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Ali Kemal Meram

This book can not be used as a source because resources are not given in the book! "Ali Kemal Meram, Padişah Anaları, Öz Yayınları, 1977"--Kamuran Ötükenli (talk) 09:32, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why ? In the link of google books we can show only Helen. But in this book author wrote anası (Handan Sultan) takma adlı Yunanlı Helen.Takabeg (talk) 12:06, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Handan Sultan

She was not a descendant of Mahidevrans Family, nore she was a Muslima of birth.

Handan is well known as Helena a Greek slave girl who came in the Harem.

In the Ottoman Defter (list) all is well document, in the Topkapi Arsiv.

If you want please ask them or any living Member of the Ottoman Dynasty.


Mahidevran is no Ancestress of any living Members of the Ottoman Dynasty.

Since this series Muhtesem yüzyil, Mahidevran Fans claimed such false statemants.

Handan Sultan

Sorry, this is not vandalizm, but Handan Sultan had no connection to Circassian or Mahidevran.

I saw many Articles here about woman of the ottoman Dynasty, since Muhtesem yüzyil series always made false statemants by this so called Mahidevran Fans.

In the Ottoman Harem at this Time there was no circassian, or any own cousin of a Ottoman Prince.

There is nor source who claimed before this series that Handan was a Circassian and a relative to Mahidevran.

She was a Greek and her name was Helena when she enter in the Harem.

This storys of some Valide sultanas are a joke...only written by one person...

Handan Sultan was a native greek girl named Helena and she came into the harem as all the other girls as slave.

Best regards