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I rated this article as a low importance C-class article. A classic American sandwich, beyond that not very important to American cuisine. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 03:22, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well in the wider world "American cuisine" is not very important full stop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.199.146 (talk) 18:10, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Loosemeat v. Sloppy Joe

The article almost makes it sound like a loosemeat sandwich (I'm familiar with it being called a looseburger or "loosie" in Michigan) is the same as a sloppy joe. It isn't. A looseburger is identical to a hamburger except that the meat isn't packed into a patty, it's shredded like taco meat.

I'm moving the references out of the section "variations of the term" and into their own section called "variants." If someone who never had a sloppy joe asked for a looseburger or loosemeat in the midwest, they'd get that hamburger-like sandwich and not a sloppy joe.

Jamesfett (talk) 03:03, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm really not convinced about this. At a minimum, I think more needs to be said in the article about the similarities and differences between loose meat and Sloppy Joes. I had never heard of a loose meat sandwich before, but I'm pretty sure, growing up in Minnesota, that Maid-Rite was associated with Sloppy Joes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vikslen (talk • contribs) 13:23, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Difference

How is this different from a hamburger? --sin-man 05:07, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

it's not solid, and it's got lots of sauce? 66.56.145.43 22:38, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lochbradan 18:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds to me like a "Sloppy Joe" would be described by your average "Brit" as a "Savoury Mince" sandwich - I can see where the "sloppy" comes from... Paul-b4 09:07, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The difference between a Sloppy Joe sandwich and a hamburger is pretty much what user 66.56.145.43 described. The meat is not solid or compact and there is a tomato based sauce that keeps it together. That and adding things like lettuce or tomatoes isnt common at all. However, this is based off of the commercial version of the Sloppy Joe, what I am trying to do is to make the distinguish between the commercial version and the version offered in New Jersey. If you are asking about a comparison to that one, it is slightly more complicated then not solid and lots of sauce.

scaraghe

ketchup

Ketchup never touched my mom's sloppy joe sauce. She was an excellent Italian cook, so her Joe sauce was a slightly sweeter variation of her pasta sauce. Looking at recipes on the net, I see that most extant recipes do call for a quantity of ketchup, but there are some recipes without. I for one, don't think "flavored with ketchup" is a definitive statement, as it's presented here. Maybe "often flavored with ketchup?"Bustter (talk) 04:33, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Sloppy Joe" a pullover?

Does anyone have a source for this? I live in the UK and I've never heard the phrase "Sloppy Joe" used to describe an item of clothing. Is it purely a London thing, or an Aussie thing, or...? 217.155.20.163 15:52, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm also from the UK and am pretty definite that's not a phrase that'd be used here. A costume website I came across (http://www.sillyjokes.co.uk/party/guides/cowboy-party.html) claims that cowboys call their t-shirts 'Sloppy Joes', which sounds a bit more plausible. It does seem to be an Australian phrase (http://www.geocities.com/buddychai/Misc/AussieDictionary2.html) though. --Acamon 13:25, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if this helps any, but I was looking in my English-Japanese dictionary hoping to find a Japanese description of the sandwich, but instead it describes a women's loose-fitting, heavy sweater which was popular in the 1940s. The dictionary is Genius Eiwa Jiten, 3rd edition, published by Daishukan Shoten. 218.182.11.94 09:39, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right! [1] Good find! Ex-Nintendo Employee 15:17, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I live in Australia and I've never heard the term Sloppy Joe used for anything. A sweater or any sort of pullover is called a jumper. Of course I haven't met all 20 million of us, so who knows. Seems suspect, though.Schaddm 06:51, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

where in Oz do you live? it might just be a NSW thing or possibly even just a country thing, who can say, but i know that its used where i live. WookMuff 03:24, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My mum uses "jumper" to refer to knitted wool pullovers, and "sloppy joe" to refer to a pullover made from anything else. I think the term is falling out of popular usage though. Dazcha 08:52, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I lived in Sydney all my life. 'Sloppy joe' was indeed the standard term for a machine-knit, fleecy-lined, long-sleeved jumper in the 70s and 80s. The term does seem to be falling out of common usage though. Morandir (talk) 01:52, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I live in Scotland and have called a jersey/pullover/white Tshirt a sloppy joe ever since I can remember. It's use as such has diminished in recent years so it is perhaps now dying as a description of these types of clothing. No reference to it's origin were ever passed on to me by my parents so I had always taken it for granted that it was a British idiom.

