rivers like the Inny, Boyle, Laune, Kings, Brosna have no lengths given! Some rivers have lengths given but with no references or sources - Moy, Liffey, Slaney. The river Suck has a wrong length given with no reference and an external link to data from an 1846 source. Other pages like the river Lee has a reference that leads nowhere. Also I think a link http://www.dicklerfitz.com/lakes/ would be of benefit to the List of loughs of Ireland as it supplies extra info: perimeter lengths, lake volumes etc. Birdhillbilly (talk) 20:21, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Murry. OK I give up - House Robots rule!Birdhillbilly (talk) 22:47, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Nothing has changed since you last added them, why did you re-add them? Murry1975 (talk) 22:51, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Murry. I left a talk message above (20:21, 20 May 2014 (UTC)) stating why I might insert links to those pages. I was hoping you would set me straight on the matter. - as you can see I am no wizard at this! - However, since I got no reply in over a week, I decided to insert the links as mentioned in the above message. Why did you not reply to the above talk message? Now all I have for my troubles are warnings about being blocked and websites being blacklisted! You do understand that the only agenda I have is the furthering of knowledge regarding our waterways, which I am passionate about! Birdhillbilly (talk) 08:26, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to disappoint you about me not getting back, I pop on and off this some days alot some days very little (or even lately not at all). The point of the matter is that the link is to a site that doesnt under scrutiny pass WP:RS or fails WP:ELNO. Also as far as I can make out you might be adding it for its own benefit. Murry1975 (talk) 09:02, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Murry. Ok - we'll agree to differ! Anyway, I won't post links to the offending site again!79.97.237.150 (talk) 09:04, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Couple of edits regarding Ireland and its territories

Demographics of atheism. I've been 'bold' and reverted your edit. I gave a reason why in the edit comment thing: we need to ensure the readers aren't confused, as the statistics specifically concern the Republic of Ireland alone, and not the whole of the island, which is also called Ireland. Also, the link pointed to a disambiguation page, rather than the page on Religion in the Republic of Ireland.

As for the Counties of Ireland, as six counties are a part of the United Kingdom, this article must also belong as part of that category. That the other counties are there too, the reverse argument could be made regarding the Republic of Ireland versus Ireland (the island): 26 of the counties don't belong to Ireland (the Republic). I'd be interested to hear if you have any suggestions, if you still protest at the idea of including the article in both the Republic and UK categories. One possible compromise might be to exclude Northern Ireland from the article all together. There is an article already dedicated to Counties of Northern Ireland anyway, I believe. We could then rename the article Counties of the Republic of Ireland.

I apologise, as I'm not aware of the previous conversation you've suggested. That's not to say it didn't happen - I'm just not aware of it!

I've enrolled here recently, so I'm not sure this will show up. I've not logged in. --75.176.181.60 (talk) 03:30, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi. You've undone my edits now three times. The first time, you offered rationale in your edit comment. I answered that by explaining here (and in my edit comment when I undid your edit) that there is clear ambiguity in this table: the territory which uses the name of the island (Republic of Ireland) is not the same as the territory which is the whole island. The table strongly suggested (before my edit) that the whole island follows the statistics listed. That is not the case. The statistics very definitely apply solely to the territory of the Republic of Ireland alone.

The wikilink also directed to a disambiguation page, rather than to the page relating to Religion in the Republic of Ireland.

The Manual of Style/Ireland-related articles page is, apparently, a set of guidelines. Here is what Wikipedia says about guidelines:

Guidelines are sets of best practices that are supported by consensus. Editors should attempt to follow guidelines, though they are best treated with common sense, and occasional exceptions may apply.

So these guidelines suggest:

Use "Ireland" for the state except where the island of Ireland or Northern Ireland is being discussed in the same context. In such circumstances use "Republic of Ireland"

So I've inadvertently followed the guidelines anyway: Northern Ireland is being discussed in the same context (as a part of the United Kingdom in this case).

I've also attempted to follow the Wikipedia guidelines for editing - a "bold --> discuss --> edit -->" cycle. However, so far, you've not followed that process yourself.

This will be my last edit to the article for a while. Of course, you will probably undo my edit again, but I have more important things to waste my time on! Following guidelines here on dispute resolution, I am taking a break from this specific article. Perhaps this will give you time to reflect and perhaps help me come to some kind of solution which we both feel will aid the Wikipedia site, and which we will both agree to.

