User talk:Woodensuperman/Archive 10

No cast in navboxes?

Where exactly was this rule discussed? ViperSnake151  Talk  16:45, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

This is a very long-standing consensus, I'll see if I can find it... --Rob Sinden (talk) 16:52, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Here you go. --Rob Sinden (talk) 16:56, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Remember Millennium miniseries?

I'm trying to expand on it, but they are all so attached to the three original films. Some reviews even suggest that the they were just the original cuts (with the exception of the first film which was expanded as a bonus). I made a discussion in WP:TV to get this figured out. Lucia Black (talk) 01:44, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Is good reads a reliable source in terms of ISBN and publisher? Lucia Black (talk) 03:09, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure. I don't think it is for notability, but it's probably okay for that. Maybe Amazon might be a good source for that too. --Rob Sinden (talk) 08:52, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

never mind. I noticed that they have an edit button. So most likely unreliable. However barns and noble has first editions and they are not editable. Lucia Black (talk) 17:36, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Programming templates

Wondering what justification you have for deleting international programming on Template:Seven Network programming, Template:Network Ten programming and Template:Nine Network programming. You stated "Not appropriate to include programming produced by/for other networks" without discussion or citing a reason. The template is designated/titled "Seven Network programming (current and upcoming)", etc, which unlike American networks, contains a mix of locally produced and internationally acquired programming. The template isn't for "Seven produced progams, Nine produced programs, Ten produced programs" - it demonstrates their schedule, much like on similar American articles - both cable and network. There are examples of foreign made programming in American templates I found. Could you please explain further? Thanks, -- Whats new?^(talk) 23:55, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, Wikipedia is not a TV guide. These templates do not exist to show every TV programme broadcast by a channel, which is a tangential connection (see WP:NAVBOX). If a broadcaster created a TV show, then this is something that ties them together, a defining characteristic. --Rob Sinden (talk) 08:48, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

I agree that WP:NOTTVGUIDE, however I'm not sure how the template originally was violates it. I don't see anything specific relating to this issue, however I'm not that invested that I want a lengthy debate about it. I would just say that some of the American templates similar to these Australian ones include foreign titles not produced/created by it (the titles just aren't seperated into domestic/foreign like the templates discussed here were). Feels like it could be US bias, that's the only reason I bring up the issue at all. Thanks for replying. -- Whats new?^(talk) 21:37, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I think it could well be a US bias. We don't show HBO or Showtime shows that are broadcast in the UK exclusively on Sky Atlantic in the {{Sky Atlantic}} template, etc, etc. --Rob Sinden (talk) 08:58, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Netflix original programs page

Thank you for all your help with the Netflix original programs page. I've been trying to do as much as I can, but obviously your input its much better and it has concise the website for the better, which I was trying to do but didn't know how to. Also when you have a chance the Originals from Amazon and Hulu need some TLC. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andres balbuena (talk • contribs) 17:50, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

@Andres Balbuena: Thanks Andreas - sorry, I missed this! I had just done the same kind of thing at List of original programs distributed by Hulu before I saw your message anyway! I think the problem with listing them as "former" and "current" is that it implies that a show is not available. If a show is removed, then the status could be marked as "no longer available", or "removed" or similar to make it more clear. --Rob Sinden (talk) 14:37, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

AN/I

As you probably expected, the report didn't really result in much. Carry on editing :) _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 14:19, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know! :) I was watching the discussion but didn't want to pour oil on the fire. --Rob Sinden (talk) 14:29, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Broadcaster for Next Class

Hey, I saw that you reverted an edit of mine. I added Netflix because they are the main broadcaster for Next Class. I know Family aired it first but the show is made by Netflix (as can be seen in the credits of the show stating that). Just wanted to let you know. Also, for Degrassi: The Next Generation, we listed Canada's and the U.S. broadcasters. It's the same case for Next Class.Joshie (New Horizons Await You) 17:09, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Just because Netflix have added a credit that it is a "Netflix Original" does not mean that they have produced the show. It seems to be purely a distribution deal. Please note per WP:TVINTL we only categorise shows by their original broadcaster, in this case Family. Also, see Template:Infobox television it says "Do not add foreign broadcasters here". --Rob Sinden (talk) 09:09, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

I've started a discussion at Talk:List of original programs distributed by Netflix#Degrassi: Next Class regarding its inclusion there, and the outcome should define how we categorise and deal with the article. --Rob Sinden (talk) 10:02, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

