Talk:Elvis Presley
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Homicide Hypothesis
As far as I could find, information on Magnum Opus Enterprises does not say whether or not it is a self-publishing company. Such companies are not necessarily unreliable sources. Also, if you exclude it on these grounds then you have to also exclude the Patrick Lacy reference as Author House is a self-publishing company. And there should be separate sections for alternative theories or a separate section for alternative theories in general. The "Questions over cause of death" section is certainly not balanced and includes only 1 viewpoint--typical, shameful, and unacceptable Wikipedia practice. Even the information on the accidental OD theory by Thompson and Cole was deleted--Trouveur de faits (talk) 13:39, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
- Once again: "Neutral" does not mean that every position or theory is given equal weight; rather, positions are weighed in rough proportion to supporting evidence. There is no real controversy about the cause of Presley's death—only controversial claims advanced for the purpose of selling sensationalist books to gullible readers. Did drug use play a role in his deteriorating health, ultimately contributing to his death? Yes. Did he die of a drug overdose? According to separate autopsies by different coroners, no. It doesn't matter how many books or articles say otherwise when the only people claiming that Presley died of an overdose (or a homicide, or any cause other than cardiac arrest) are people who did not examine his body. Pstoller (talk) 05:06, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
- Regarding Magnum Opus Enterprises: the company has apparently published only one book, by an author who has only written one book and who has no credentials qualifying him as an authority on his subject matter apart from being a devoted Elvis fan. By comparison, AuthorHouse might as well be Random House. However, it would not substantively affect the article to remove the Lacy reference. Pstoller (talk) 20:08, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Suicide Supposition
Whether or not Elvis committed suicide is neither here nor there. The fact is that DAvid Stanley, his stepbrother said that it was suicide. I know this kind of information won't be included because you're a bunch of jackasses.--Trouveur de faits (talk) 10:57, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- And what's the proof of it that Elvis' death was a suicide and the quote from David Stanley? David Stanley's words are not proof of anything. All we have as far as Elvis' death goes is what was stated what was going on that his death was a result of either a possible accidental drug overdose or of heart problems. Also it would be nicer if you addressed people in a respective format than that display of ugliness you left behind in your post here. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 12:53, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- "This kind of information" is baseless hearsay contradicted by evidence. Why would you think it should be included here? This is Wikipedia, not the National Enquirer. Whether or not Presley committed suicide is what's relevant, not whether someone alleged that he did. Pstoller (talk) 17:46, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- A rich new source of material on Elvis' life and death has recently been published by Oxford University Press: "Elvis Presley: A Southern Life" by Joel Williamson (2014). Excerpts have been published in the last few days by salon.com: http://www.salon.com/2014/11/16/the_elvis_presley_coverup_what_america_didnt_hear_about_the_death_of_the_king/ Santamoly (talk) 19:23, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- Although the book is new, the information in it doesn't seem to be. From what I've seen, there's a lot of focus on Presley's "scandalous behavior" that's been published elsewhere; and while Williamson is a noted scholar, I'm not sure what, if any, new sources he has for this old scuttlebutt. He cites the usual "suspect suspects," including Goldman, Finstad, Nash, Whitmer, Dundy, Bova, et al. In any case, the book does not suggest that Presley committed suicide. Pstoller (talk) 13:16, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Ginger who?
'That afternoon, Ginger Alden discovered him unresponsive on his bathroom floor...'
- There is no mention of Ginger Alden up to this point. You need to explain who she was and what was her significance. Valetude (talk) 00:06, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Have you read; "Presley and Linda Thompson split in November, and he took up with a new girlfriend, Ginger Alden.[248] He proposed to Alden and gave her an engagement ring two months later, though several of his friends later claimed that he had no serious intention of marrying again."? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 03:12, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Apologies, Occult. Careless of me. Valetude (talk) 10:28, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
- Have you read; "Presley and Linda Thompson split in November, and he took up with a new girlfriend, Ginger Alden.[248] He proposed to Alden and gave her an engagement ring two months later, though several of his friends later claimed that he had no serious intention of marrying again."? OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 03:12, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Is this a reliable source?
An editor just added this text today, sourced to "Alan Hanson" who has self-published one book on Elvis and who runs a Elvis history blog. Should this be considered a reliable source? There is an accompanying link to a USA Today article which appears to be written by a journalist who was googling for Elvis content and came up with Hanson's blog. I'm concerned this is degrading the sourcing of the article. --Laser brain (talk) 14:37, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
- It is uncertain whether we should add about the disputes related to the concert on here. I have removed it. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 15:10, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
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birthplace east Tupelo, MS
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