I feel the article was misleading to readers, which is why I made the edit to begin with. Hopefully you can see your way to replying here in the next day or two? I will come back to the article at some point in the next few days probably. If my edits have been undone again, I will follow the guidelines and request an administrator to help out. Thanks.

--75.176.181.60 (talk) 00:56, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

The ONLY mention of Ireland on that page is the state, so NI isnt being mentioned at all, yet alone in the same context, its a table of states so NI wouldnt be on it anyhow. Also sign in while editing.

I also notice you seem to edit UK instead of Britain/Great Britain in articles, because its the states name, dito for Ireland so we use that. If you cant see the double standard of your edits. Now if you wish we could bring this up at IMOS. Murry1975 (talk) 06:06, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for replying. It's a table of states, yes - so we would need to be unambiguous, to let the readers know that it's the state of Ireland specifically that the table is referring to. Many people I have met in my life who are confused because they think the whole of the island is a single country. The Wikipedia exists to enlighten people on facts, so we should surely endeavour to bring to them the information that there are two sovereign states currently in Ireland. Again, I think common sense should prevail here, as the guidelines suggest. Northern Ireland is mentioned in the context of the UK. Its statistics (although I haven't checked) would include Northern Ireland.

I have no idea what you think my other edits regarding the UK and the name of an island have to do with this. If anything, I'm being completely consistent with those edits by referring to a specific political entity, rather than an island. For example, Ireland & Britain are islands; the Republic of Ireland and the UK are sovereign states.

Anyway, have we any common ground here regarding this dispute? Perhaps we could move on from there. --75.176.181.60 (talk) 04:59, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Ireland is the name of the state. If you want to misinform people of its name go somewhere else, the guideline exist to help, you edits exist to push your point of view. There is no mention of NI in the artilce, and its a list of states, if you have not constructive to add stop adding it. The name of the specific polical entity is Ireland, if you have a problem with that, as you seem to have, contact http://www.oireachtas.ie and ask them to change it. Murry1975 (talk) 12:18, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Dear Murry1975 as you will discover I will not be found guilty of sock puppetry .......As you are well aware DDI are not a right wing organisation, and you know we have majority of left wing people in the party. I myself done quite a bit of free work for Sinn Fein in the past and SF have a lot of supporters in DDI and we transferred a lot of votes to you in the local elections. So please drop this attack on us as we agree on a huge amount of issues. We have a common enemies...namely the government and the banks...lets beat them and then sort out our differences if we even have any, Martin Byrne Martinbyrne6 (talk) 13:51, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Martin, I was not attacking anyone, and I dont see myself as having selected enemies, I am a Trot, I make no bones of this, but when I am on here I try to use a level head and edit from neutral prospective. Yeah there are times when I read an article and think "minority hating nationalist is more appropriate", but I step back. I believe in society working for society, and to an extent wikipedia is such, its a society of editors using their varing abilities to contribute to an encyclopedia for society, it has rules, guidelines and formal processes like all societies. If you want to contribute please feel free to follow these, but like all societies should, break these and the society will remove you from it. Its not a democracy on here and several other things. Murry1975 (talk) 14:15, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Emmy Nominations : )

Hi - You have corrected Emmy nominations for PBS special several times and I am at a loss as to why. Is it the language? Please help so I can add the nominations. Thank you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Londra#Biography — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.153.223.253 (talk) 16:05, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Sockpuppet

Hi, Ages ago I got a message that I think was from you about an investigation about me. Someone falsely accused me of using 2 accounts there has been no result so am removing it of my talk page. WARNER one --9999 (talk) 13:59, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes the result was you we were warned to log in. Murry1975 (talk) 14:03, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

I never got told anything WARNER one --9999 (talk) 20:27, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

June 2014 (Warning: Editing while logged out) on your talkpage by King of Hearts. Murry1975 (talk) 20:30, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Simon Palmer

Hi Murry1975, I have just removed reference to my former membership of the National Union of Journalists. I am not longer a member and was told membership would affect my job prospects. As I currently applying for positions I needed the reference removed urgently. Apologies for doing this myself, but I could not get an independent third party to do it quickly enough. Regards, Simon.