Yes a Sloppy Joe is an Austalian term for pullover, normally loose and often fleecy lined. Refence the Australian Macquarie Dictionary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reidjohnson (talk • contribs) 05:37, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing as there is so much information about the Sloppy Joe Pullover, why doesnt someone just make a new page for it? I can add a "See Sloppy Joe Pullover" to the top to help out but I don't really know enough information about the pullover, so if someone wants to do that, it would be great. scaraghe —Preceding comment was added at 18:15, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

When I was a kid in London in the late 50s early 60s .. my parents used the term 'sloppy Joe' to mean what we later called a T-Shirt .. it was common usage then and remained so until the later 60s (66/67) when the term T-Shirt came into fashion. --IsarSteve (talk) 13:27, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

Um, the picture of the Sloppy Joe and potato chips could really be any sandwich for all you can tell, as you can't see what's between the buns. The picture really oughta be replaced. ekedolphin 08:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And the bun looks like it has been heated with a blow torch.Schaddm 06:54, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is a really bad picture that doesn't really help with a description of what the sandwich should look like. I'll try to fix that as soon as I can. scaraghe —Preceding comment was added at 17:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jersey Sloppy Joe

As a native New Jersian, I'm happy to see our Sloppy Joe represented here. However, I've never heard of one with turkey -- as far as I know they're always made with some kind of mammal, and usually bovine at that (either roast beef, corned beef, tongue, or other cow-meat). Can anyone settle this?

Menelaos 19:17, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it's really nice to see it referenced here, because normally people will just look at you strangely. Livingston, represent! Aaaaanyway, I am pretty sure that I have had Jersey Sloppy Joes with turkey on them, but turkey would not usually be the only meat on there. --DavidK93 13:35, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TVP

Is it really necessary to say that the meat can be replaced with textured vegetable protein? This is true of any and every sandwich, and continues to appear on their articles by the dozen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.122.63.142 (talk) 19:44, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree! Besides, there are many more choices than TVP. Stuartea (talk) 12:04, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Photo

Need good photo of sloppy joe on a bun (preferably falling out of the bun sloppily). Can someone take one? Badagnani (talk) 23:00, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article name

Even though they weren’t named after any specific Joe, it shouldn’t be sloppy Joes? Or Sloppy Joes? —Wiki Wikardo 04:23, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed Advert

Removed advert for a commercial variant of this "food". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.199.146 (talk) 18:12, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Urban Legend

Isn't there a urban legend that popped up that said it got its name from a butcher who served his cheating wife and her love to their families? Now i know wikipedia doesn't allow speculation but isn't it at least worth noting? Yami (talk) 23:06, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hot or cold?

Article isn't clear if it's served hot or cold, could someone clarify please?

I've never heard of anyone serving a cold sloppy joe. With all the oil in it, I'd imagine it'd be pretty nasty. Boneyard90 (talk) 00:58, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just ragù alla bolognese, without the basil.

Looks like it’s just ragù alla bolognese, but without the basil. Or chili con carne without the chilies/peppers. It would be interesting to note the commonalities and differences in the article (and related articles), and put it in the ragout dishes category.

Yes, it pretty much is, although usually with a slightly higher meat-to-sauce ratio. 167.206.122.66 (talk) 23:22, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Untidy Joseph?

This looks a helluva lot like vandalism. 'Untidy Joseph' indeed! I'm going to remove it, if no-one objects. Morandir (talk) 01:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC) OK, I've checked further and it seems that many Americans believe that this is the case. (Of course, it's not!). I'm still going to remove it. Morandir (talk) 01:58, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References & Variations

I'm thinking we need to see some references for the section US variations on the term - even if the source is simply a restaurant menu or a locally published cookbook, it'd be better than nothing. Boneyard90 (talk) 17:33, 7 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree! jmcw (talk) 11:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Broken Link

The first external link is broken. I am new here so I am not making changes myself. I want to do a little self education before editing. So, can the person who created the link or someone who knows the proper URL please fix it.

Landslide2000 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Landslide2000 (talk • contribs) 21:01, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bolognese Sandwich

So it's literally just Bolognese on bread? This should be noted, because a lot of people will already know about bolognese (and bread!) and otherwise it looks like this is a unique creation. IainUK talk 00:31, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My first thought was: What's Bolognese? But then I looked it up. Apparently, what you (and I suppose others) call "Bolognese", I would call "spaghetti sauce" or "meat sauce". So, sloppy joe sauce and bolognese appear to be pretty similar, in that the main ingredients are ground beef and tomatoes. I would say they're different in that sloppy joe meat is more ground up (perhaps it uses cheaper hamburger), and the spices that are used are very different. Also, sloppy joe sauce probably has a higher proportion of meat versus tomato sauce. As for the bread, I've never had a sloppy je on anything but a hamburger bun. So calling a sloppy joe "Bolognese on bread" is like calling lasagna "ketchup and cottage cheese on crackers". A little "yes", but more "no".Boneyard90 (talk) 14:13, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]