Talk:Myrmidons

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Surely this is not an accurate quote "to lord it over the Myrmidons". Can somebody fix it?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.21.164.77 (talk) 23:41, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The quotation is accurate -- it's from Samuel Butler's 1898 translation -- it just doesn't mean anything like the claim. As all that the quotation means is that Achilles leads the Myrmidons, a point already made in the lede, I have removed it.Czrisher (talk) 22:36, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Modern Myrmidons

The Myrmidon Club now has its own article on a separate page. Would anyone object if the description of it on this page were abbreviated? 45ossington 15:07, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Real Or Mythical

The first section says the Myrmidons were an ancient greek tribe, the second section talks of the mythical Myrmidons. Is there any evidence (not counting Homer) that they actually existed? 94.196.133.30 (talk) 01:30, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please add back deleted referenced text:

"Achiles was described by Leo the Deacon (born ca. 950) not as Hellene, but as Schytian, while according to the Byzantine author John Malalas (c. 491 – 578), his army was made up of a tribe previously known as Myrmidons and later as Bulgars.^[1]^[2]"


References


^ Ekonomou, Andrew (2007). Byzantine Rome and the Greek Popes. UK: Lexington Books. p. 123. Retrieved 14 September 2015.

^ Jeffreys, Elizabeth; Croke, Brian. Studies in John Malalas. Australian Association for Byzantine Studies, Department of Modern Greek, University of Sydney,. p. 206. Retrieved 14 September 2015.{{cite book}}:  CS1 maint: extra punctuation (link)

What exactly does it add to the article to say, without any indication of their incorrectness, that some medieval writers made up ludicrous identifications of Achilles' and the Myrmidons' ethnicity? Ekonomou himself, in your first citation, says, "In an effort to minimize the valor of pagan heroes, and eventually to extinguish their memory altogether, some Christian writers resorted to intentional distortion." Why should we be reporting such intentional distortions without labeling them as such? Deor (talk) 06:02, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Leo the Deacon was a Byzantine historian. John Malalas was a Greek chronicler.

It adds different view on the topic from historians and chroniclers of early ages.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoctosecond (talk • contribs) 01:33, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Ekonomou, Andrew (2007). Byzantine Rome and the Greek Popes. UK: Lexington Books. p. 123. Retrieved 14 September 2015.

[2] Jeffreys, Elizabeth; Croke, Brian. Studies in John Malalas. Australian Association for Byzantine Studies, Department of Modern Greek, University of Sydney,. p. 206. Retrieved 14 September 2015.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: extra punctuation (link)

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