AN/I

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Robsinden regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. And I wasn't the one who submitted it; I only noticed that it was there and you hadn't been notified yet. I figured you might like to know. J^♯m (talk | contribs) 20:39, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

RfC

pls see Wikipedia talk:Categories, lists, and navigation templates#Banning articles from navigational aids -- Moxy (talk) 20:59, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Revenge of the Pink Panther

Hi Rob, care to share why you reverted my contribution on the films of The Pink Panther? MoxiM (talk) 23:18, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, WP:OR. Can you provide a source to back this up? --Rob Sinden (talk) 08:50, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. Well, I watched the movies and in the "Revenge of the Pink Panther" (shot in 1978) Herbert Lom again acts as Clouseau's former chief Dreyfus who dies/disintegrates in the 1976 movie "The Pink Panther strikes again". So, I would hazard that the events must have taken place beforehand. MoxiM (talk) 21:58, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Unfortunately, though you may be right, this is your own interpretation, and unless this has been discussed by a reliable source, cannot be admitted per WP:OR. --Rob Sinden (talk) 09:00, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

All right, no offence taken., although, it may have been helpful to anyone wanting to watch the series in sequence. Thanks for your time and trouble. MoxiM (talk) 22:03, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

I've found a couple of sources discussing the confusion in continuity this causes, but nothing concrete regarding the actual chronology [1][2] --Rob Sinden (talk) 08:55, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello.

Hey there. I have a question for you. So remember how you said we can't list "foreign" Networks in the info box? Well, what if the show is a split production show? Degrassi: TNG was a main Canadian show but also aired simultaneously in the US. So that's understandable for that show. But Degrassi: Next Class is not a Canadian show but a joint production between Netflix from the US and DHX Media (Family)in Canada. I was looking at other shows that possibly listed both Netflix and whatever network it's on in Canada or elsewhere. I found the show Between which is a joint production from a Canadian based company/City and Netflix, just like Degrassi: Next Class is with Netflix and DHX. They list the Canadian network and the US network (Netflix) since it's a split production. On those grounds, wouldn't that work for Degrassi: Next Class as well? So may I please have your opinion on this? Thank you. :)Joshie (New Horizons Await You) 20:11, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello, I'd go by the instructions at {{Infobox television}}, which says to include The original network(s) on which the show has appeared. Do not add foreign broadcasters here. Therefore, if two networks are involved in the production, it would imply that it is okay to add both, as they are not "foreign" broadcasters. --Rob Sinden (talk) 12:38, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Policy discussion in progress

There is a policy discussion in progress at the Manual of Style which affects the capitalization of "Smells Like Teen Spirit", a question in which you previously participated. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — LlywelynII 11:10, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

When redirecting templates make sure all articles using that template are updated

You redirected Template:Nebula Award Best Novel 1965–1980 etc. to Template:Nebula Award Best Novel - please make sure all the articles using the templates that now redirect there are updated properly (See: Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Nebula Award Best Novel 1965-1980 etc.) --Fixuture (talk) 21:11, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

•  Done I've fixed the double redirects. Sorry for overlooking this. --Rob Sinden (talk) 09:04, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

inre Draft:Pocket Gangsters

Care to assist in expansion and sourcing? Thanks. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 20:52, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Navbox Extreme wealth

Hello, my friend. You said it was too general, so, I narrowed the focus from Wealth to Extreme wealth. How about now?

Best,

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:19, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Anna - I still think it seems like an unnecessary grouping of articles to me - a navbox for its own sake, but I guess there's nothing really wrong with it. Maybe to name it as a collection of lists, like {{Lists of people by net worth}} might give it a bit more focus. --Rob Sinden (talk) 09:21, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Good advice. Ideally, if it could either have its focus on extreme wealth in general, that would be great. Another choice would be to zap the see also group and make it focus on entities, whether individuals, groups of individuals, organizations, etc. Do either of those strike you as okay? Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:51, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak: I like it. EllenCT (talk) 18:40, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, EllenCT! And I love your talk page "Socialism never...". Bloody fantastic! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:29, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

It's been a week with no objections. I'll move it to the mainspace. Cheers. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:30, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Talk:The Time is Not Yet Ripe

I invite you to ongoing RM discussion. George Ho (talk) 06:20, 29 March 2016 (UTC)