Talk:War in Afghanistan (2001–2021)

How could the Northern Alliance invade their own country?

The article posits that Afghanistan was invaded. Technically the foreign powers chose to intervene on behalf of the insurgent party of a very, very long civil war. Labeling the 2001 action as a foreign invasion is non-factual and leading to a biased conclusion about intervening in an existing situation.

ANSWER: First, the Northern Alliance would not have succeeded in re-conquering the North, nor would the south been taken by President Karzai and Gul Agha Sherzai, had there been no overwhelming US air support, Special Forces, CIA operatives who bought the loyalty of various commanders who defected, a time-honoured Afghan tradition. For more on this see Sarah Chayes: the Punishment of Virtue. Second, what is "factual" is the motivation for the invasion of Afghanistan, which was due to the inability of the Taliban government to hand over Osama Bin Laden to US authorities, as outlined by President Bush in which he said: "The Taliban must act and act immediately. They will hand over the terrorists, or they will share in their fate." (http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/post911/attacks/afghanistan/metimes_taliban_defies_bush.htm) Third, if it was not an invasion, then wouldn't have been a steadily increasing occupying force of ISAF soldiers and the growing control over the country. --Finally, I am not against ISAF in Afghanistan, in fact I served there myself, but let's call it what it was: an invasion and occupation.

Typos

First paragraph, last sentence "andwas" appears as one word.

Under Casualties and Losses on right hand side "but reports suggest a higher number compared to coalition forces" may read better.

"2001: Overthrow of the Taliban" - boming should be bombing

Canada not listed as a belligerent

Canada was a belligerent.

Declaration of war

There was no "Declaration of war". That title should be removed.Royalcourtier (talk) 05:00, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Legality

The section on "Legal basis for war" starts with a reference to an American law. That is the wrong starting point. The legality of military operations depends on international, not domestic law. US law may purport to render an invasion legal, but that has no effect whatsoever on international law. In this case international law is clear, the invasion was not legal. There are American jurists who argue otherwise, however they are in the minority.Royalcourtier (talk) 05:07, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Canadian JTF2 commandos were in Afghanistan in Oct 2001

Is there any reason why Canada isn't listed among the 2001 invading countries? Canadian troops sustained heavy losses fighting in this war so it would be nice, not to mention respectful, for Canada to be given the recognition it deserves by being properly listed among belligerents. NorthernFactoid (talk) 05:39, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

It's probably because a stupid troll kept removing Canada and no-one has fixed this yet. I've just fixed it. Nick-D (talk) 06:36, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, mate. NorthernFactoid (talk) 00:32, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

For some reason France is also not listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.96.203.23 (talk) 21:13, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

I think France did not join until 2004. Thundermaker (talk) 22:38, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Removed Edit made by Nick-D, also noted your hateful comments regarding myself. Canadian government did not formally join the war effort in Afghanistan until early 2002, they did send a tiny special forces squad in secret in 2001. However that is not the same.--Empire of War (talk) 11:24, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello Collingwood26. Nick-D (talk) 09:56, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes my thoughts exactly. Very similar pattern of edits, Collingwood26 gets blocked in Nov 2013 and Empire of War appears in Dec 2013. Not to mention the Canada issue... Anotherclown (talk) 10:18, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

No idea what you're talking about, also don't try to change the subject, unless you have a reference to prove otherwise.--Empire of War (talk) 10:22, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Britians retraction from the war

As of 2014, the United Kingdom will be ending military operations in Afghanistan, just putting that out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.193.10.88 (talk) 09:32, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

War over?

So is Operation Enduring Freedom actually over? Someone could change the heading to (2001-2014). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.238.89.3 (talk) 05:45, 27 October 2014 (UTC)