That is a perfectly acceptible reason to edit your page, removing out of date/incorrect information that may have a negitive effect on yourself. BTW best of luck. Murry1975 (talk) 21:59, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Apology

I previously used to be WARNER one and have since reincarnated myself to be more friendly, useful, cooperative, less nationalistic and all together a better editor. I have identified you as one of the editors that I have wronged in the past which is why I urge you not to consider my previous actions in the future as I am completely different. I would like to be friends so we can hopefully collaborate in the future. If you understandably still don't want to colabarte and/or see my new side then that is 100% fine. Just please leave me a note here so I know for the future. THANKYOU! --Warner REBORN (talk) 17:27, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

National Day of Commemoration

Just pointing out that edits that go against the WP:IMOS does not allow you to WP:EDITWAR. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 06:44, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Bourne out of frustation CBW. Thanks for the polite reminder. Murry1975 (talk) 08:34, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

I'd wait until the three days are up. If it continues after that then full might be done. CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 08:45, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Deleted text from Leixlip: Notable people

Hi, I've restored Richard Guinness and Matt Goff to Leixlip's notable people.

1. Richard Guinness has been on the page for over a year. Why remove it now?

2. Matt Goff has his own page, and a local bridge is named after him. Why remove him but retain the likes of Enda Murphy who, to be fair, isn't going to have any landmarks named after them anytime soon?

Anyway, that's the reasoning. If you disagree, please answer questions posed rather than escalating to an edit-war.

Thanks.

Richard Guinness doesnt have an article (the standard for notability) and Matt Goff wasnt linked to an article, and BTW Byrne plays for Arsenal Ladies, not the PL team. Guinness should go. Murry1975 (talk) 19:17, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Agreed on Byrne; it was a pre-existing error that I did not catch. However, rather than delete the Matt Goff reference immediately it would have been polite of you to consult with me, or at least do a quick Google search of him. You were too quick to edit IMHO.

I agree that a Wikipedia page is a standard for notability, but this metric is imperfect. Wikipedia is not perfect. This is acutely true in the case of 18th century businessmen. Some pages are not yet written. Richard founded Guinness with his brother Arthur and, seeing as he lived on Main Street in Leixlip, likely played a role in the choice of Main St in Leixlip as the location of the original brewery. His page does not exist yet, but he is a notable person in Leixlip's history. I think you're playing your cards too quickly here... again.

I have no reason to "consult" with you, the evidence needs to be added by you. As for Richard Guinness, his page doesnt exist, so the idea that he is notable doesnt follow, your logic of not written yet,and imperfect metric, doesnt show how by consensus it should remain. Murry1975 (talk) 13:21, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

change to Ireland MOS

I agree that it isn't necessary to remind users that these MOS pages only apply to the English language wikipedia nevertheless I think it is useful for new editors to include this reminder. The justification for many of the policies on this page is that the policies only apply to the English language wikipedia and thus the policies are tilted to suit English language speakers. This is different from the practice in some parts of the Republic of Ireland where many documents try to be more even-handed between English and Irish speakers. I think it might even be useful to put a bannner accross the page confirming that:

This Manual of Style page only applies to the English Language Wikipedia.
For the Manual of Style of the Irish Language Wikipedia see Vicipéid:Lámhleabhar Stíle.

filceolaire (talk) 18:10, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

No, it is unneeded, this is En wiki, the page deals with Irish names and place names quite well, there is no crossover. The titles are designed for EL speakers, and editors of EN wiki, no one-else, not Irish wiki or Dutch wiki. Murry1975 (talk) 19:32, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Commonwealth of Ireland

I am just wondering why you undid the edits on the Irish Free State article and on the Dominion article. The republic of Ireland was the successor of the Commonwealth of Ireland. The Commonwealth of Ireland was when the constitution of Ireland was established and had loyalty to the crown.

Elevatorrailfan (talk) 18:12, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Never existed. Murry1975 (talk) 18:28, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

You have 240 deleted edits, and 228 live edits, and I notice you have created many deleted articles, maybe you should consider WP:AFC as a route for these. Murry1975 (talk) 18:33, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

I see @Elevatorrailfan:, that you have not tried to put forward any reason to keep the article, that alone speaks volumes. Murry1975 (talk) 11:35, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Never heard of this commonwealth either. Mabuska ^(talk) 12:54, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

for that SPI. Sorry I didn't have time to work on it. Dougweller (talk) 13:01, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

PCB Piezotroincs

I saw that you deleted my content from the PCB Piezotronics page for not having sources. Except I had about 4 or 5 sources in there so i'm not sure why it was deleted. Explain please?